masterrig 1 #26 April 2, 2012 You bet! There used to be a popular bumper sticker around the Amarillo area, back in the late 70's and early 80's... "If, you don't like it here... take I-40". Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #27 April 2, 2012 Quote You bet! There used to be a popular bumper sticker around the Amarillo area, back in the late 70's and early 80's... "If, you don't like it here... take I-40". I was in Amarillo in the late 70s. Didn't like it. Took I-40. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,506 #28 April 2, 2012 Quote Quote You bet! There used to be a popular bumper sticker around the Amarillo area, back in the late 70's and early 80's... "If, you don't like it here... take I-40". I was in Amarillo in the late 70s. Didn't like it. Took I-40. How the hell did you wind up in Chicago???? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texascrw 1 #29 April 2, 2012 Chuck, I remember those times. We had a lot of out of work union auto workers come down here. When they found out you didn't get maximum wages for minimum work, they went back home. The Dallas area bumper sticker told them to take I-30 back north. Texas first! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #30 April 2, 2012 Quote Quote You bet! There used to be a popular bumper sticker around the Amarillo area, back in the late 70's and early 80's... "If, you don't like it here... take I-40". I was in Amarillo in the late 70s. Didn't like it. Took I-40. Ya' gotta be tough! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #31 April 2, 2012 Quote Quote Quote You bet! There used to be a popular bumper sticker around the Amarillo area, back in the late 70's and early 80's... "If, you don't like it here... take I-40". I was in Amarillo in the late 70s. Didn't like it. Took I-40. How the hell did you wind up in Chicago???? I-40 to I-44 to I-55... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #32 April 2, 2012 It was good times! The Dallas area has really exploded in population. Little ol' farm communities are huge suburbs of Dallas - Fort Worth. Last time I was in that area, I didn't recognise it. Same for Austin, San Antonio. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #33 April 2, 2012 QuoteDon't silencers reduce the effective range of a weapon? Why would you use one while hunting? A bullet needs to be loaded slower than the speed of sound for a silencer to work very well. I imagine they would still quiet a weapon down a lot, but a high powered rifle would still be making a loud noise, silencer or not. Maybe someone can add to this. I'm no expert on silencers. I have a friend who has one on his AR-15. He says it sounds like about like a regular 22.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 April 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't silencers reduce the effective range of a weapon? Why would you use one while hunting? A bullet needs to be loaded slower than the speed of sound for a silencer to work very well. I imagine they would still quiet a weapon down a lot, but a high powered rifle would still be making a loud noise, silencer or not. Maybe someone can add to this. I'm no expert on silencers. I have a friend who has one on his AR-15. He says it sounds like about like a regular 22.... The one I tried was louder than that however I no longer needed hearing protection for just a few rounds"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creep0321 0 #35 April 3, 2012 Quote Maybe someone can add to this. I'm no expert on silencers. I have a friend who has one on his AR-15. He says it sounds like about like a regular 22.... I use a suppressor on my M-4 at work for certain situations. Come in really handy during CQB and room clearing type work. While it doesn't completely silence the round, it eliminates the harsh noise, making it comfortable for a team to fire in close proximity to each other in enclosed spaces. And like I said even though it doesn't silence the round, it makes it EXTREMELY hard to identify the point of origin on a supressed weapon and any distance, it reduces sound significantly and hides most, if not all visual muzzel flash.Jack of all trades. Military Free Fall Jumpmaster. USA Static-line Jumpmaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #36 April 3, 2012 QuoteIs it not a good idea if firearms are being used, that people in the general area of the shooting should know? Not really a big enough deal to worry about. Many European Country's think using a suppressor is the 'polite, responsible' thing to do. QuoteSo you think suppressor's are a fine idea for hunters? Yes, I think they are a great idea for hunters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #37 April 3, 2012 QuoteMaybe someone can add to this. I'm no expert on silencers. I have a friend who has one on his AR-15. He says it sounds like about like a regular 22.... You have to slow the bullet down below supersonic or you will still get the 'crack'. You can be several hundred feet from a weapon and not really hear the report, but you sure as hell will hear the crack as it whizzes past you. In a 9mm for example a normal target load will be ~5 grains of powder and a 115 grain projectile. To slow it down below supersonic you would load ~3.7 grains of powder with a 147 grain projectile. A 9mm loaded like this and suppressed is very quiet. It also is not as effective. Suppressors are great for hunting, but most people have big misconceptions about the effectiveness of a suppressor. Most of this is because people have only seen them on TV and associate them with assassins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #38 April 3, 2012 Quote Suppressors are great for hunting, but most people have big misconceptions about the effectiveness of a suppressor. Most of this is because people have only seen them on TV and associate them with assassins. suppressors are incredibly effective on a stage gun where nothing is fired, and the FX crew create the sound. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #39 April 3, 2012 QuoteA 9mm loaded like this and suppressed is very quiet. It also is not as effective. It is at close range. Muhahahahaa! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #40 April 4, 2012 QuoteIt is at close range. Muhahahahaa! Not really. Notice I said, "It is also not AS effective" A projectile that has been slowed down to limit its sound, will not be as effective as one that was not slowed down. Which is not to say that it would still not be lethal but to say it would not be as effective would still be 100% correct. There was a case of a swat guy using an MP5SD and trying to shoot a bad guy through a window. He hit the BG COM, but the BG didn't drop and was able to execute several hostages before they could breach the door, enter the room, and drop him with the same weapon. Muhahahahaa! Like I said, lots of common misconceptions about suppressors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
