Coreece 190 #26 March 27, 2012 QuoteIf it really did go off, we're probably talking about a cheapie gun. More affordable, but not so reliable or well built. Perhaps all our felon could afford to buy. It was a 22...He says he found it between the buildings.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #27 March 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf it really did go off, we're probably talking about a cheapie gun. More affordable, but not so reliable or well built. Perhaps all our felon could afford to buy. It was a 22...He says he found it between the buildings. Are rimfire rounds like the 22 easier to set off inadvertently? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 March 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf it really did go off, we're probably talking about a cheapie gun. More affordable, but not so reliable or well built. Perhaps all our felon could afford to buy. It was a 22...He says he found it between the buildings. Are rimfire rounds like the 22 easier to set off inadvertently? Outside of a weapon? Yes - the primer is more exposed, being in the rim. In a junk gun (as opposed to a better made gun)? Yes, making the large presumption that the junk gun doesn't have any sort of firing pin block. Of course, that *also* means that the kid jumping on the bed somehow managed to hit the hammer of a weapon lying on it's side, or somehow trapped/pulled the trigger, both while the rest of the gun didn't move. Story keeps getting fishier and fishier...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #29 March 28, 2012 Richochet is amazing."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 March 28, 2012 .... and there was a round chambered (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #31 March 29, 2012 QuoteAre rimfire rounds like the 22 easier to set off inadvertently? When in a gun? I'd say no. The only way a modern gun is going to fire is if the trigger is pulled. So basically.... No modern firearm *accidentally* discharges. The trigger manipulation might have been an accident, but the gun didn't misfire.... It fired when the trigger was pulled. Now take an older gun, like a revolver from 1860 to say 1930 and that didn't have a hammer block safety or a transfer bar. If the hammer was down on a loaded chamber, then hitting the hammer hard enough could have caused the round to fire. Even then it would have to be quite the hit. Cowboys often carried the gun on an empty chamber... thus making a 5 shooter really only a 4 shooter. Same thing could happen to an older hammer fired semi auto like a 1911. But modern firearms have internal safeties that protect the firing pin unless the trigger has been pulled. So I am skeptical every time someone says the gun 'misfired'. The only true misfire I have ever seen was on a belt fed full auto SAW. And the only reason that happened was due to the chamber being so hot from all the use that the bullet 'cooked off'. And in this case the bullet just exploded and threw some shrapnel at the operator (on a SAW the bullet does not go into the chamber until bolt picks it up and shoves it in, the bullet is hit by the firing pin milliseconds after it is chambered). I feel the same way about CYPRES 'misfires'. If a guy loses track of altitude and pulls at 1100 feet and the CYPRES fired... I don't consider that a 'misfire'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #32 March 31, 2012 Quote Don't need anyone to pull the trigger. www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/5-year-old_girl_jumping_on_bed.html The gun would have to be cocked if it was a single action. Double action would need the trigger pulled. I hope that this Chicago resident didn't leave a cocked pistol under their bed. Even if it was a cocked firing mechanism like a Glock, you would still need to have the finger on the trigger as seen in the video below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_3Ihpq9T4 I can see a bullet hitting the girl if the residents living on the floor below them got into a domestic dispute. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites