Why (some) Liberals Should Not Be Allowed to Teach

[rushmc 23]

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The student says that he can say what he wants.



“Not about him, you won’t,” says the teacher.



The teacher then tells the student – wrongly – that it is a criminal offense to say bad things about a president. “Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?”



The student says that it would violate First Amendment rights to jail someone for such sentiments. “You would have to say some pretty f’d up crap about him to be arrested,” says the student. “They cannot take away your right to have your opinion … They can’t take that away unless you threaten the president.”



Clearly, the student should be teaching the class, and the teacher should be reading the Constitution more often.



The school district classified the exchange – which is obviously just another case of a pro-Obama teacher shoveling her views down students’ throats – a “learning experience.” It isn’t. It’s political intimidation, and it’s just another example of how the American public school system has become an indoctrination tool for the left. This teacher should be suspended or fired forthwith, if only for incompetence.

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[quade 4]

Your link is busted.

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[rushmc 23]

Ya, even on the site

Thanks

Here is the same story different site

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/21/nc-teacher-captured-on-video-suggesting-student-could-be-arrested-for-obama/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Shotgun 1]

I had an anatomy/physiology teacher who refused to teach the chapter on evolution because it contradicted his religious beliefs. I don't know his political leanings, but I'm going to guess conservative.

We need teachers, and they can't all be perfect. Perhaps it is a learning experience for the students when the teacher is pretty obviously wrong.

[Andy9o8 2]

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I had an anatomy/physiology teacher who refused to teach the chapter on evolution because it contradicted his religious beliefs. I don't know his political leanings, but I'm going to guess conservative.

We need teachers, and they can't all be perfect. Perhaps it is a learning experience for the students when the teacher is pretty obviously wrong.

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Sheldon Cooper: I'm going to stay here in Texas, teaching evolution to creationists.
Mary: Watch your language, Sheldon. You know everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Sheldon Cooper: Evolution is not an opinion, it's a fact.
Mary: And that is your opinion.
Sheldon Cooper: [to the others] I forgive you. Let's go back.
[Leaves]
Mary: Don't tell me prayer doesn't work.

-Big Bang Theory

[davjohns 1]

Listened to the whole thing. Seemed to me that the student understood the subject better than the teacher. She said she was teaching social studieds. Her comments suggested a strong prejudice against Romney and she ended up having to make up things to support her position.

I will not say she should not be teaching because of her political views...the fact that she is a lousy teacher, however...

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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[rushmc 23]

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Listened to the whole thing. Seemed to me that the student understood the subject better than the teacher. She said she was teaching social studieds. Her comments suggested a strong prejudice against Romney and she ended up having to make up things to support her position.

I will not say she should not be teaching because of her political views...the fact that she is a lousy teacher, however...

You make a great point

She is a lousy teacher

Lousy teachers, of whatever political and religious beliefs should be fired if they do shit like this

But, unfortunately, they (teachers unions) circle the wagons and then use bargaining unit contracts to protect them.

This, in turn, emboldens them to do more crap like this. That crap being indoctrination instead of teaching.

Walker is in a fight over stuff just like this

That is why the recall vote in two weeks will have lasting repercussions across the country.

It is interesting to note, Walker has been ahead in most (if not all) of the polls I looked at last week. Also, the DNC has pulled all its money from the fight

A good one to watch the first week of June

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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Listened to the whole thing. Seemed to me that the student understood the subject better than the teacher. She said she was teaching social studieds. Her comments suggested a strong prejudice against Romney and she ended up having to make up things to support her position.

I will not say she should not be teaching because of her political views...the fact that she is a lousy teacher, however...

I was an elementary school kid when Nixon was elected president. On Inauguration Day, our teacher (a prissy, dour old crag) turned on the TV in the room so we could watch the swearing-in. When Nixon was announced-on to the platform, I yelled out, "Hail to the chef!" The old bat went "Get out!" and sent me down to the principal's office. (Guess what party she was.) When I got to his office and he asked me what I'd done (this time!) to get kicked out, I told him. Whereupon he rolled his eyes and told me to sit back and relax in a comfy chair in his office. (Guess what party he was.)

[DanG 1]

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I notice from the lack of outrage from the left that its approved of, if not openly encouraged.

Yes, in the exact same way you openly encourage torturing puppies and nuns.

- Dan G

[davjohns 1]

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Yes, in the exact same way you openly encourage torturing puppies and nuns.

They never proved I did those things and I was told the record was sealed!

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[rushmc 23]

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Yes, in the exact same way you openly encourage torturing puppies and nuns.

They never proved I did those things and I was told the record was sealed!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 226]

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I notice from the lack of outrage from the left that its approved of, if not openly encouraged.

Yes, in the exact same way you openly encourage torturing puppies and nuns.

I didn't think the topic of this thread was puppies and nuns.
Start one of those if you want, but seems to me there would be more outrage from the left about that, even the nuns, than there is here.

That says something.

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[DanG 1]

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I didn't think the topic of this thread was puppies and nuns.
Start one of those if you want, but seems to me there would be more outrage from the left about that, even the nuns, than there is here.

That says something.

You've missed the point. If you were truly outraged by puppy/nun torture, you would have started such a thread yourself. The fact that you haven't really says something.

- Dan G

[turtlespeed 226]

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I didn't think the topic of this thread was puppies and nuns.
Start one of those if you want, but seems to me there would be more outrage from the left about that, even the nuns, than there is here.

That says something.

You've missed the point. If you were truly outraged by puppy/nun torture, you would have started such a thread yourself. The fact that you haven't really says something.

so are you upset about this therre topic or not?
Discuss puppies and nuns in a different thread. Or start one and I might reply to it. Don't throw out a straw man and defend it here. It's useless.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[lawrocket 3]

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I notice from the lack of outrage from the left

The bar must be set pretty low for outrage. I'm not outraged. This isn't outrageous to me. This is just an asshole move by a teacher. There are plenty of asshole teachers on all political sides.

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[Coreece 190]

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We need teachers, and they can't all be perfect.

We will never have a "perfect" teacher as long as this country is divided...even not, perfection is just an illusion created by insecure egotists suffering from narcissistic PD who are incapable of self reflection - symptoms include projection and judgmental shit talking to relieve the pain of addressing such a debilitating disorder.

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[billvon 3,119]

>We will never have a "perfect" teacher as long as this country is divided.

We would not have perfect teachers even if everyone was living in harmony. There's no such thing as a perfect teachers, although there are some pretty good ones out there.

[Coreece 190]

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We would not have perfect teachers even if everyone was living in harmony.

Maybe Watson could step in and teach a bureaucratically per-approved digital home schooling curriculum, where students only gather together for extra curricular social activities.

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[kawisixer01 0]

our education system is so screwed up. We wonder why this country doesn't have the innovation and free thinking that it used to. A teacher should never use their position of power and influence to coerce young vulnerable minds to their own personal views. A professional educator, in my opinion, should present ALL sides of an argument or issue. They should then teach the students to research and use their own thinking to come to their own individual point of view, and defend it with facts and why they came to the conclusion they did. Teach students to seek out information, be inquisitive, and QUESTION EVERYTHING! We're doing nothing but creating armies of lockstep drones who regurgitate the same old shit.
In WI some of the stories I've heard from kids in school makes me sick. The teachers in their little union loving tantrums have done all they can to brainwash their students of the evils of anyone who doesn't support their little entitlement system. Colleges and high school instructors forced their students to "join" them on "field trips" in Madison to march on the capital, or have to option to not go and write a five page paper that day or other shitty task to that would guarantee the students participation to make the protester numbers look bigger, and like the youth was supporting them.

[Coreece 190]

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[quade 4]

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A professional educator, in my opinion, should present ALL sides of an argument or issue.

Leaving the topic of this thread for a moment to address just this issue.

While I'll agree multiple sides of an issue should be presented for certain subjective topics, I believe it's a huge disservice to students to give the same weight to "all" sides of topics which are based in scientific fact. It makes no sense to me to teach the pyramids were, for instance, built by aliens from outer space.

So, respectfully, no, they should not teach all sides equally. Some things are not matters of opinion. Some things are actual facts and attempting to teach some half thought out alternative isn't even vaguely doing service to the student.

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[Coreece 190]

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It makes no sense to me to teach the pyramids were, for instance, built by aliens from outer space.

It's a weeding process...

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[billvon 3,119]

>A professional educator, in my opinion, should present ALL sides of an argument or issue.

Really? Should 2+2=0 be presented along with 2+2=4? Should history teach that Bush may have masterminded 9/11? That we might have landed on the Moon, and it might have been faked? That the Earth might be round - but it might be flat? That dog might be spelled "dog," but it also might be spelled "god" or "fermion?"

Teaching all things is equivalent to teaching nothing.

[Coreece 190]

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Teaching all things is equivalent to teaching nothing.

Sounds like the internet...

Teaching/praying for discernment is the answer

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