RonD1120 62 #276 April 12, 2012 QuoteWow. You're very close to agreeing with the Westboro beliefs, if not their actions. I suggest some deeper reflection on your part. I suggest you examine the subtle difference.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #277 April 12, 2012 QuoteThe homosexual lifestyle creates problems. Choices can be and are made all the time. One of the problems this lifestyle produces is the emergence of whacko groups like the Westboro Baptist Church. They picket and protest at military funerals, enhancing the grief of the family survivors. The reason they exist is because of the move in America to accept homosexual marriage and abortion. Wait, wait, Let me get this straight: You're saying homosexuals are to blame that homophobes are picketing military funerals? Wow, just wow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #278 April 12, 2012 You're obviously much wiser than I, perhaps you can help. Here's my ignorant analysis: Westboro believes God is punishing the US because of our tolerance for homosexuals. They believe that our current problems as a country are because we tolerate homosexuals, and if we didn't, things would be better. You, apparently, believe the same thing. Please explain the subtle difference. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #279 April 12, 2012 Quote The homosexual lifestyle creates problems. No more than any other relationship creates. Quote One of the problems this lifestyle produces is the emergence of whacko groups like the Westboro Baptist Church. They picket and protest at military funerals, enhancing the grief of the family survivors. The reason they exist is because of the move in America to accept homosexual marriage and abortion. Hahaha, wow... Just, wow... So then God is to blame for any militant extremist activity from other Christians, because if the religion didn't exist they wouldn't be able to use it as an outlet for their crazy. Hell, why we are at it. Let's blame the Holocaust on the existence of the Jews! If they hadn't been there, that problem wouldn't have existed! It's totally their fault! Quote A natural part of my thinking is, this problem would be less if the moral compass of my country was re-established and our course corrected. You mean back to the good old days right? Where we weren't all tainted by the disgusting and unacceptable things like homosexuality, or blacks being able to vote, or woman's rights... OH IF ONLY we were back in those good ol days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #280 April 12, 2012 To you and DanG: In what direction to you think our moral compass is pointing? America is heading for much deeper problems. Our society is sick. Some people see the problem and some people do not.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #281 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe homosexual lifestyle creates problems. Choices can be and are made all the time. One of the problems this lifestyle produces is the emergence of whacko groups like the Westboro Baptist Church. They picket and protest at military funerals, enhancing the grief of the family survivors. The reason they exist is because of the move in America to accept homosexual marriage and abortion. Wait, wait, Let me get this straight: You're saying homosexuals are to blame that homophobes are picketing military funerals? Wow, just wow. I am going discontinue replying to you because you do not live in the U.S.A. You and your lifestyle is not part of our problem. No disrespect intended with my decision, it is just time to focus on my country.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #282 April 12, 2012 I'm more concerned with my own moral compass. You should be, too. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #283 April 12, 2012 QuoteI'm more concerned with my own moral compass. You should be, too. At my age it is much broader. In this forum I type with liberals. In my physical life I work with and associate with active conservatives. This forum helps strengthen my foundation.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #284 April 12, 2012 QuoteI am going discontinue replying to you because you do not live in the U.S.A. You and your lifestyle is not part of our problem. No disrespect intended with my decision, it is just time to focus on my country. Just thought you should know that it's not the moral compass in America that's different. That's pretty consistent globally, the thing that sets it apart from other countries is that other countries tend to not be so prejudice towards these so-called moral dilemmas. Where you and many Americans fear the pride and outward display shown by homosexuals, many other countries embrace their freedom to make their own choices. You can stop replying to me too then since I'm in South Africa, but we have an even more religious, conservative Christian state than America does (around 80%) and the feelings towards homosexuals here echo that of yours in general it feels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #285 April 12, 2012 QuoteAt my age it is much broader. In this forum I type with liberals. In my physical life I work with and associate with active conservatives. This forum helps strengthen my foundation. Strangely, it does the same for me. I was much more conservative before I started reading all the hate, bias, and lack of concern for one's fellow humans displayed by some conservatives here. As a Christian, are you more concerned with how Jesus will judge you at the end, or with what happens to America after you are gone? I'm no theologian, but I believe the common Christian perspective would be to make sure your own spiritual house is in order first. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #286 April 12, 2012 Quote Strangely, it does the same for me. I was much more conservative before I started reading all the hate, bias, and lack of concern for one's fellow humans displayed by some conservatives here. As a Christian, are you more concerned with how Jesus will judge you at the end, or with what happens to America after you are gone? I'm no theologian, but I believe the common Christian perspective would be to make sure your own spiritual house is in order first. I am a sinner. My relationship with Jesus is growing. I do not fear death.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #287 April 12, 2012 QuoteI am a sinner. My relationship with Jesus is growing. I do not fear death. But apparently you fear homosexuality. And please, before you get all defensive about the word fear, you're outright stated that you fear where the US is headed, and you apparently blame homosexuality, among other things. If that's not a fear of homosexuality, I don't know what is. I'd like to get back to your statements about how the homosexuals are to blame for the Westboro protests. Your never explained the subtle difference between your beliefs and theirs. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #288 April 12, 2012 Quoteit is just time to focus on my country. And so do I, by pointing out that I'm from a country where gays have been given full rights and are fully integrated in society. The doom and gloom that should be the consequence of it, predicted by the likes of you, never happened. The total disruption of sexual morals never happened. The only thing that changed is that gays now have the option to marry. I'll also point out it's not only a couple of Americans that have identified gays as the harbingers of the apocalypse. Actually, we Europeans have a long tradition of blaming gays (and Jews, and Gypsies and so on) for all kinds of societal problems. [attention Godwin imminent] There were all kinds of Solutions (many of them Final) to the Gayish Question: from ordinary correctional beatings to the anal insertion of red hot pokers. Surprisingly it turned out that it didn't help society at all and didn't even get rid of the gays. I think you're above all scared that at one point or another I'll start making sense and that's why you ignore me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #289 April 12, 2012 Does God love me even though I "lay with other men"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #290 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteI am a sinner. My relationship with Jesus is growing. I do not fear death. But apparently you fear homosexuality. And please, before you get all defensive about the word fear, you're outright stated that you fear where the US is headed, and you apparently blame homosexuality, among other things. If that's not a fear of homosexuality, I don't know what is. I'd like to get back to your statements about how the homosexuals are to blame for the Westboro protests. Your never explained the subtle difference between your beliefs and theirs. It is spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #291 April 12, 2012 QuoteDoes God love me even though I "lay with other men"? Search the NT Scriptures. The answer lies therein.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #292 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteDoes God love me even though I "lay with other men"? Search the NT Scriptures. The answer lies therein. Do you think God loves me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #293 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteDoes God love me even though I "lay with other men"? Search the NT Scriptures. The answer lies therein. Do you think God loves me? Yes.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #294 April 12, 2012 Quoteignorance that comes with sporadic and limited visits to this country. Pot. Kettle. Black. I wasn't the one who started criticizing other countries sexuality or comparing they're view of sexuality to ours...It's you people who are preoccupied with american life and feel the need to talk shit about us 24/7... edit... Sorry, I meant their, not they're...it's funny how that happens when you type to fast, lol....I hate that.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #295 April 12, 2012 Are you afraid to say what you think? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #296 April 12, 2012 QuoteAre you afraid to say what you think? ??? I think/believe it is spiritual warfare.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #297 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteWow. You're very close to agreeing with the Westboro beliefs, if not their actions. I suggest some deeper reflection on your part. I suggest you examine the subtle difference. To most people the Westboro Baptist Church beliefs are very offensive and idiotic. If your belief structure is only subtly different from theirs, then I do indeed urge you to reflect a little deeper. I wonder what your fellow patriot guard riders would think if you told them your beliefs or only subtly different from those of the Westboro clan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #298 April 12, 2012 Quote I wonder what your fellow patriot guard riders would think if you told them your beliefs or only subtly different from those of the Westboro clan. In my tribe we discuss these differences all the time. Over 90% are Christian and several are ordained ministers.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #299 April 12, 2012 Quote If we want to see sex to get off, there's plenty of porn available, so why, exactly, would we need to watch feature films for the sexual content? Exactly, so why spend the extra time and money on film and "no-name" nude talent for extended sex scenes that do nothing to enhance the plot and minimize the audience on top of that...Also, big name actors is what bring people in, and often those actors may not feel comfortable exposing themselves. Media is one of Americas last big industries, we can't survive without it and we're learning to maximize profits...We basically have a base public standard for general broadcasting that appeals to all people with outlets for various genres that appeal to smaller groups. I don't see anything wrong with that. Quote A couple of days ago there was an television program on testicle cancer, and because we can handle it, it featured non-sexual frontal male nudity. I think we could be a little more open it that regard, but we do have educational public broadcasting where they don't hesitate to show things like live births or jungle titties in Africa...for the most part people here aren't offended by that. I went to Catholic school were we learn about sex in science class. We watched videos of live births, and there it was, a women with her legs a spread - a gaping vagina as if it were to swallow me whole...we were all 11-12 years old...nobody bitched and moaned. There is a time and a place. Quote We all know what half a second of nipple does in the States Again, this is just a small minority of people who were offended and it all got blown out of proportion on multiple levels. We've also learned how to make money off controversy as well. The relationship of the people with the FCC has been notoriously tumultuous. All it takes is a few people to be offended by something and the FCC is all up in the broadcasters shit. Do you really think they give a shit about the children? Hell no, they're worried about lining the governments pockets with fines and taxes... Government is very much involved in the affairs of Hollywood. When I worked in CA the FBI was constantly and literally looking over our shoulder...and this was a private company! I had to go through a series of visual checkpoints, then card access checkpoints, then card-and-thumb print access check points and this only got me into the core of the building where I worked...I still had to got through another series of checkpoints to get to the main vault that housed almost every film and TV show from the major studios, where I was only 1 of 3 people who had access, and 2 of us had to be present to get in using simultaneous entry methods...I thought it was overkill, but the FBI didn't mess around. A blockbuster hit was once stolen months before theatrical release and sold to Inda and China...We lost hundreds of Millions. Furthermore, sex is actually a big business in this country...by keeping it 'hidden' we keep the demand high and can charge premium prices. Capitalism isn't always a good thing and tends to hinder the advancement of society in general. We could make cars that last a lifetime and computers that don't need to be upgraded every 2 months but there is no money in that. edited... Jeeze, my spelling and grammar are terrible. I'm just preoccupied with other things right now and rushing.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #300 April 12, 2012 QuoteQuote I wonder what your fellow patriot guard riders would think if you told them your beliefs or only subtly different from those of the Westboro clan. In my tribe we discuss these differences all the time. Over 90% are Christian and several are ordained ministers. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to "protect" people from a group you mostly agree with? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
