Is Some Homophobia Self-Phobia?

[oldwomanc6 60]

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>I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

For most people, the process that includes seeing your first vagina is pretty shocking . . .

True, being born is traumatic But most people don't remember it at all.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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I am not certain the hole in the bulkhead can be plugged.

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[shropshire 0]

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>I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

For most people, the process that includes seeing your first vagina is pretty shocking . . .

We spend 9 months trying to get out and the rest of our lives getting back in

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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True, being born is traumatic But most people don't remember it at all.

Plus, babies have their eyes closed during birth....

[kelpdiver 2]

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Which you then twisted and turned to make it fit your template. If you go back and read what I said, I was referring to special laws to protect someone for being a "Consrvative". It was in response to gays demanding special laws to protect them because they are gay. I would normally say nice try but in this case, it wasn't.

poor back pedalling.

uptight catholics are Conservatives. And they wanted special protection.

Meanwhile gays want the same right you and I enjoy - to marry someone we love. You have to work much harder to twist that into special laws.

Supporters of Prop 8 have tried to get courts to allow donors to remain anonymous, another example of seeking special protection.

[Coreece 190]

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I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHJk5g9DOE

Good stuff eh?

I remember the first time I saw a porno video...I was stunned, mouth agape. I had no Idea the penis actually went inside the vagina. I thought it just slid over the top of the slit, like a hot dog in a bun...I just assumed the sperm would "swim" through the pubic hairs and eventually do whatever it had to do...

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btw, the video above is safe for work as long as your company allows watching cartoons on youtube while on the clock...

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[Marinus 0]

LOL, family guy is the best!

When I accidentally found the porn stash of an older brother I was shocked. Till then I assumed it looked the same down there in women. So a vagina looked like a mayor mutilation to me. As they say: first impressions last, and there was no hormonally driven change of mind after that.

[Squeak 17]

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>I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

For most people, the process that includes seeing your first vagina is pretty shocking . . .

if you're referring to birth, you missed. New born dont have visual acuity or focus.

But you probably knew that and posted the not remotely funny post anyway

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[Squeak 17]

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I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHJk5g9DOE

Good stuff eh?

I remember the first time I saw a porno video...I was stunned, mouth agape. I had no Idea the penis actually went inside the vagina. I thought it just slid over the top of the slit, like a hot dog in a bun...I just assumed the sperm would "swim" through the pubic hairs and eventually do whatever it had to do...

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btw, the video above is safe for work as long as your company allows watching cartoons on youtube while on the clock...

Funny as that is, it pretty much sums up the USA attitude to sex and violence in film and TV

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[Coreece 190]

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I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHJk5g9DOE

Good stuff eh?

I remember the first time I saw a porno video...I was stunned, mouth agape. I had no Idea the penis actually went inside the vagina. I thought it just slid over the top of the slit, like a hot dog in a bun...I just assumed the sperm would "swim" through the pubic hairs and eventually do whatever it had to do...

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btw, the video above is safe for work as long as your company allows watching cartoons on youtube while on the clock...

Funny as that is, it pretty much sums up the USA attitude to sex and violence in film and TV

That's just a lame misconception...

There's plenty of hard sex and gory violence in film...no so much on tv, but I think they're both equally portrayed. Both have their limits when it comes to what is considered acceptable for a general audience.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[billvon 3,116]

>Plus, babies have their eyes closed during birth....

Ours didn't - at least until he took a look at me . . .

[Squeak 17]

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Funny as that is, it pretty much sums up the USA attitude to sex and violence in film and TV

That's just a lame misconception...

There's plenty of hard sex and gory violence in film...no so much on tv, but I think they're both equally portrayed. Both have their limits when it comes to what is considered acceptable for a general audience.
It;s no misconception, i have been to the states about 10 times seen it 1st hand every single time.

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[Coreece 190]

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Funny as that is, it pretty much sums up the USA attitude to sex and violence in film and TV

That's just a lame misconception...

There's plenty of hard sex and gory violence in film...no so much on tv, but I think they're both equally portrayed. Both have their limits when it comes to what is considered acceptable for a general audience.

It;s no misconception, i have been to the states about 10 times seen it 1st hand every single time.

Your lackluster appeal to personal experience and delusion is not an argument. We can most certainly fulfill all of your personally perverted pleasures, if that's what you so desire.

We also have sex education for your children, but beware - we will expel them if they dare bring a squirt gun to class....but don't worry, I'll be pushing for gun education and certification in schools in the near future to balance it all out.

...btw, I'm not disagreeing that the video I posted was poking at your misconception.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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Funny as that is, it pretty much sums up the USA attitude to sex and violence in film and TV

That's just a lame misconception...

There's plenty of hard sex and gory violence in film...no so much on tv, but I think they're both equally portrayed. Both have their limits when it comes to what is considered acceptable for a general audience.

It;s no misconception, i have been to the states about 10 times seen it 1st hand every single time.

Your lackluster appeal to personal experience and delusion is not an argument. We can most certainly fulfill all of your personally perverted pleasures, if that's what you so desire.

We also have sex education for your children, but beware - we will expel them if they dare bring a squirt gun to class....but don't worry, I'll be pushing for gun education and certification in schools in the near future to balance it all out.

...btw, I'm not disagreeing that the video I posted was poking at your misconception.

dude your TV bleeps our "God damned", let alone naked bodies., but they readily show shlock and horror and people getting their heads blown off.

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[Coreece 190]

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dude your TV bleeps our "God damned",

Hmmm...I hear it many times on TV, but I lived here my whole life and don't suffer from the ignorance that comes with sporadic and limited visits to this country.

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let alone naked bodies., but they readily show shlock and horror and people getting their heads blown off.

While our standards for a general audience do not typically include full frontal nudity, it does not eliminate partial nudity, sexual references, sexual situations, gently love scenes, rough sex, nor rape.

I'm not so sure why people like you are so hard up to see T&A on TV...just rent a p-13/R-rated movie, porno, or subscribe to a premium service.

There is also plenty of violence, but like sex there are also limits to what is considered appropriate for a general audience. Blowing someone's head off is implied, just like anal sex or rape is. There really is no reason to display the graphic details. If you want to see violent hardcore gore, there are plenty of other outlets that you're free to choose to satiate your depravity.

Now I'm going to appeal to my own personal experience of childhood sexuality in order to accentuate my point and attempt to partially bring this discussion back on topic:

When I was young - like 5 years old or so, before the FCC regulated the time that sexual content could be broadcasted, I'd be watching my morning cartoons. Unbeknownst to my mother, I'd surf channels and there it was - full nudity stripteasing on HBO. (just a side note - there was a similar situation where a man caught his young son also watching similar content. This instance is what prompted the FCC to regulate the times explicit sexual content could be broadcasted.)

Now, it kindergarten I began to act out what I saw on tv. I would make out with chicks at nap time. When I'd go home I would engage in more sexual activities with a girl down the street that were even more explicit. I wanted to get here sister involved so as she walked by I just pulled down her pants...she told her dad and he reamed my ass. I began to feel ashamed and realized that this was not appropriate behavior. I became very anxious and tormented with all kinds of sick sexual thoughts even homosexual thoughts...I used to cry and have to count myself to sleep because these graphic images would just race through my mind. It wasn't until it became so unbearable that I told my parents what I was going through - like 7 years old or so, I think. They educated and comforted me and my anxiety ceased.

All three of the girls I messed around with grew up to be teen mothers at around 15 years old. Now I do know of 2 other girl involved in similar sexual activity at a young age and they both grew up to be doctors. They seemed to have lived a normal life despite this instance so there are obviously other factors involved, most likely maturity to handle the sexuality and good parenting. My parents took action and diffused the situation and I remained a virgin till I was 17/18?

To get this somewhat back on topic, I do believe things like violence, guns and sex should be hidden until children are educated and mature enough to handle these situations in the proper context/environment without perverting them. Excuse me if I'm not willing to compromise that just because you wanna see some more tits and ass.

Now are you gonna provide something substantial or continue to soil the forum with your verbal Hershey squirts?

Are you gonna specifically address any of my comments in the previous posts? What about the idea that schools openly teach sex but deem chocolate grenades and water pistols as grounds for expulsion. This situation alone seriously exposes your lame misconception to be just that, a lame misconception - a misconception that is typically used by some liberals who feel that conservative Christians threaten their perverted world view.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Marinus 0]

I think there's much truth in the statement that American cinema glorifies violence but deals with the subject sex in a very awkward manner. Sex is usually only implied (i.e. the screen fades on a cuddling couple) or it is portrayed in a completely unrealistic way. This is so standard for American cinema that, for example certain HBO-shows which portray sex much more realistic, are often called "un-American".

There's much criticism from Americans about the gratuitous sex, in for example, HBO's "Game of Thrones", while it's pretty tame for Western standards. Besides: most of the sex in it isn't gratuitous but serves the story-line. It's not that, for example, the Euros portray sex to get off on it, for that we have hot butt-sex porn, but sex is part of life and should be portrayed when the story is about sex.

Mind you that an honest portrayal of sex usually doesn't result in horny eye-candy. Certain details are usually, but not always left out. There's usually no erect penises or visible penetration for example, But I've seen a graphic male on male blow-job in Dutch cinema, followed by a less graphic male on male gang rape a couple of scenes later. And that was a decent feature film. (Brokeback Mountain eat your heart out, the only controversial thing in that flick was the implied ultra-fast insertion of a penis is an unprepped anus without the use of lube)

[billvon 3,116]

>I think there's much truth in the statement that American cinema
>glorifies violence but deals with the subject sex in a very awkward manner.

Agreed. We even see that here. Look at how boobies drive people into fits - and then look what happens when women try to breastfeed in public (which, after all, is what those things are for.)

Example - a recent issue of Baby Talk magazine (an informational magazine for new mothers) had a picture of a kid nursing on the cover. They got email: "I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine." "I immediately turned the magazine face down." "Gross!" "I shredded it. A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing. [My 13 year old] didn't need to see that."

And this is on the cover of a magazine aimed at breastfeeding mothers.

[Coreece 190]

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I think there's much truth in the statement that American cinema glorifies violence but deals with the subject sex in a very awkward manner. Sex is usually only implied

Did you even read my post? There is plenty of sex in american cinema...tits, ass, vagina...even bruce willis's penis, you happy now?

Now TV is a bit different. Violence, like sex, is implied at a certain point...they show the gun placed against someone's head and then they cut to the shooter as he pulls the trigger...they don't show the gore...

you people across the pond are hardly qualified to school me on american culture...get real would ya?

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[Remster 30]

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There is plenty of sex in american cinema...tits, ass, vagina...even bruce willis's penis, you happy now?

No, there is not.

Remster

[Coreece 190]

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Look at how boobies drive people into fits

These people are a small minority...

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and then look what happens when women try to breastfeed in public (which, after all, is what those things are for.)

My penis is for urination and ejaculation, but some wouldn't wanna see me do that in public.

My anus is for excreting waste but you wouldn't want me taking a shit in the bushes at the county park...or maybe you would, who knows anymore...

Apparently the french just let their dogs shit all over the place and are to lazy to pick it up...no thanks.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Coreece 190]

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There is plenty of sex in american cinema...tits, ass, vagina...even bruce willis's penis, you happy now?

No, there is not.

You must be one horny bastard...not enough porno for you at the video store? How about online? - not enough there either?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Remster 30]

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There is plenty of sex in american cinema...tits, ass, vagina...even bruce willis's penis, you happy now?

No, there is not.

You must be one horny bastard...not enough porno for you at the video store? How about online? - not enough there either?

If you want to include porn (which I think no one here was doing until now) than even then, the US way more conservative.

But really, I think everyone here was talking about mainstream media and cinema.

Remster

[billvon 3,116]

>>Look at how boobies drive people into fits

>These people are a small minority...

Offer a topless picture of someone to the Bonfire forum and see whether only a small minority say yes. (And see how enthusiastically they say it!)

>My penis is for urination and ejaculation, but some wouldn't wanna see
>me do that in public.

I agree that some would not want to see that. It depends on the group. If you're on a long hike, and a few guys go off the trail to pee, for many people it's not a big deal. For some it's a big honking screaming deal, which is odd. That's what it's for, and there's no bathroom nearby. But a lot of people have been conditioned by our media that breasts and penises are for sex only, and any appearance of either is a cause for excitement.

[Coreece 190]

ok and fair enough...but there is still plenty of sex in american cinema.

besides, if you have all the hardcore/softcore porn and red shoe diary skinimax, why is everyone bitching about more tit? Simple, they're just trying to find trivial bullshit they can use to denigrate conservative christians...it's lame and pathetic.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...