1969912 0 #201 May 19, 2012 "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #202 May 19, 2012 State government could charge a filling fee for the contracts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #203 May 19, 2012 Quote Give it up, man. I think somebody hacked Marinus' account. What he's been saying here is light years away from the norm from him. Pops, I think you would also consider it pathologically rude if someone started to meddle in your love life. Imagine what it would feel like if I came to you door to tell you what you can and can't do in bed, an who you can or cannot marry. It's no different from me. People are entitled to their religious views, even if those religious views are homophobic, but just like their sexuality they should keep their religion to themselves. All the bull-shit about same-sex marriage being a danger to the institution of marriage or society or whatnot is just that: bull-shit. There's no examples of societies that came into trouble for tolerating homosexuality or same-sex marriage. OTOH there's loads and loads of examples of fear-mongers who claim a certain demographic is a Cancer2Society to induce fear and hatred for said demographic. It's not good to dwell on the past too much, but it doesn't hurt to remember that the worst thing that ever happened to homosexuals is Christianity. I don't blame every modern Christian for that, but there's still plenty of homophobia among Christians. I don't buy those claims that Christians are genuinely worried about the institution of marriage. Sure there might be delusional idiots who think gay-marriage will destroy their marriage and society, but for the most part it's the same tactics Christians traditionally used to induce fear and hatred for certain groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #204 May 19, 2012 Yes, because Islam is so tolerant of homosexuals. Yet, you focus your hate on Christianity. Why is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #205 May 19, 2012 QuoteQuote Give it up, man. I think somebody hacked Marinus' account. What he's been saying here is light years away from the norm from him. Pops, I think you would also consider it pathologically rude if someone started to meddle in your love life. Imagine what it would feel like if I came to you door to tell you what you can and can't do in bed, an who you can or cannot marry. It's no different from me. People are entitled to their religious views, even if those religious views are homophobic, but just like their sexuality they should keep their religion to themselves.Who is doing that? And this sound more like an excuse you are giving to yourself to talk down your nose at those with whom you disagree All the bull-shit about same-sex marriage being a danger to the institution of marriage or society or whatnot is just that: bull-shit. There's no examples of societies that came into trouble for tolerating homosexuality or same-sex marriage. OTOH there's loads and loads of examples of fear-mongers who claim a certain demographic is a Cancer2Society to induce fear and hatred for said demographic. It's not good to dwell on the past too much, but it doesn't hurt to remember that the worst thing that ever happened to homosexuals is Christianity. I don't blame every modern Christian for that, but there's still plenty of homophobia among Christians. I don't buy those claims that Christians are genuinely worried about the institution of marriage. Sure there might be delusional idiots who think gay-marriage will destroy their marriage and society, but for the most part it's the same tactics Christians traditionally used to induce fear and hatred for certain groups. Refer back to Gravity's post"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #206 May 19, 2012 Islam sucks too, darling, mainly because it's related to Christianity of course. Over all Christianity is a bit more degraded depraved in the sadistic department. Christians engaged in some very creative torture until normal people made that illegal. It's of special interest that Christians tortured people to dead for fictive crimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #207 May 19, 2012 QuoteIslam sucks too, darling, mainly because it's related to Christianity of course. Over all Christianity is a bit more degraded depraved in the sadistic department. Christians engaged in some very creative torture until normal people made that illegal. It's of special interest that Christians tortured people to dead for fictive crimes. Really? You think that that depravity and creative torture follow the tenets of biblical christianity? ...and btw, I thought I was your darling...you two-timing S.O.B!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #208 May 23, 2012 QuoteYes, because Islam is so tolerant of homosexuals. Yet, you focus your hate on Christianity. Why is that? Because he lives in a predominantly christian country and is discussing the issue with people from predominantly christian countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #209 May 23, 2012 Quote Quote Yes, because Islam is so tolerant of homosexuals. Yet, you focus your hate on Christianity. Why is that? Because he lives in a predominantly christian country and is discussing the issue with people from predominantly christian countries. Oh, that's right, I forgot that in your world Islam is that religioin those little brown people in the Middle East believe in. Not something those of us in the rest of the world are exposed to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #210 May 23, 2012 You'l have a hard time arguing that the Muslim religion has greater impact on US internal laws and state politics than Christianity. As Dekker said, given the context of the conversation, discussing it under the Christian doctrine is more than appropriate.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #211 May 23, 2012 QuoteYou'l have a hard time arguing that the Muslim religion has greater impact on US internal laws and state politics than Christianity. Right, because that wasn't what I was arguing. QuoteAs Dekker said, given the context of the conversation, discussing it under the Christian doctrine is more than appropriate. I wasn't confining my question to the context of the conversation. I was commenting about the posters history in general. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #212 May 23, 2012 QuoteQuote Give it up, man. I think somebody hacked Marinus' account. What he's been saying here is light years away from the norm from him. Pops, I think you would also consider it pathologically rude if someone started to meddle in your love life. Imagine what it would feel like if I came to you door to tell you what you can and can't do in bed, an who you can or cannot marry. It's no different from me. People are entitled to their religious views, even if those religious views are homophobic, but just like their sexuality they should keep their religion to themselves. All the bull-shit about same-sex marriage being a danger to the institution of marriage or society or whatnot is just that: bull-shit. There's no examples of societies that came into trouble for tolerating homosexuality or same-sex marriage. OTOH there's loads and loads of examples of fear-mongers who claim a certain demographic is a Cancer2Society to induce fear and hatred for said demographic. It's not good to dwell on the past too much, but it doesn't hurt to remember that the worst thing that ever happened to homosexuals is Christianity. I don't blame every modern Christian for that, but there's still plenty of homophobia among Christians. I don't buy those claims that Christians are genuinely worried about the institution of marriage. Sure there might be delusional idiots who think gay-marriage will destroy their marriage and society, but for the most part it's the same tactics Christians traditionally used to induce fear and hatred for certain groups. I had this question sometime back with Bill concerning Public opinion of same sex marriage. The polls would seem to indicate a majority support for legal recognition of same-sex couples (Marriage). However everytime its come to a vote in what 32 states it has been defeated. (I guess the majority was out of town). Why use the term homophobic? or even in your case christianphobic? Why marriage Vs Civil Unions and or a legal contract reconized by a state. Marriage is considered a sacred union between a Man and a Women, by millions in this country and has been for several thousand years, maybe this is the LINE that many are willing to stand on and say respectfully No. I'm just asking the question Why Marriage, when there are methods to obtain the legal reconition and protection under the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #213 May 23, 2012 >I'm just asking the question Why Marriage, when there are methods to >obtain the legal reconition and protection under the law. If there were, then there would be much less of an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #214 May 23, 2012 Quote You'l have a hard time arguing that the Muslim religion has greater impact on US internal laws and state politics than Christianity. Christianity couldn't get the Patriot Act passed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #215 May 24, 2012 Quote Quote You'l have a hard time arguing that the Muslim religion has greater impact on US internal laws and state politics than Christianity. Christianity couldn't get the Patriot Act passed. LOL, Touche'Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
