popsjumper 2 #51 April 21, 2012 Polygamy is not weird. This IS: Quote I like to get a good laugh picturing Mitt in his magic Mormon underwear.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #52 April 21, 2012 Quote *** Quote Yahoo answers???? Really??? Is that where you get your information? ...OK, you get my drift. No, no and no. Yahoo news is NOT Yahoo answers, try and keep up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #53 April 21, 2012 OK...now I understand. You have no idea what you are posting and everything now makes sense. From you: http://answers.yahoo.com/question........My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #54 April 21, 2012 QuoteOK...now I understand. You have no idea what you are posting and everything now makes sense. From you: http://answers.yahoo.com/question........ You were right, I was wrong. I posted the wrong link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #55 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteOK...now I understand. You have no idea what you are posting and everything now makes sense. From you: http://answers.yahoo.com/question........ I was wrong in my smart ass reply to you, but correct on the facts, again. http://abcnews.go.com/US/warren-jeffs-guilty-child-rape/story?id=14228198 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #56 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteOK...now I understand. You have no idea what you are posting and everything now makes sense. From you: http://answers.yahoo.com/question........ I was wrong in my smart ass reply to you, but correct on the facts, again. http://abcnews.go.com/US/warren-jeffs-guilty-child-rape/story?id=14228198 QuoteJeffs' sect broke off from the mainstream Mormon Church 72 years ago. Gee, it's not like Romney and his family sat in his Church for 20 years. Of course, according to you Liberals, that wouldn't have influenced his views even if he had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #57 April 21, 2012 QuotePolygamy is not weird. Polygamy is weird, go ask around a little bit, don't take my word for it. Whats even weirder? forcing young girls to have sex with old men, as was the norm for Morminism, until they had to do away with it so Utah could become a state. Then again, perhaps 14 year old girls want to have sex with 60 year old men. Or they could just move to Mexico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #58 April 21, 2012 Sorry, pal. Unlike Gravitymaster's predictable cheap bashes at liberals, you have the capacity to do better. I'm no Romney fan by any stretch, but you're not persuading here on any level. Persuade me that Romney or Huntsman are racists today, as mature adults. I don't see it. And do you really think the visitor from Mars, looking at the history of Christianity and Mormonism, would think the Mormons are the weirder ones? Peronally, I couldn't care about Mormons' undergarments any more than I care that religious Jews, Muslims and Sikhs keep their heads covered. Nor have you convinced me that the average Mormon today supports forcing underage girls to have sex with older men. Your approach isn't working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #59 April 21, 2012 Run along now. I think I hear an ambulance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #60 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteSorry, pal. Unlike Gravitymaster's predictable cheap bashes at liberals, you have the capacity to do better. I'm no Romney fan by any stretch, but you're not persuading here on any level. Perhaps your right. I have just become so tired of seeing the countless and baseless Obama attacks; He's a muslim, he was born in Kenya, he's a terrorist, He knowingly eats dogs, he's a communist etc etc etc. If Obama had belong to a church with just a fraction of the scandal the Mormon church has... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #61 April 21, 2012 I don't reject Catholic candidates because of the scandals in that church either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #62 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteI don't reject Catholic candidates because of the scandals in that church either. I think church scandals and church doctrine are different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #63 April 21, 2012 Ya know that's Harry Reid's church, too, right? And he chose it, he wasn't born into it. If there are "good" and "bad" Mormons, then it's not the religion that's the problem, and focusing on it is just pandering. Extremism is generally bad. Mormonism is just Mormonism. And Family Home Evening is a great idea. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #64 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteYa know that's Harry Reid's church, too, right? And he chose it, he wasn't born into it. If there are "good" and "bad" Mormons, then it's not the religion that's the problem, and focusing on it is just pandering. Extremism is generally bad. Mormonism is just Mormonism. And Family Home Evening is a great idea.Wendy P. The LDS has many positive atributes. as do most other religions. Reid has a history of backing law that is very contrary to the Mormon church What has my head spinning is how the Republicans, who have been hijacked by Christian fundlementalist,now accept a candiate who is Mormon. If it was not for the fact that he was running against Obama, he would be considered the spawn of Satan by most Fundlementalist. ( Many still do) Everyone knows the vast majority of the Republican party is voting against Obama, and not for Romney. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #65 April 21, 2012 That's an unfortunate charge to bring up if they're trying to damage Romney. From a 2008 story by that right-wing zealot Nicholas Kristof at the NYTimes: "Obama's father, who apparently converted to Catholicism while attending a Roman Catholic school, was also polygamous in keeping with local custom, taking an informal Kenyan wife who preceded Obama's mother but remained a consort, according to accounts by local people and the senator himself." Another backfire.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #66 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteYa know that's Harry Reid's church, too, right? And he chose it, he wasn't born into it. If there are "good" and "bad" Mormons, then it's not the religion that's the problem, and focusing on it is just pandering. Extremism is generally bad. Mormonism is just Mormonism. And Family Home Evening is a great idea. Harry Reid does not legislate his religious views, I have no problem with anyone's religion as long as they can keep church business and state business seperate. The mormons have some wonderful qualities, I have always admired how they take care of fellow members financialy whenf they are in a time of crisis. They also had some of the cutest tv commercials back in the eighties. Very few on the right are voting for Romney, their voting against Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #67 April 21, 2012 You don't remember Post #18? That prompted my comment. On the face of it, I have no problem with the news links as you intended.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #68 April 21, 2012 Quote***QuoteThat's an unfortunate charge to bring up if they're trying to damage Romney. From a 2008 story by that right-wing zealot Nicholas Kristof at the NYTimes: "Obama's father, who apparently converted to Catholicism while attending a Roman Catholic school, was also polygamous in keeping with local custom, taking an informal Kenyan wife who preceded Obama's mother but remained a consort, according to accounts by local people and the senator himself." Another backfire. That's the wonderful thing about campaigns now, just throw all the shit against the wall and see what sticks. This almost worked for the right with accusations that Obama was a Muslim, a Kenyan a terrorist etc etc etc. The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #69 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou don't remember Post #18? That prompted my comment. On the face of it, I have no problem with the news links as you intended. Please see post #54 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #70 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuote***QuoteThat's an unfortunate charge to bring up if they're trying to damage Romney. From a 2008 story by that right-wing zealot Nicholas Kristof at the NYTimes: "Obama's father, who apparently converted to Catholicism while attending a Roman Catholic school, was also polygamous in keeping with local custom, taking an informal Kenyan wife who preceded Obama's mother but remained a consort, according to accounts by local people and the senator himself." Another backfire. That's the wonderful thing about campaigns now, just throw all the shit against the wall and see what sticks. This almost worked for the right with accusations that Obama was a Muslim, a Kenyan a terrorist etc etc etc. The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean sorta like you've been doing? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #71 April 21, 2012 Quote The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean like you're trying to do over and over and over?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #72 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuote The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean like you're trying to do over and over and over? Funny thing is he will now try and claim righties are doing the same thing but I haven't seen anything for a while that attacked Obama on anything much other than his policies, barring a snide remark, mainly from me, here and there. Edited to correct spelling from my Iphone with Siri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #73 April 21, 2012 yep!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Southern_Man 0 #74 April 21, 2012 Quote What has my head spinning is how the Republicans, who have been hijacked by Christian fundlementalist,now accept a candiate who is Mormon. If it was not for the fact that he was running against Obama, he would be considered the spawn of Satan by most Fundlementalist. ( Many still do) Everyone knows the vast majority of the Republican party is voting against Obama, and not for Romney. If this really makes your head spin then I think you would do well with a deeper understanding of fundamentalist theory of political engagement. Sure, fundamentalist think Mormons are going to hell (frankly, this is a shared trait with more liberal Christians as well--Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, etc. all rebaptize Mormon converts because they do not consider Mormon baptism as valid in any way) but evangelicals and fundamentalists have been willing for a long time to make alliances off convenience with people who support their social views. Jerry Falwell, who is, you know, kind of the Godfather of Fundamentalist political engagement having started the Moral Majority, said specifically about Mitt in 2006: IQuote have no problem voting for a person who is not of my faith as long as he or she stands with me on the moral and social issues. (Massachusetts governor) Mitt Romney may be a candidate for president. He’s a Mormon. If he’s pro-life, pro-family, I don’t think he’ll have any problem getting the support of evangelical Christians. This was Falwell's position from the beginning on political engagement and he was willing to make common cause with right-to-life Catholics, support candidates like the nominally Presbyterian Reagan, and engage in a host of ways in alliances of convenience."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #75 April 21, 2012 Everyone knows the vast majority of the Republican party is voting against Obama, and not for Romney. this isn't something new you know That is how Obama got elected"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #67 April 21, 2012 You don't remember Post #18? That prompted my comment. On the face of it, I have no problem with the news links as you intended.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #68 April 21, 2012 Quote***QuoteThat's an unfortunate charge to bring up if they're trying to damage Romney. From a 2008 story by that right-wing zealot Nicholas Kristof at the NYTimes: "Obama's father, who apparently converted to Catholicism while attending a Roman Catholic school, was also polygamous in keeping with local custom, taking an informal Kenyan wife who preceded Obama's mother but remained a consort, according to accounts by local people and the senator himself." Another backfire. That's the wonderful thing about campaigns now, just throw all the shit against the wall and see what sticks. This almost worked for the right with accusations that Obama was a Muslim, a Kenyan a terrorist etc etc etc. The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #69 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou don't remember Post #18? That prompted my comment. On the face of it, I have no problem with the news links as you intended. Please see post #54 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #70 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuote***QuoteThat's an unfortunate charge to bring up if they're trying to damage Romney. From a 2008 story by that right-wing zealot Nicholas Kristof at the NYTimes: "Obama's father, who apparently converted to Catholicism while attending a Roman Catholic school, was also polygamous in keeping with local custom, taking an informal Kenyan wife who preceded Obama's mother but remained a consort, according to accounts by local people and the senator himself." Another backfire. That's the wonderful thing about campaigns now, just throw all the shit against the wall and see what sticks. This almost worked for the right with accusations that Obama was a Muslim, a Kenyan a terrorist etc etc etc. The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean sorta like you've been doing? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 April 21, 2012 Quote The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean like you're trying to do over and over and over?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #72 April 21, 2012 QuoteQuote The truth no longer matters in elections, only creating unfounded fears. You mean like you're trying to do over and over and over? Funny thing is he will now try and claim righties are doing the same thing but I haven't seen anything for a while that attacked Obama on anything much other than his policies, barring a snide remark, mainly from me, here and there. Edited to correct spelling from my Iphone with Siri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 April 21, 2012 yep!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #74 April 21, 2012 Quote What has my head spinning is how the Republicans, who have been hijacked by Christian fundlementalist,now accept a candiate who is Mormon. If it was not for the fact that he was running against Obama, he would be considered the spawn of Satan by most Fundlementalist. ( Many still do) Everyone knows the vast majority of the Republican party is voting against Obama, and not for Romney. If this really makes your head spin then I think you would do well with a deeper understanding of fundamentalist theory of political engagement. Sure, fundamentalist think Mormons are going to hell (frankly, this is a shared trait with more liberal Christians as well--Catholics, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, etc. all rebaptize Mormon converts because they do not consider Mormon baptism as valid in any way) but evangelicals and fundamentalists have been willing for a long time to make alliances off convenience with people who support their social views. Jerry Falwell, who is, you know, kind of the Godfather of Fundamentalist political engagement having started the Moral Majority, said specifically about Mitt in 2006: IQuote have no problem voting for a person who is not of my faith as long as he or she stands with me on the moral and social issues. (Massachusetts governor) Mitt Romney may be a candidate for president. He’s a Mormon. If he’s pro-life, pro-family, I don’t think he’ll have any problem getting the support of evangelical Christians. This was Falwell's position from the beginning on political engagement and he was willing to make common cause with right-to-life Catholics, support candidates like the nominally Presbyterian Reagan, and engage in a host of ways in alliances of convenience."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #75 April 21, 2012 Everyone knows the vast majority of the Republican party is voting against Obama, and not for Romney. this isn't something new you know That is how Obama got elected"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
