SkyDekker 1,465 #26 May 11, 2012 Quote"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,"" But what about the lesbians, who will think of the lesbians? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 May 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I do not see marriage (in any fashion) as a right. *You* don't. But any American who respects the Constitution would. Really Where is marriage listed in the Constitution? this is fucking grade school civics, where we learn about the Supreme Court. You keep digging a deeper hole of nonsense. China beckons! Translated You can provide it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 May 11, 2012 QuoteQuote"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,"" But what about the lesbians, who will think of the lesbians? yeah, Rush, are two lesbians getting married better than two dudes? Or only if they're both hot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #29 May 12, 2012 Hi rush, Quote And of course the only states that do have same sex marriage have come to that point via judical activism Washington state did it via the legislature; a judge put it on hold. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #30 May 12, 2012 QuoteI do not see marriage (in any fashion) as a right I know a number of divorced people who see it as a wrong. Just sayin'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #31 May 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI can also make the argument that this kind of leadership gets closer to a true democracy... And that's a good thing? I think that's a good question. While public opinion and majority rule can be a good thing, you sometimes need a leader who will do what's right / in the best interest of the many...those aren't always the same thing. Moral courage is important. I agree with you here I would add that what is good for the country will more often than not, be of benefit for most. Even if the people can not see it Benefiting the most is not the same thing as allowing everyone to vote, nor is it what the most may in fact vote for.You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #32 May 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I do not see marriage (in any fashion) as a right. *You* don't. But any American who respects the Constitution would. Really Where is marriage listed in the Constitution? this is fucking grade school civics, where we learn about the Supreme Court. You keep digging a deeper hole of nonsense. China beckons! Translated You can provide it It's not specifically mentioned in the constitution, but... http://www.freedomtomarry.org/blog/entry/the-freedom-to-marry-is-a-fundamental-right Quote"It was not until June 12, 1967, that the United States Supreme Court unanimously reversed the Lovings' criminal conviction and declared Virginia's prohibition of interracial marriage to be unconstitutional. Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote in his decision that: 'There is patently no legitimate overriding purpose independent of invidious racial discrimination which justifies [Virginia's prohibition of interracial marriage]. . . . Marriage is one of the 'basic civil rights of man,' fundamental to our very existence and survival. " http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/righttomarry.htm QuoteIn Zablocki v Redhail (1978), the Court struck down a Wisconsin law that required persons under obligations to pay support for the children of previous relationships to obtain permission of a court to marry. The statute required such individuals to prove that they were in compliance with support orders and that marriage would not threaten the financial security of their previous offspring. The Court reasoned that marriage was "a fundamental right" triggering "rigorous scutiny" of Wisconsin's justifications under the Equal Protection Clause. That being said, gay marriage (among many other types) apparently still isn't so cut and dry for this guy either -- specifically his questions 1 & 6 QuoteWhat do our cases suggest about the constitutionality of the following laws?: (1) a law prohibiting a mentally retarded adult from marrying, (2) a law prohibiting first cousins from marrying, (3) a law prohibiting a brother from marrying his sister, (4) a law prohibiting polygamy, (5) a law prohibiting persons of certain incompatible blood types (predisposing offspring to defects or disease) from marrying, and (6) a law prohibiting minors from marrying without the consent of parents or guardians. ... 6. Critics of same-sex marriages argue that unless marriage is defined as the union of one man and one woman we will soon have courts finding a constitutional right to polygamy or a right for a man or woman to marry a favorite pet. What lines might and should be drawn? You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #33 May 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteI do not see marriage (in any fashion) as a right I know a number of divorced people who see it as a wrong. Just sayin'. Amen to that!"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
