masterrig 1 #26 May 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteI wasn't trying to be ugly with him I guess, I read it wrong. I did a search of 'Latino gangs in the U.S.' and found a multitude of related news articles. I just picked the one I posted. Chuck Ah, I don't doubt for a second that the USa has a massive problem with Latino gangs and other gangs also. It does make me laugh though when some people criticise Pakistan for having a porous border which they have been unable to seal when the USA with all its technical and military might and funding is unable to do the same with their border with Mexico which should be arguably easier to seal. That said I feel sorry for you folk who live down south as from the outside the drug gangs look like they are causing a hell of a problem. Laredo, Texas for one. Yes, we do have a problem. About the only answer to me is, end the demand for dope. I'd really hate to see it legalized. Folks are tired of their homes being broken into and their land trashed with the illegal's junk. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #27 May 22, 2012 I was really surpeised when I searched the subject. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 May 22, 2012 Quote Yes, we do have a problem. About the only answer to me is, end the demand for dope. since that has failed utterly, maybe time to make the supply legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #29 May 22, 2012 Quote(which would be damn near impossible for a Pakistani who looks nothing like a Latino) Actually, Latinos can look very much like Pakistani/Afghans. My team sergeant in Afghanistan was of Mexican/Guatemalan descent. Even though he would wear a US uniform, and had on all US gear, the locals regularly came up to him and spoke Pashto. They thought he was my interpreter. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #30 May 22, 2012 QuoteQuote Yes, we do have a problem. About the only answer to me is, end the demand for dope. since that has failed utterly, maybe time to make the supply legal. That is one arguement I really don't care to get into but to me, it's bad enough we have booze. We all know that story! I think of the torn-up marriages and families, job losses and so-on with booze but then add dope to the equation seems like throwing gasoline on a fire. Maybe, I just don't understand the wonders of getting high and not having control of one's self. I lived through the sixties and never understood the big deal about dope back then. I just don't see any good in booze or dope. I learned the hard way about booze. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #31 May 22, 2012 Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=762PtpiBfy4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt-rzVMLkjY&feature=related But of course, it will take several terrorist attacks inside the US from Al Qaeda or some other radical groups before people will believe there's a problem. Thanks for posting, interesting but not overly convincing. These are the same guys who sent us to war because they claimed they had evidence of WMD in Iraq (and that 'evidence' was stacked up in comparison).When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 May 22, 2012 Lou Dobbs took us to war? Bush was criticized for ignoring a memo months before 911 that simply said that Al Qaeda was planning attacks on the U.S. Now we have many knowledgable people telling us that we need to secure the borders because Islamic radicals are infiltrating out country across our Southern Border and nobody takes it very seriously. You asked for more proof. If you research Michael Scheuer, you will discover he is very credible as he headed the Bin Laden task force for the CIA under the Clinton Presidency. If you won't take his word for it and you won't take the word of the Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committees on Terrorism what would it take to convince you? An actual terrorist attack? I sure hope not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #33 May 22, 2012 Gangs in America have been our biggest threat to national security for a very long time. iMHO Asian, Skinhead, Mexican, Black, Central American, etc. Are all threats, and terrorists of all religions. Obama has deported more folks than anyone lately. Now it's time to get tougher on the gangbangers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #34 May 22, 2012 In the past, gangs have largely targeted each other and not innocent people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #35 May 22, 2012 You need to get out more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #36 May 23, 2012 QuoteYou need to get out more... I get out plenty. Did you have a point or are you just bored from inactivity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #37 May 23, 2012 Yes, gang violence has a tremendous impact on communities and schools large and small, in urban areas and small towns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #38 May 23, 2012 Apparently, you missed "targeted". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #39 May 23, 2012 Google Thomas J Steiner, CHP. One example of thousands of innocent Americans that are affected by gang violence. And "targeted". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #40 May 23, 2012 I'd hardly consider a gang gunning down a Police Officer the same as targeting innocent civilians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #41 May 23, 2012 QuoteThey think that all this gang stuff is just in the ghettos and barrios. It goes much farther than that. Some of these gangs are pretty sophisticated. People need to get their heads out of the sand and toss the rose-colored glasses. Those irish and italians are pretty good at this organized crime stuff as well. They should be tossed out...all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #42 May 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteThey think that all this gang stuff is just in the ghettos and barrios. It goes much farther than that. Some of these gangs are pretty sophisticated. People need to get their heads out of the sand and toss the rose-colored glasses. Those irish and italians are pretty good at this organized crime stuff as well. They should be tossed out...all of them. You sound like you think we're picking on illegal aliens. How clean is your backyard in the frozen North? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #43 May 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThey think that all this gang stuff is just in the ghettos and barrios. It goes much farther than that. Some of these gangs are pretty sophisticated. People need to get their heads out of the sand and toss the rose-colored glasses. Those irish and italians are pretty good at this organized crime stuff as well. They should be tossed out...all of them. You sound like you think we're picking on illegal aliens. How clean is your backyard in the frozen North? Chuck I'd give up Chuck. These city boys have no idea what farmers and ranchers in Texas are going through with these illegals squatting on their property. Killing their livestock, trashing everything etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #44 May 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThey think that all this gang stuff is just in the ghettos and barrios. It goes much farther than that. Some of these gangs are pretty sophisticated. People need to get their heads out of the sand and toss the rose-colored glasses. Those irish and italians are pretty good at this organized crime stuff as well. They should be tossed out...all of them. You sound like you think we're picking on illegal aliens. How clean is your backyard in the frozen North? Chuck I'd give up Chuck. These city boys have no idea what farmers and ranchers in Texas are going through with these illegals squatting on their property. Killing their livestock, trashing everything etc. I guess, you're right. They aren't in their backyard so there's no problem. Besides, they're too blind to see anyhow. Thanks! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
