Republican neo-Nazi gun nut goes on killing spree

[Andy9o8 3]

I just report. Fair. Balanced. And unafraid.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/gilbert/articles/2012/05/02/20120502gilbert-mass-shooting-horrors-vigilante-jt-ready-final-act.html

[lawrocket 3]

Republican goes on killing spree? Hmmm.
gun nut goes on killing spree? Hmmm.
Neo-Nazi goes on killing spree? Not a shocker.

I think "neo-Naz goes on killing spree" would pretty much say it all. We could keep going...

"White neo-Nazi former Marine Arizonan Politician Right-wing Vigilante Gen-Xer Gun Nut Obese Male goes on killing spree."

I'm sure that's a bit more specific. He was a bad guy, and I do not think he is reflective of anything more than the neo-Nazi movement, which by definition are bad guys.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 3]

He was obese? I didn't know that. What a fucker.

[kallend 2,182]

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He was obese? I didn't know that. What a fucker.

We should ban obese people!

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[billvon 3,132]

Looks like the media is playing THE RACE CARD:

"The shootings occurred at a beige, middle-class home"

Why did they have to mention beige, if not to point out the house wasn't black?

[christelsabine 1]

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Looks like the media is playing THE RACE CARD:

"The shootings occurred at a beige, middle-class home"

Why did they have to mention beige, if not to point out the house wasn't black?

Did you ever see a black house?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[DiverMike 5]

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"The shootings occurred at a beige, middle-class home"

I must admit I did a double take when I read that. What information of any value is the color of the house? Does it make tjhe story any more/less horrific that the current or previous owner of the house preferred earth tones?

For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

[billvon 3,132]

>Did you ever see a black house?

Sorry, "African-American house." (And yes, they're brown, not black, I admit it.)

[christelsabine 1]

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"The shootings occurred at a beige, middle-class home"

I must admit I did a double take when I read that. What information of any value is the color of the house? Does it make tjhe story any more/less horrific that the current or previous owner of the house preferred earth tones?

Yep, this and the comment about a *middle class home*.

Strange, very strange.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[toolbox 0]

I had no idea that republicans were socialist.
According to news reports,this guy was a member of a socialist group.
Sounds like he was a marine,a socialist,and a neo-nazi.
Are those three qualities definitive of a republican?
I do not care for republicans or democrats myself.
Being so polarized(all left or all right) seems unrealistic and unbalanced to me.
It's obvious that this guy was very angry and confused to say the least.
A very tragic incident. It seems there are a lot of husbands and boyfriends killing there families in murder suicides,not to mention mothers killing there own children.
These things have been happening through out history but,we hear about them more often now because there are more people and news is disseminated further and faster than ever before.

[jakee 1,611]

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Sounds like he was a marine,a socialist,and a neo-nazi.
Are those three qualities definitive of a republican?

Dunno. What about getting elected as a republican?

Of course, I don't think his being republican has anything to do with it, but equally it's funny that anyone would think it neccesary to disown him as one. And in the interests of maximum fairness: "Because of his extreme views, several GOP congressman in Arizona sent a letter to Maricopa County Republican Party leaders asking that Ready be removed from that position."

(Wait, that's not in the spirit of the thread - I think Bush told him to do it!)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,611]

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Harry Hughes, a member of the National Socialist Movement who also took part in armed border patrols, expressed shock at Wednesday's mayhem.

"I think this is horrible," he said. "I want everyone to know J.T. Ready was the last person on Earth I'd figure to have done anything to hurt a child.

Really? The last person? Compared to someone who, say, wasn't a Nazi, didn't advocate vigilante violence and didn't condemn babies for being ratially impure? Not convinced about this dude's figurin' skills.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,132]

>I had no idea that republicans were socialist.

Sure they are. They're just socialist in a different way than democrats are. Ask a republican if they support veteran's benefits, or federal highway funding, or military spending, or if they think the US should build and man a big border fence.

[toolbox 0]

Yea I seen he was running for sheriff or something also.
I was trying to imply how a lot of people like to label everyone in a group after one confused individual who may have associated themselves with the said group.
So he was a socialist republican neo-nazi law enforcement kinda guy,possibly with a hispanic girlfriend.
If the media has the facts straight(they often get things wrong)then he was a man of contradiction to say the least.
I also sensed a lot of anti gun flavor in the original post.
If the guy had burned the house down with gasoline instead of using a gun to kill everyone,would we hear anti gas can or anti Bic lighter rhetoric instead.

[toolbox 0]

Nazi's are some very bad eggs for sure.
So are all other gangs of thugs and intolerant hate mongers.
I'm not sure which is worse,victimizing because of ideology or for monetary gain.
Seems this guy was just emotionally unstable and went off all by his lonesome.

[toolbox 0]

Good point.
But exhibiting a bit of socialistic behavior now and then would not make a group a purely socialistic party.
In pure socialism the individual has far less importance and everything is owned and controlled by the state.
This guy if anything was just very disturbed and looking for a place or group to belong.
There are a lot more people out there all around the globe just like this guy.

[billvon 3,132]

>But exhibiting a bit of socialistic behavior now and then would not make a
>group a purely socialistic party.

Definitely true. But that doesn't stop their opponents.

>In pure socialism the individual has far less importance and everything is
>owned and controlled by the state.

Agreed - but like pure capitalism and pure democracy, it neither exists nor would function well in the real world.

[toolbox 0]

Soooo very very true.
The right balance is the answer for sure.
But then again balance for one may not float well for another.
Why can't everyone get along?

[Andy9o8 3]

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Good point.
But exhibiting a bit of socialistic behavior now and then would not make a group a purely socialistic party.
In pure socialism the individual has far less importance and everything is owned and controlled by the state.
This guy if anything was just very disturbed and looking for a place or group to belong.
There are a lot more people out there all around the globe just like this guy.

Toolbox, you've misunderstood - he wasn't a "Socialist", as in Marxist, left-wing, etc. He was a "National Socialist", as in "Nazi". See >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_socialist. As in right-wing. Oh, and he was an aspiring Republican office-holder. See above.

[Andy9o8 3]

Anyhow, the silver lining to all these gloomy clouds is he was able to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights to Stand His Ground, by God.

[toolbox 0]

I stand corrected.
Sounds like his girlfriend was hispanic though,which is unusual for a nazi type.
I have no love for any extremist groups and have even stompped the guts out of a few goose steppin skin heads in my younger years(when they attacked my shitfaced black friend).
Because he used a gun to accomplish his act of lunacy,it will unfortunately give fuel to the anti gun groups.
I see guns as defensive tools.
If you wanted to kill someone and not get caught,a gun would be a bad choice.
Guns make too much noise,leave too much evidence behind. Attacking an unarmed person with hands and feet,or a club and knocking their brains out would be easier to get away with,since you could very easily get rid of the evidence.
But then if they have a gun for self defense you would most likely get shot

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Ready, a prospective Democratic candidate for Pinal County Sheriff, was founder of U.S. Border Guard and a member of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, both nationally prominent anti-illegal immigration organizations. At one time, he also belonged to the National Socialist Movement, which espouses White-supremacist theories.

Not surprising you would overlook that aspect in your constant zeal to bash everything Republican.

It's also the left-wing Occupy movement espousing most of the racist rhetoric these days. Just in case you missed that, too.

[skypuppy 1]

Actually, 'a middle-class home' does describe something to me. The approximate size, a rough idea of the number of bedrooms and bathrooms, size of yeard. That term is quite descriptive. And my house is a beige middle-class home as well.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

[mnealtx 0]

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Good point.
But exhibiting a bit of socialistic behavior now and then would not make a group a purely socialistic party.
In pure socialism the individual has far less importance and everything is owned and controlled by the state.
This guy if anything was just very disturbed and looking for a place or group to belong.
There are a lot more people out there all around the globe just like this guy.

Toolbox, you've misunderstood - he wasn't a "Socialist", as in Marxist, left-wing, etc. He was a "National Socialist", as in "Nazi". See >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_socialist. As in right-wing. Oh, and he was an aspiring Republican office-holder. See above.

Not so - might want to have the mods change the thread title, it appears you went into auto-lib mode with the labeling.

From your article:

"Ready, a prospective Democratic candidate for Pinal County Sheriff," - looks like he changed sides.

And of course, there was his prior support of the Arizona Occupy crowd from last year.

Mike
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