RonD1120 62 #176 April 10, 2012 QuoteThe reason I write in the SC is mainly entertainment, so don't worry too much about my emotional distress. In fact my homosexuality doesn't cause any distress whatsoever, not even because of rejection by others, because in my nick of the woods homosexuals are completely integrated in society and given the full set of rights any human should have. I didn't even have to protest for those rights, they practically handed them to me on a silver platter when I turned 18. As Meso points out, there's no logic behind the "homosexuality is a choice" nonsense. While one can choose to not act on one's sexual orientation, it's not possible to choose one's SO. There's some arguments to abstain from homosex, that mainly revolve around the Bronze Age idea that an invisible man in the sky doesn't like homosex. I really need something better than that to quit sex. Quote Again I say, MAN UP. I did that when I was 14 and came out of the closet. And btw: I think I could learn you a thing or two about manning up after personal loss and tragedy. OK, I'll go with that. I read your above response as honest and taking responsibility. I do not comprehend your last statement however.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #177 April 10, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Same as above, what is your payoff for debating with me? Probably about the same as your payoff for debating with them? i typed up a whole bunch of BS in reply to him then thought better of it. It's pointless and i really dont need to hear the bullshit self rationalisations of the myopic Relax mate, I wasn't going to waste my time giving you any. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #178 April 10, 2012 QuoteIt is against what is taught in the Bible. I find it repulsive. Ah, so it really has nothing to do with responsibility, morality, or decency. You just think its gross. Where's that honesty you keep talking about? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #179 April 10, 2012 >I want to have sex with all sorts of women but I choose not to because I >am married and I have responsibility. Please fill in the following blank: I want to have sex with my wife because _______ . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #180 April 10, 2012 QuoteI want to have sex with my wife because _______ . ...her sister is out of town? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #181 April 10, 2012 QuoteI am no more offended by a gay showing interest in me than I am by a woman to whom I am not attracted showing similar interest. If anything, I am somewhat flattered that someone who is a good judge of male attractiveness considers me worthy of attention, and I have yet to have anyone take it badly to find out that I am strictly a breeder. My son gets hugs and kisses from both parents, all his grandparents and all his uncles and aunts. What will be his orientation when he hits puberty is not my call, but I doubt if the love and affection of male family members will be a threat to future heterosexuality. If he turns out to be gay, he turns out to be gay, and I will not love him one iota less either way. Who does or does not sleep with whom is generally not an issue as far as I can tell. Even if I was a real Lothario, the actual percentage of women with whom I interacted that I actually bedded would be zero to significant digits; operationally speaking, it is irrelevant if a woman is straight, lesbian, bi or celibate, regardless of how attractive I might find her (my wife is an exception). Similarly, whether a man is straight, gay, bi or saving himself for marriage is his problem. I am much more concerned with someone's honesty, reliability, intelligence and initiative than their sexual orientation when all is said and done. All told, I prefer an environment where being straight or gay is not considered a big deal. Being around people who get worked up over such things gets old fast. Well said winsor, agree completely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #182 April 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteIt is against what is taught in the Bible. I find it repulsive. Ah, so it really has nothing to do with responsibility, morality, or decency. You just think its gross. Where's that honesty you keep talking about? In the first person statements of my belief system. And, I believe that homosexuality has a lot to do with morality and decency. I can explain homosexuality to my granddaughter but I would not take her to a gay rights parade. At least not the ones that I have seen in the news.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #183 April 10, 2012 Quote>I want to have sex with all sorts of women but I choose not to because I >am married and I have responsibility. Please fill in the following blank: I want to have sex with my wife because _______ . She asks me to and it makes her feel good. When she feels good she cooks food for me and washes my dirty clothes. Oh, and she enjoys doing housework more.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #184 April 10, 2012 QuoteI find it repulsive. As luck would have it, I'm mean-spirited enough to slightly enjoy the fact that my marriage offends people like you. As for the Christianity-based arguments against same-sex marriage: the bible doesn't say anything about gay-marriage, besides that marriage isn't exactly a Christian invention and last but not least, it's beyond me why any self-respecting homosexual would want to marry anywhere near a church. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #185 April 10, 2012 QuoteI do not comprehend your last statement however. You told me "to man up". I don't think you're in the position to tell me "to man up". I won't bore you with my life story, but I'm kind of an expert in the field of "manning up". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #186 April 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteI do not comprehend your last statement however. You told me "to man up". I don't think you're in the position to tell me "to man up". I won't bore you with my life story, but I'm kind of an expert in the field of "manning up". Oh my error. Your sentence structure threw me off. I did not read it closely. I get your drift now.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #187 April 10, 2012 My English can be a bit "off" at times. Don't let my almost flawless spelling fool you, that's not me that's the spell check. I'm really not that fluent in English. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #188 April 10, 2012 QuoteWhy the hell would someone turn down vagina by choice. well.... http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/how-a-gay-man-sees-a-vagina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #189 April 10, 2012 QuoteMy English can be a bit "off" at times. Don't let my almost flawless spelling fool you, that's not me that's the spell check. I'm really not that fluent in English. I am with you. I just read too fast. You are one of the more intelligent and articulate posters here in the SC.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #190 April 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhy the hell would someone turn down vagina by choice. well.... http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/how-a-gay-man-sees-a-vagina Now that's funny. I don't care what church you go to.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #191 April 10, 2012 Quote Quote Why the hell would someone turn down vagina by choice. well.... http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/how-a-gay-man-sees-a-vagina My roommate (who is a straight man) and I talk about sex all the time and he doesn't care I have a boyfriend/I don't care he has a girlfriend and like roommates/friends/brotherly-bros do we talk about sex and everytime he tells me that's exactly how I picture the female vuhjeena Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #192 April 10, 2012 >She asks me to and it makes her feel good. So you have no desires in that direction, and it does not bring you pleasure - it's just a service you perform to make her feel good? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #193 April 10, 2012 Quote>She asks me to and it makes her feel good. So you have no desires in that direction, and it does not bring you pleasure - it's just a service you perform to make her feel good? Yeah, that is pretty much the case.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #194 April 10, 2012 Quote Quote >She asks me to and it makes her feel good. So you have no desires in that direction, and it does not bring you pleasure - it's just a service you perform to make her feel good? Yeah, that is pretty much the case. Makes perfect sense to me. "Ron, do you like gladiator movies? Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?" "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #195 April 10, 2012 Quote Yeah, that is pretty much the case. Makes perfect sense to me. "Ron, do you like gladiator movies? Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?" Uh, no and no.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #196 April 10, 2012 QuoteQuote>She asks me to and it makes her feel good. So you have no desires in that direction, and it does not bring you pleasure - it's just a service you perform to make her feel good? Yeah, that is pretty much the case. Your life sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #197 April 10, 2012 Quote Your life sucks. I don't think so. My perspective is wider than most folks. I had a graduate school professor that referred to our condition as having a multifaceted personality. Other folks have said I am crazy. Whatever, it takes all my time to be me.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #198 April 10, 2012 Generally I really like the female form with all the nice curves and softness and stuff, not in a sexual way, but more like it's a work of art. But the vagina... it's not that I'm disgusted by it, that's not it, but it looks all wrong down there. I kinda have to resist the urge to rush the owner of the vagina to the hospital. I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #199 April 10, 2012 >I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina. For most people, the process that includes seeing your first vagina is pretty shocking . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #200 April 10, 2012 Quote Generally I really like the female form with all the nice curves and softness and stuff, not in a sexual way, but more like it's a work of art. But the vagina... it's not that I'm disgusted by it, that's not it, but it looks all wrong down there. I kinda have to resist the urge to rush the owner of the vagina to the hospital. I think I never totally recovered from the shock of seeing my first vagina. Was that because you saw it from the inside and you didn't know what was on the outside?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
