shropshire 0 #51 April 9, 2012 Quote I hear that retort often and I admit it is catchy. Here is the point. Human beings control their sexual activities. It is normal and natural for a male to seek sexual congress with a female. It does not require a decision. It is normal and natural development. If a male seeks sexual congress with another male it is not normal and natural. Such behavior requires a rational decision process. Now if a homosexual is truly born with abnormal and unnatural desires, isn't it the responsibility of society to help him get treatment? Homosexuality tends to ruin professional careers when it is discovered. It effects the status of a blood donor. It does not procreate. The behavior does not benefit society. Society is ready and willing to provide treatment for congenital birth defects, ADD and ADHD, autism, schizophrenia and other maladies. Why should homosexuality receive special exemption? To the other lurkers, I have no vested interest in your sex life. I don't care who or what you have sex with. The exception is children under the legal age of consent. The latter opens a big problem area with Muslims but that is another topic. In my counseling career I had three clients that were homosexual and wanted to change. I had one desiring psychiatric admission to deal with his sorrow at the loss of his boyfriend. The unknown number of others did not discuss their homosexuality. Professional ethics in counseling require the client to determine the issues to be dealt with not the counselor. Psychiatrists diagnose, counselors guide. #1 I can agree with (in the main) ... people 'can' control their activities but not their wiring! #2 WOW ... just WOW"my mom made me a homosexual" " If I give her the wool, will she make me one too!" (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #52 April 9, 2012 QuoteHomosexuality tends to ruin professional careers when it is discovered *Homophobia* ruins some professional careers. That's becoming rarer these days, but yes, it still happens. QuoteIt effects the status of a blood donor. Really? How? There are no restrictions on me that I'm aware of. QuoteIt does not procreate. My daughter disagrees with that one QuoteThe behavior does not benefit society Self limiting population control is a huge evolutionary benefit. Without the homos, you might not exist at allOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #53 April 9, 2012 Whenever I donate blood one of the questions I am asked is, "Have you ever had sex with a man, even once?" I don't know what happens if you answer yes. If you answer in the affirmative to ingesting aspirin your donation is not accepted.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #54 April 9, 2012 I think hate crime can be overapplied. On the other hand, as yet another flavor of trying to determine the severity of a crime, well -- we already have lots of those. Whether it was deliberate as opposed to accidental, whether it was planned, whether it was (even accidentally) done during the commission of another felony, whether it was in self-defense -- these all change the flavor of killing, even though one party in each case is just as dead. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #55 April 9, 2012 I get it -- male/male homosexuality is bad; female/female homosexuality is kind of hot Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #56 April 9, 2012 Please site an example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #57 April 9, 2012 QuoteNope. How about "hate crime legislation as an example? And we aren't just talking about homosexuality. The purpose of hate crime legislation is to impose additional punishment for crimes that have an impact on a group of people not directly involved with the specific crime. History proves that, from time to time, one group of people will start to persecute and h arras others, and will make it clear that they are doing it because of a difference in religion, race, sexuality, etc. Those crimes are intended to intimidate everyone in the targeted group. Those crimes are used as a tool to create a threatening environment. Those kind of crimes are more harmful to society.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #58 April 9, 2012 Quote>Yep, but we are far less likely to ask for a special status. Exactly. You never hear conservative Christians saying "the US was founded on Christian principles" or demanding, say, Christmas or Sundays off. Has nothing to do with being conservative. You do realize there are many left-wing Christians don't you? You know, like the President? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #59 April 9, 2012 Quote>Yep, but we are far less likely to ask for a special status. Exactly. You never hear conservative Christians saying "the US was founded on Christian principles" or demanding, say, Christmas or Sundays off. And thank you and the others in this thread for making my point that liberals think of people as templates. Pretty "un-Progressive" of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #60 April 9, 2012 Do you really not see the irony in your repeated complaints about liberals stereotyping? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #61 April 9, 2012 Not stereotyping if it's a true observation. This thread has proven it to be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #62 April 9, 2012 Amazing. Will you at least admit that some conservatives (hint, hint) do the exact same thing? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #63 April 9, 2012 Sure. But I don't see many consrvatives wanting laws passed that offer special protection for groups. If you can't see what's wrong with that, I have no intention of spending the next few days putting up with the name calling, hate posts and insults from left wingers. Espescially given the history of unequal protection given here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #64 April 9, 2012 QuoteBut I don't see many consrvatives wanting laws passed that offer special protection for groups. I think bias crime laws are bullshit. I know other "liberals" (by SC standards) who feel the same way. Is it possible that the vast conspiracy of liberals who all think the same way and want to take your freedoms is partly of your own imagining? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #65 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteBut I don't see many consrvatives wanting laws passed that offer special protection for groups. I think bias crime laws are bullshit. I know other "liberals" (by SC standards) who feel the same way. Is it possible that the vast conspiracy of liberals who all think the same way and want to take your freedoms is partly of your own imagining? I present this thread as evidence. I have also noticed that instead of discussing something, that many try and make it about the poster. Pretty much inline with the title of this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #66 April 9, 2012 Quote I get it -- male/male homosexuality is bad; female/female homosexuality is kind of hot Wendy P. I don't know how the Florida Blood Service views lesbianism. There is no qualifying question on the interview questionnaire in that regard. I realize that some males view lesbian encounters as stimulating. From my point of view it is boring. As a side note, the last HIV/AIDS education I attended focused on heterosexual Blacks as the most active group for the spread of the disease.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #67 April 9, 2012 Quote maybe Coreece is a blonde chick named Candy. I think those are just you repressed heterosexual feelings talking...You know you want me babe, just admit it.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #68 April 9, 2012 You still haven't answered my question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #69 April 9, 2012 QuoteYou still haven't answered my question Did you meanQuote...so what happened to me? You made personal choices. In retrospect you never answered my question from several months ago. As a professed Christian, how do you reconcile your lifestyle choice with the New Testament proscriptions against it?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #70 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou still haven't answered my question Did you meanQuote...so what happened to me? You made personal choices. In retrospect you never answered my question from several months ago. As a professed Christian, how do you reconcile your lifestyle choice with the New Testament proscriptions against it? Maybe he's Catholic...they got that confessional thingy you know...3 Hail Mary's, 1 Our Father and all is good...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #71 April 9, 2012 QuoteYou still haven't answered my question Quote...so what happened to me? I think you just watched too much Sponge Bob growing up...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #72 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou still haven't answered my question Did you meanQuote...so what happened to me? You made personal choices. In retrospect you never answered my question from several months ago. As a professed Christian, how do you reconcile your lifestyle choice with the New Testament proscriptions against it? How do you reconcile your lifestyle choices with the NT proscriptions against it? Or are you perfect? eta: the bold is some funny stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #73 April 9, 2012 Quote How do you reconcile your lifestyle choices with the NT proscriptions against it? Or are you perfect? eta: the bold is some funny stuff I admit I am a sinner saved by God's grace through Christ Jesus. I am still waiting for your mature response.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #74 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou still haven't answered my question Did you meanQuote...so what happened to me? You made personal choices. In retrospect you never answered my question from several months ago. As a professed Christian, how do you reconcile your lifestyle choice with the New Testament proscriptions against it? How do you reconcile your lifestyle choices with the NT proscriptions against it? Or are you perfect? Not perfect, and not proud about it either...It's not like I go around having fornication, masturbation, and porno parades...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #75 April 9, 2012 Leave it alone, Johnny. You're going to be late for our secret planning committee meeting on the subversion of moral values if you keep responding. It's your turn to bring the swatches, BTW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQkOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
