quade 4 #26 May 13, 2012 Quote Quote Honestly I don't know what the 'right' age is to stop breast feeding. Ya, that's what she said...C'mon dude, really? Anthropologically and compared to the rest of the world, the US stops pretty early. In a number of cultures three would not necessarily be considered de facto "too old."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #27 May 13, 2012 Ya, I can think of a lot of things the rest of the world does that we don't emulate... How about the age when you can chew chicken nuggets and cherrios - lol. Is that too early?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 May 13, 2012 QuoteYa, I can think of a lot of things the rest of the world does that we don't emulate... Yeah, well, sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing. Generally speaking, if humans have been doing something since before recorded history, not as a societal thing, but rather as a thing that generally was part of nature, like, i dunno, let's say not taking a crap where they eat their meals or being repelled by other people's vomit, then there is probably a good biological reason for that. A number of helpful antibodies are transferred from mother to offspring through breastfeeding. It's entirely likely we in the US actually ARE doing it wrong since generally speaking we're stopping breastfeeding before an entire year has taken place and therefore are not giving the child a full range of antibodies. This could, for example, explain the generally higher occurrence of allergies in the last several decades. Just a thought.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #29 May 13, 2012 Ya, well thanks to science and technology we don't have to live like that...there are better things to do with our time... ...well, maybe not. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #30 May 13, 2012 Quote Quote Ya, I can think of a lot of things the rest of the world does that we don't emulate... Yeah, well, sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing. Generally speaking, if humans have been doing something since before recorded history, not as a societal thing, but rather as a thing that generally was part of nature, like, i dunno, let's say not taking a crap where they eat their meals or being repelled by other people's vomit, then there is probably a good biological reason for that. A number of helpful antibodies are transferred from mother to offspring through breastfeeding. It's entirely likely we in the US actually ARE doing it wrong since generally speaking we're stopping breastfeeding before an entire year has taken place and therefore are not giving the child a full range of antibodies. This could, for example, explain the generally higher occurrence of allergies in the last several decades. Just a thought. Possibly. Have a feeling all the antibacterial cleaning products and special diets probably aren't helping either. Plus most kids just don't get dirty like they used to. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 May 13, 2012 Quote It looks like a photo to beget controversy, I'd say it's a photo to beget men thinking, "I wanna be that kid". Yeah, we're dogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #32 May 13, 2012 >How about the age when you can chew chicken nuggets and cherrios - lol. >Is that too early? To wean? Almost certainly. Most babies can chew and swallow between 6 and 9 months; there are benefits to breastfeeding out beyond 12 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #33 May 14, 2012 QuoteQuote It looks like a photo to beget controversy, I'd say it's a photo to beget men thinking, "I wanna be that kid". Yeah, we're dogs. Well, they showed us the titties, where's the beer?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #34 May 14, 2012 Family Guy - Breast Feeding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkcucXIuVIYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #35 May 14, 2012 Quote Family Guy - Breast Feeding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkcucXIuVI lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #36 May 14, 2012 For a little bit of perspective, there was a documentary about a woman who was still breast feeding her children at I think it was around age 7 or older. I think it's actually on youtube too, but completely dwarfs the Times cover in it's 'weirdness'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #37 May 14, 2012 The cover is clearly a good one as it made me stop and question my beliefs on breastfeeding. My conclusion was that although my first reaction was surprise there is absolutely nothing wrong with her breastfeeding her child at three years old. If it were a picture of a tribal african woman and a child of the same age standing there I doubt anyone would have looked twice, if then that is the case then what is wrong with the picture? Its a simple matter of cultural acceptance (or not as this case shows). Her defiantly challenging direct look at the camera is not how most women are depicted when breast feeding, the child's adult style like clothing, but essentially its still just a woman feeding her child. It also raises questions on the sexualisation on breasts in the west and our obsession with the sexual objectification of women in society. Even mothers doing motherly acts are not exempt from being labelled as MILFs or 'Yummy Mummys'. Whats wrong with the picture? Nothing, the real question is whats wrong with a society which sees sexualisation in a picture of a woman nursing her child.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #38 May 14, 2012 Quote Quote Honestly I don't know what the 'right' age is to stop breast feeding. Ya, that's what she said...C'mon dude, really? Well even by British standards this chap should most likely have stopped a few years ago... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyHm8oqkOB0&feature=relatedWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #39 May 14, 2012 QuoteThe cover is clearly a good one as it made me stop and question my beliefs on breastfeeding. My conclusion was that although my first reaction was surprise there is absolutely nothing wrong with her breastfeeding her child at three years old. If it were a picture of a tribal african woman and a child of the same age standing there I doubt anyone would have looked twice, if then that is the case then what is wrong with the picture? Its a simple matter of cultural acceptance (or not as this case shows). Her defiantly challenging direct look at the camera is not how most women are depicted when breast feeding, the child's adult style like clothing, but essentially its still just a woman feeding her child. It also raises questions on the sexualisation on breasts in the west and our obsession with the sexual objectification of women in society. Even mothers doing motherly acts are not exempt from being labelled as MILFs or 'Yummy Mummys'. Whats wrong with the picture? Nothing, the real question is whats wrong with a society which sees sexualisation in a picture of a woman nursing her child. Pretty well stated, except the photo as you say is staged in a way that emphases the sexual nature. So I would argue there is something wrong with the pic.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 May 14, 2012 Quote ... except the photo as you say is staged in a way that emphases the sexual nature. So I would argue there is something wrong with the pic. I didn't get the 'sexual nature' part. What I got was a flash of a local woman well-known for b-feeding her kids well beyond the apparent age of the cover kid in front of business customers and during AFF student de-briefs. I just don't think it's appropriate to do it in front of business customers and during AFF student de-briefs. No, DFWAJG, b-feeding in public is not a problem for me. B-feeding at a business in front of customers is.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #41 May 14, 2012 QuoteWhats wrong with the picture? Nothing What if there was no milk in those itty bitty titties?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #42 May 14, 2012 I don't think the photo is at all sexual in nature. I think that Skyrad has it right - the photo is defiant. Breastfeeding as an act of defiance, to me, is a shame. Using kids as an act of defiance is something I always disagree with. Is there ANYTHING nurturing or loving about the picture? All that's missing are the middle fingers. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #43 May 14, 2012 Quote No, DFWAJG, b-feeding in public is not a problem for me. B-feeding at a business in front of customers is. I'd agree with you, its unprofessional. You wouldn't break out a bowl and food so breast feeding is also unacceptable at a business meeting.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 617 #44 May 14, 2012 Pops, I think the way its posed is closer to something out of an 80's glamour mag than a comfy breastfeeding pose. That's all I meant by sexual, I don't find it offensive or erotic just odd.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #45 May 14, 2012 QuoteI'd agree with you, its unprofessional.... breast feeding is also unacceptable at a business meeting. Not necessarily always; depending on the situation and how it's done. My example: I was once at a law firm with a colleague, a female attorney who'd very recently had a baby and was out on maternity leave; and the baby was still on 100% breast-feeding at that time. A case she and I were working on together came up for trial. We needed to have a several-hour meeting with the client to prepare for court, and my colleague's in-person participation at the meeting really was crucial. (Expressing her milk to be able to bottle-feed it to the baby didn't work for her. I sympathize; my own wife tried it, too, with our first kid, and it was a real bitch that we abandoned before too long.) So, my colleague came in to the office for the meeting, which was held in a conference room. Instead of breaking every time the baby fussed for a feed, she simply swiveled her big conference chair away from the table to face a corner of the room, fed the baby, and continued listening and speaking while doing so. Everyone in the was perfectly fine with that, and there was nothing unprofessional about it. Caveat: That was about 20 years ago, and all of us in the room were in our 30s at the time. If a man in, say, his 60s had been in the room, he might have felt socially awkward mainly due to generational differences in attitudes and convention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #46 May 14, 2012 QuoteI don't think the photo is at all sexual in nature. I think that Skyrad has it right - the photo is defiant. Breastfeeding as an act of defiance, to me, is a shame. Using kids as an act of defiance is something I always disagree with. Is there ANYTHING nurturing or loving about the picture? All that's missing are the middle fingers. Just in general - Your statement pretty much nails about every form of expression in recent years. Defiance/conflict instead of discourse/understanding seems to be the nature of speech today. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #47 May 14, 2012 I'm not sure I can tell the difference between that picture and child pornography. If you have to read the subtitles to figure out which it is, we might have a problem. Personally, I think once the child is on solid food, the breast feeding isn't necessary or particularly desirable. I think once the kid can ask for it, you've waited WAY too long. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #48 May 14, 2012 QuoteDefiance/conflict instead of discourse/understanding seems to be the nature of speech today. No it isn't. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #49 May 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteDefiance/conflict instead of discourse/understanding seems to be the nature of speech today. No it isn't. I understand what you are saying and it's very cogently made. And though I disagree with your premise, I get that your experience brings about your viewpoint - therefore we disagree, but I don't think you are either satan, or hitler. much ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #50 May 14, 2012 QuoteYour mileage may vary. i think the sooner they are on solid food (taking it by hand voluntarily) - the better much beyond that, we find it a bit distressing and creepy however, we also would actually put our daughter down and sometimes we'd even let her cry when she didn't really need anything - she even - OH MY - had her own room and absolutely did not sleep with us we even -GASP- gave her chores and responsibilties - sometimes even more as she got older oh the horrible abuse we totally failed - she's independent, smart, makes good decisions, understands right from wrong, she's polite to adults and caring to her friends, and skeptical of skydivers - it's a disaster ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
