jclalor 12 #1 April 21, 2012 This makes for his second poaching conviction in 3 years. http://news.yahoo.com/ted-nugent-agrees-plead-guilty-illegal-kill-003506839.html;_ylt=A0oGdMRM5ZJPgkgAK1APxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTExZW1jOHIwBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA3NwMQR2dGlkAwRsA1dTMQ-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 April 21, 2012 I noticed that you didn't go back and update your first thread with the info that the SS had cleared Nugent...wonder why that is, jclalor? Other than the sugar cookies, that is.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 April 21, 2012 Might as well get used to the attacks on anyone who speaks out against Obama and for Romney. Obviously, Obama cannot run on his record so the left-wingers who have lined up to smear anyone and anything, have circled the wagons. I predict they will attack Romneys children at some point since nothing is off the table as long as they think they can justify it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #4 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteI noticed that you didn't go back and update your first thread with the info that the SS had cleared Nugent...wonder why that is, jclalor? Other than the sugar cookies, that is. Being cleared and saying stupid shit is independant of one another mnealtx It seeems the DFG IN Alaska and California didn't clear him, I never liked poachers much, in particular, the ones that don't need the meat on the table, how about you mnealx? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #5 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI noticed that you didn't go back and update your first thread with the info that the SS had cleared Nugent...wonder why that is, jclalor? Other than the sugar cookies, that is. Being cleared and saying stupid shit is independant of one another mnealtx You mean like 'he's wanting to start a revolution', right? QuoteIt seeems the DFG IN Alaska and California didn't clear him, I never liked poachers much, in particular, the ones that don't need the meat on the table, how about you mnealx? I think it's yet ANOTHER one of your desperate attempts to smear...how about you, jclalor?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 April 21, 2012 Quote Quote Might as well get used to the attacks on anyone who speaks out against Obama and for Romney. Obviously, Obama cannot run on his record so the left-wingers who have lined up to smear anyone and anything, have circled the wagons. I predict they will attack Romneys children at some point since nothing is off the table as long as they think they can justify it. Now you're getting it. It should be familiar ground. Where I live, poachers are considered low life scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 April 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Might as well get used to the attacks on anyone who speaks out against Obama and for Romney. Obviously, Obama cannot run on his record so the left-wingers who have lined up to smear anyone and anything, have circled the wagons. I predict they will attack Romneys children at some point since nothing is off the table as long as they think they can justify it. Now you're getting it. It should be familiar ground. It is - we've been seeing you do it for how long now?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 April 21, 2012 I've been known to poach an egg or two in my time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 April 21, 2012 QuoteI've been known to poach an egg or two in my time. Hmm Haven t noticed you poaching any eggs, but I have seen you lay a couple now and then"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 April 21, 2012 QuoteThis makes for his second poaching conviction in 3 years. Wow...not good. Though I loved his music, I never really cared much for him.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 April 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Might as well get used to the attacks on anyone who speaks out against Obama and for Romney. Obviously, Obama cannot run on his record so the left-wingers who have lined up to smear anyone and anything, have circled the wagons. I predict they will attack Romneys children at some point since nothing is off the table as long as they think they can justify it. Now you're getting it. It should be familiar ground. Where I live, poachers are considered low life scum. Seems as if the main issue was he illegally crossed onto land owned by the USFS. Are you saying anyone who breaks the law by crossing a border illegally is a scumbag and ought to be jailed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 April 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Might as well get used to the attacks on anyone who speaks out against Obama and for Romney. Obviously, Obama cannot run on his record so the left-wingers who have lined up to smear anyone and anything, have circled the wagons. I predict they will attack Romneys children at some point since nothing is off the table as long as they think they can justify it. Now you're getting it. It should be familiar ground. Where I live, poachers are considered low life scum. Seems as if the main issue was he illegally crossed onto land owned by the USFS. Are you saying anyone who breaks the law by crossing a border illegally is a scumbag and ought to be jailed? Appears to have been due to a fairly recent change in the law that Nugent may not have been aware of: "Nugent's attorney told the Anchorage Daily News on Friday that his client, who has previously hunted in the same area, was unaware of the law, which was introduced less than five years ago. He told the newspaper he watched the video clip from Nugent's show and the arrow "touched" the bear and stuck in the ground." The other issue mentioned wasn't poaching, either, but an improperly filled out tag.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 April 21, 2012 That will teach him to speak out against Dear Leader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #14 April 21, 2012 You are correct.....but it's no fun to fuck with SC with facts. Nugent pleads to misdemeanor Wonder if he'll get to keep his armory of weapons while on probation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #15 April 21, 2012 Quote"Poaching" isn't the right term for this incident QuotePoaching is the illegal taking of fish or wildlife. Poaching can include any of five factors: time, location, number, method or species. Time Poaching could be a violation of a time period when fish or wildlife may not be legally taken or possessed. Examples are fishing or hunting before a season opens or after a season closes, or hunting more than 30 minutes before sunrise or 30 minutes after sunset. Location A violation involving an illegal location would include hunting in a refuge, or fishing in a sanctuary, or taking an animal from the wrong management unit. Number This type of violation usually involves taking or possessing more than the legal limit of fish or wildlife. If the daily limit of walleye is six per angler, but an angler catches and keeps more than six in one day, that angler is poaching. Method Poaching by illegal method of taking fish or wildlife usually involves some type of illegal equipment or device. Catching fish in a fish trap, shooting deer at night with the aid of a spotlight, or shooting ducks that are attracted by bait are all examples of illegal methods and poaching. Species The wildlife species that may be legally hunted have been defined and are regulated through special open seasons. Taking any protected wildlife species, such as a bird of prey or songbird, is illegal and considered poaching. Poaching is a serious and costly crime. It robs ethical anglers and hunters of game and fish, and robs all citizens of our valuable wildlife resources. Poaching can be reduced if concerned citizens report the signs of suspected illegal activity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 April 21, 2012 Keebler elves ain't got nothin' on you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #17 April 23, 2012 I've seen little video bits of him and don't find him very charming...but if this article is to be believed, he's hardly lawless scum. Failed to have a tag signed? Shot two bears when he was only entitled to one? He should play within the rules, but I don't see what the fuss is about?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,548 #18 April 23, 2012 Quote don't find him very charming Boy howdy, now that's forceful It's only a fuss because he's fairly rabidly partisan, which makes him fodder for the other rabidly partisan. In the offshoot of the well-known Muslim saying that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and the friend of my enemy is my enemy. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #19 April 23, 2012 Quotehe's hardly lawless scum...I don't see what the fuss is about? Yep, more shit blown out of proportion by deceptive lefties...they can't be trusted when they pull petty shit like this. Can't believe I was sucked into that one without researching the story for myself - I just didn't think Lalor would stoop so low...I should've known better, duh... Can't believe I actually gave them a benefit of a doubt...fuckin' liberals man...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,548 #20 April 23, 2012 Quote fuckin' liberals man... Thanks, man Wendy P. (fuckin' liberal -- and check the post immediately above yours)There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #21 April 23, 2012 Quote Quote fuckin' liberals man... Thanks, man Wendy P. (fuckin' liberal -- and check the post immediately above yours) Sorry Wendy...bad apples and all that. There's a lesson to be learned here...if you're gonna be deceptive, at least be good at it.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #22 April 23, 2012 Quote Quote don't find him very charming Boy howdy, now that's forceful It's only a fuss because he's fairly rabidly partisan, which makes him fodder for the other rabidly partisan. In the offshoot of the well-known Muslim saying that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and the friend of my enemy is my enemy. Wendy P. OK, Wendy. I find him coarse and lacking in humor or intellectual quality. Even thought I might agree with the basis of some of his opinions, I find being on the same side of an issue with him embarassing. Better? :) Edit: I drop out of conversations around here for similar reasons, by the way. People on both sides of an issue cause a ptentially valuable debate to degenerate into name calling and childish side-issues.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,548 #23 April 23, 2012 Actually, I thought "don't find him very charming" to get the point across really well. It not only indicates that you have some class, it also indicates that he probably doesn't. Accurate on both points. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #24 April 24, 2012 QuoteIf he's allowed to harvest one bear, and harvested one bear, where does "poaching" come into play? "Administrative technicality" is the description I would use. Similar to the law against "upgrading" when diving for abalone. Meant to keep you from taking more if you have already wounded the limit -- even if in some cases the wounding may be inconsequential. If he has hunted before, he knows that there are rules to be understood and followed. Someone of his resources doesn't even have to learn those if he doesn't feel like it; he can just pay someone to know for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #25 April 24, 2012 Yeah, he can just have his lawyer go hunting with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
