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rushmc 23
QuoteDoes your knee hurt from jerking so much?
Capitalists spend other people's money. That's what happens to the money you invest. It gets spent by other people. It's really not a liberal thing. Other people invested in OWN. It isn't working out. Risk is the price capitalists pay for the potential reward of profit.
Take a breath and remember, we are talking government liberals
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
Oprah Winfrey is a government liberal?
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rushmc 23
QuoteOprah Winfrey is a government liberal?
Yes
She endorsed Obama
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
So now everyone who endorsed Obama is a member of the government? And all of their collective actions (such as accepting investments in their businesses) are examples of government activity?
That's ridiculous even coming out of your keyboard.
- Dan G
That's ridiculous even coming out of your keyboard.
- Dan G
rushmc 23
QuoteSo now everyone who endorsed Obama is a member of the government? And all of their collective actions (such as accepting investments in their businesses) are examples of government activity?
That's ridiculous even coming out of your keyboard.
Dude
You really have to stop being sooooooooooo serious
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
DanG 1
Translation: rushmc can't explain his BS, so he pretends he was joking.
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- Dan G
rushmc 23
QuoteTranslation: rushmc can't explain his BS, so he pretends he was joking.
Hook, line and sinker
You are entertaining
I will give you that
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteSo now everyone who endorsed Obama is a member of the government? And all of their collective actions .........
But, since you need to be serious (and only God know why)
This is what Obama is pushing
The collective.....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Airgump 1
the way i read the article she was in a 50/50 deal with discovery channel, in that case she lost treasure and she also lost the same amount of treasure for her sponsors. total loss $660M.
i guess the anointed one won't be getting a bag full of $10.00 donations from her this campaign cycle.
i guess the anointed one won't be getting a bag full of $10.00 donations from her this campaign cycle.
Quotethe way i read the article she was in a 50/50 deal with discovery channel, in that case she lost treasure and she also lost the same amount of treasure for her sponsors. total loss $660M.
i guess the anointed one won't be getting a bag full of $10.00 donations from her this campaign cycle.
You read wrong.
"Discovery, which partnered 50-50 with Winfrey to launch the network and has been underwriting its costs."
Rush's attempts at pretending he was joking aside, how is Oprah any different than good ol Donald Trump? He has often squandered investor money and has trashed most of the GOP candidates in the 2012 field, since he held hilarious notions of being President.
Politicizing the failure of OWN is a silly reach. This isn't MSNBC or Fox, this is more like Martha Stewart with a bit more pigment.
rushmc 23
I am going to get another pole out
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteQuotethe way i read the article she was in a 50/50 deal with discovery channel, in that case she lost treasure and she also lost the same amount of treasure for her sponsors. total loss $660M.
i guess the anointed one won't be getting a bag full of $10.00 donations from her this campaign cycle.
You read wrong.
"Discovery, which partnered 50-50 with Winfrey to launch the network and has been underwriting its costs."
Rush's attempts at pretending he was joking aside, how is Oprah any different than good ol Donald Trump? He has often squandered investor money and has trashed most of the GOP candidates in the 2012 field, since he held hilarious notions of being President.
Politicizing the failure of OWN is a silly reach. This isn't MSNBC or Fox, this is more like Martha Stewart with a bit more pigment.
Only one difference that I know of between the two you list
One of them has not failed at this level
At least that I know of
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
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Only one difference that I know of between the two you list
One of them has not failed at this level
At least that I know of
You been in a cave? You don't recall the Taj Mahal debacle, the bankruptcy at the Plaza, the more recent 2009 bankruptcy of Trump Entertainment Resorts? On multiple occasions he had to cede significant equity stakes to the bondholders he could no longer pay.
Put it another way - he's had numerous OWN-scale failures in his time. Investors are drawn to his grand projects, despite their high risk of failure. Same way some investors keep blowing money trying to build new cable channels.
Forbes puts Trump a tad higher than Oprah at 2.9B versus 2.7B. Interest question - is it harder to become a billionaire in media or in real estate where you have ability to leverage?
rushmc 23
QuoteQuote
Only one difference that I know of between the two you list
One of them has not failed at this level
At least that I know of
You been in a cave? You don't recall the Taj Mahal debacle, the bankruptcy at the Plaza, the more recent 2009 bankruptcy of Trump Entertainment Resorts? On multiple occasions he had to cede significant equity stakes to the bondholders he could no longer pay.
Put it another way - he's had numerous OWN-scale failures in his time. Investors are drawn to his grand projects, despite their high risk of failure. Same way some investors keep blowing money trying to build new cable channels.
Forbes puts Trump a tad higher than Oprah at 2.9B versus 2.7B. Interest question - is it harder to become a billionaire in media or in real estate where you have ability to leverage?
Ok
I stand corrected
In any event I could care less about either of them
I thought the thread was funny to start with
It still is
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Airgump 1
at 330M loss she won't be there for long.
SkyDekker 1,465
Quoteat 330M loss she won't be there for long.
Who is she? Oprah doesn't have $330m in this deal.
QuoteQuoteat 330M loss she won't be there for long.
Who is she? Oprah doesn't have $330m in this deal.
facts seem totally irrelevant to this jihad against Obama supporters.
Airgump 1
"The losses at Oprah Winfrey's stumbling cable channel are approaching a staggering $330 million, according to a report."
"Discovery, which partnered 50-50 with Winfrey to launch the network and has been underwriting its costs, has invested nearly $600 million in it since 2008, according to a report in Businessweek magazine over the weekend."
just saying if ya back the wrong horse, people may not watch your show or your network. like bad drop zones, eventually you run out of people buying jump tickets.
"Discovery, which partnered 50-50 with Winfrey to launch the network and has been underwriting its costs, has invested nearly $600 million in it since 2008, according to a report in Businessweek magazine over the weekend."
just saying if ya back the wrong horse, people may not watch your show or your network. like bad drop zones, eventually you run out of people buying jump tickets.
SkyDekker 1,465
Quotejust saying if ya back the wrong horse, people may not watch your show or your network.
There are very few people who chose their entertainment based on political ideology. Your premise is flawed.
We get that you are happy that somebody who is in favour of Obama is not having as much success as before.
However, if you took a couple of your braincells and think this situation through, you would understand that numbers for the Oprah show had been dropping for quite some time. Even prior to Obama running for President.
This drop in viewership ensured that she could not renew her contract with the network. Why you ask? Because her remuneration would have been significantly lower due to her decreasing performance.
Hence, renewing the contract was not an option, and OWN was therefor created out of necessity. However, with her deline already at a steady pace, the success of that network has been in doubt from the beginning.
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just saying if ya back the wrong horse, people may not watch your show or your network. like bad drop zones, eventually you run out of people buying jump tickets.
Do you think that's really the problem here, rather than the obvious problems of moving from a 2 hour (10hr/week) show on a network that is 100% available to viewers, going to a 24hr/day channel that will take time to get placed on crowded cable and satellite networks, and completely bypass the OTA viewers?
Capitalists spend other people's money. That's what happens to the money you invest. It gets spent by other people. It's really not a liberal thing. Other people invested in OWN. It isn't working out. Risk is the price capitalists pay for the potential reward of profit.
- Dan G
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