kallend 2,182 #1 March 19, 2012 www.iwatchnews.org/2012/03/19/8423/grading-nation-how-accountable-your-state... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #2 March 19, 2012 They must not have included Chicago city politics in this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 March 19, 2012 Too bad Washington DC isn't a State or it would have been rated the most corrupt place in the country. I'm not talking about the Federal Government either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #4 March 19, 2012 QuoteThey must not have included Chicago city politics in this! Last time I checked, Chicago was not a state.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #5 March 19, 2012 QuoteToo bad Washington DC isn't a State or it would have been rated the most corrupt place in the country. I'm not talking about the Federal Government either. Tell it to mnealtx. He believes DC to be a state.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #6 March 19, 2012 QuoteThey must not have included Chicago city politics in this! If you read both the article and the study upon which it's based (which is linked in the article), they each specifically discuss both Chicago and Illinois. In fact, the word "Chicago" is part of the title of the published study. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #7 March 19, 2012 Are you trying to be deceitful with your title? Your link is about how accountable a state is (not how corrupt it is)."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #8 March 19, 2012 Catchy title, eh?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #9 March 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteThey must not have included Chicago city politics in this! Last time I checked, Chicago was not a state. No kidding! It was a commentary on Chicago politcs. But thank you for stating the obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #10 March 19, 2012 Quote Catchy title, eh? Nope. Deceitful title ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #11 March 19, 2012 QuoteQuote Catchy title, eh? Nope. Deceitful title ... Nonsense. There's a big graphic early in the article, entitled: "What is your state's risk of corruption?" The article is clearly about the correlation between lack of accountability and corruption. Now, since you're popping a major boner about the OP's use of editorial interpretation in the thread title, rather than just re-quoting the article's title verbatim, note that the article itself is based on a University of Illinois study entitled, "Chicago and Illinois, Leading the Pack in Corruption". Yet the article itself has a completely different title; and nowhere in the article is the title to the actual study repeated. So I guess that makes the author of the article deceitful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #12 March 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Catchy title, eh? Nope. Deceitful title ... Nonsense. There's a big graphic early in the article, entitled: "What is your state's risk of corruption?" The article is clearly about the correlation between lack of accountability and corruption. Now, since you're popping a major boner about the OP's use of editorial interpretation in the thread title, rather than just re-quoting the article's title verbatim, note that the article itself is based on a University of Illinois study entitled, "Chicago and Illinois, Leading the Pack in Corruption". Yet the article itself has a completely different title; and nowhere in the article is the title to the actual study repeated. Minnesota is ranked a D+ and yet according to the link: QuoteHigh-profile cases of corruption in the state are relatively rare, and modestly low grade as measured against scandals elsewhere. Illinois is ranked C and yet according to the link: QuoteIn a study released on Feb. 15 by the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Illinois Institute for Government and Public Affairs —which ranked the per capita number of government appointees, employees, and others convicted of public corruption— Illinois came in a dismal second among states, behind Louisiana (the District of Columbia was the worst). One can not determine how corrupt their state is based on the information linked to."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 March 19, 2012 Quote"What is your state's risk of corruption?" Simple formula really. Amount of resources * illusion of forthrightness = corruption potential You need to have something to tempt. You need to have the appearance of being beyond reproach. It's the people who appear to be beyond reproach you should be watching most carefully. The people who appear to be obviously corrupt are the people who have the least potential because they're constantly being watched.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #14 March 19, 2012 QuoteQuote Catchy title, eh? Nope. Deceitful title ... Don't dislocate your shoulder reaching like that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 March 19, 2012 QuoteMinnesota is ranked a D+ and yet according to the link: Quote High-profile cases of corruption in the state are relatively rare, and modestly low grade as measured against scandals elsewhere. Illinois is ranked C and yet according to the link: Quote In a study released on Feb. 15 by the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Illinois Institute for Government and Public Affairs —which ranked the per capita number of government appointees, employees, and others convicted of public corruption— Illinois came in a dismal second among states, behind Louisiana (the District of Columbia was the worst). This is a part of the issue with corruption. Illinois has plenty of prosecutions for corruption. But in a sense, it means that Illinois is actually doing something about it. If a state is cracking down against corruption then it can be viewed as a positive. However, in doing so, the number of corruption cases skyrockets. Compared to, say, Minnesota, where they may not be giving any teeth to their corruption laws. Corruption may be happening but nothing's being done about it, so nothing's being reported. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #16 March 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Catchy title, eh? Nope. Deceitful title ... Don't dislocate your shoulder reaching like that. Considering I didn't have to reach, I won't. Regardless, you should be worrying about yourself living in Chicago, Illinois ... when you aren't dealing with corrupt politicians you have plenty of gangs and shootings (approximately 50 just this past weekend). Good thing Illinois is so accountable. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #17 March 19, 2012 Quote approximately 50 just this past weekend) Holy crap - you people are eradicating yourselves quicker than expected dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 March 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteToo bad Washington DC isn't a State or it would have been rated the most corrupt place in the country. I'm not talking about the Federal Government either. Tell it to mnealtx. He believes DC to be a state. Equivalent to a state for several purposes, yes. Best start that letter campaign to get the postal code changed from DC to MD or VA, perfesser.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #19 March 20, 2012 Not all that corrupt. We are so broke that we can't much afford to buy off politicians the way we'd like to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #20 March 20, 2012 Quote Quote approximately 50 just this past weekend) Holy crap - you people are eradicating yourselves quicker than expected Yep, gang warfare: "Both teens are said to be affiliated with the Latin Kings street gang, police said." Unfortunately we make it trivially easy for criminals to get guns. Many of our gun enthusiasts like it that way. Some even post here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 March 20, 2012 Quote Quote Quote approximately 50 just this past weekend) Holy crap - you people are eradicating yourselves quicker than expected Yep, gang warfare: "Both teens are said to be affiliated with the Latin Kings street gang, police said." Unfortunately we make it trivially easy for criminals to get guns. Many of our gun enthusiasts like it that way. Some even post here. That same old lie, *again*?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #22 March 20, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote approximately 50 just this past weekend) Holy crap - you people are eradicating yourselves quicker than expected Yep, gang warfare: "Both teens are said to be affiliated with the Latin Kings street gang, police said." Unfortunately we make it trivially easy for criminals to get guns. Many of our gun enthusiasts like it that way. Some even post here. That same old lie, *again*? It IS trivially easy for criminals to get guns, and you have opposed any and every idea that might make it more difficult without suggesting one idea of your own.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #23 March 20, 2012 Quote It IS trivially easy for criminals to get guns, and you have opposed any and every idea that might make it more difficult without suggesting one idea of your own. and yet you two go back and forth constantly. with subtle insults interspersed. just stop already and let the thread die.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
