DaVinci 0
billvon 3,120
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>Yep, no way would I attack them just because they were following me unless I already
>had aggressive tendencies.
And, say, had already been arrested for attacking a cop?
(Hint there - the reason Zimmerman is wearing an orange suit in his pictures isn't because he likes orange.)
>had aggressive tendencies.
And, say, had already been arrested for attacking a cop?
(Hint there - the reason Zimmerman is wearing an orange suit in his pictures isn't because he likes orange.)
rehmwa 2
QuoteI guess "zero tolerance" means you have no marijuana, just an empty bag.
"an empty bag of mj" is really misleading and plays to one side only
was it a bag "with mj remnants"? or a bag that "had an odor of/evidence of" mj? then that's one thing
Else it's just an empty bag of empty
saying "empty bag of mj" just leads to ridicule and nonsense - they need to be specific
...
Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
Channman 2
Quote>Basically one group is just SURE that Zimmerman did it.
There's no question that he shot the kid.
The question is - is he guilty of murder or manslaughter? One group is positive he is guilty, and killed him because he hated blacks; one is positive he is a completely innocent guy who heroically defended himself against a deadly threat. The truth is almost certainly between those two extremes.
I'm jumping into this TREAD way late, and I have no idea if the topic of the "New Black Panters Party" placing a $10,000.00 bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Not even the Police, FBI, Justice Department to my knowledge have even investigated this group that has placed this bounty on a private citizen. The Black Panthers say they have over 5,000 black men out actively seeking the capture of George Zimmerman so he can be brought to justice.
Is the capture of a private citizen, by a group/organization considered Kidnapping? Is placing a Bounty on a US citizen by a group calling themselves the New Black Panthers Party legal? Is the New Black Panthers Party a terrorist organization?
Eric Holder was not inclined to investigate Black Panther Voter Intimidation back in 2008, is it possible he will insert himself and investigate this bounty on a private citizen. He can always consult with the NFL on how to handle such matters.
DaVinci 0
QuoteWhat do you say about these two.
Blonde said she heard the crying for help stop after the gunshot. "I don't think it is self defense since if it was Zimmerman crying he would still be crying after the shot went off"
Uh, not really. After the threat was ended you more likely will not still be crying for help.
Dark haired said she saw Zimmerman AFTER it was over.
So:
1. Neither saw what happened
2. Both are making a claim based on thinking they knew who was crying for help.
Neither knew either party so they have no way of knowing who it was, they are making a guess. And when in a panic voices tend to rise.
The cops also said their stories didn't really seem authentic.
You really want to trust people who didn't see anything and are basing their entire opinion on hearing a voice in a panic and being able to place it to a person they don't know?
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I'm jumping into this TREAD way late, and I have no idea if the topic of the "New Black Panters Party" placing a $10,000.00 bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Not even the Police, FBI, Justice Department to my knowledge have even investigated this group that has placed this bounty on a private citizen. The Black Panthers say they have over 5,000 black men out actively seeking the capture of George Zimmerman so he can be brought to justice.
Yeah, this is remarkably similar to the pro-lifers that got punished from running web sites with a target list of abortion doctors. You've exceeded first amendment rights when you offer a bounty for illegal acts. The Feds should be acting to shut that down and let the situation defuse a bit.
mnealtx 0
Quote>Yep, no way would I attack them just because they were following me unless I already
>had aggressive tendencies.
And, say, had already been arrested for attacking a cop?
(Hint there - the reason Zimmerman is wearing an orange suit in his pictures isn't because he likes orange.)
The arrest where they subsequently dropped the charges, you mean?
Edit to add: Hint there - you might want to take another look at that Zimmerman photo (link) - while I'm sure Sanford is a pretty swanky place, I'm pretty sure that polo shirts aren't prisoner garb.
Mike
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billvon 3,120
>and I have no idea if the topic of the "New Black Panters Party" placing a $10,000.00
>bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime
>has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Yeah, I thought that was pathetic. I was glad that people on both sides of the issue condemned them for that.
>bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime
>has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Yeah, I thought that was pathetic. I was glad that people on both sides of the issue condemned them for that.
billvon 3,120
>The arrest where they subsequently dropped the charges, you mean?
Yep. Apparently, per people here, arrests only happen when there is enough good evidence to support the arrest.
Yep. Apparently, per people here, arrests only happen when there is enough good evidence to support the arrest.
mnealtx 0
Quote>and I have no idea if the topic of the "New Black Panters Party" placing a $10,000.00
>bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime
>has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Yeah, I thought that was pathetic. I was glad that people on both sides of the issue condemned them for that.
Got a link for the pro-Martin folks condemning the Panthers for the bounty?
Mike
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mnealtx 0
Quote>The arrest where they subsequently dropped the charges, you mean?
Yep. Apparently, per people here, arrests only happen when there is enough good evidence to support the arrest.
Certainly doesn't support your premise of Zimmerman's aggression since they dropped the charges, does it?
Mike
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Channman 2
Quote>and I have no idea if the topic of the "New Black Panters Party" placing a $10,000.00
>bounty on a US Citizen, who has not been arrested, or currently charged with a crime
>has not seen a great deal of coverage in the media.
Yeah, I thought that was pathetic. I was glad that people on both sides of the issue condemned them for that.
That is good to hear. I haven't seen any coverage of either side condeming them for making such an offer.
Since Obama and the DOJ have inserted themselves into this, I think it would be appropriate for them to speak out publically and condemn militias offering bounties. Can you imagine the outrage if the Minutemen of some right-wing militia group made the same offer?
DaVinci 0
Quote>The arrest where they subsequently dropped the charges, you mean?
Yep. Apparently, per people here, arrests only happen when there is enough good evidence to support the arrest
Yes, and convictions only happen when the data still points in the direction later. Most cops tend to take the "If in doubt, ride them".
In this case, due to the nature of the case, the was a law in place to prevent the 'ride' unless the evidence was solid enough to back the assumption of guilt. In this case, there was not enough evidence to ride him.
billvon 3,120
>Certainly doesn't support your premise of Zimmerman's aggression since they
>dropped the charges, does it?
Do you think the fact that he has been arrested three times for crimes of violence has anything to do with his propensity towards violence?
>dropped the charges, does it?
Do you think the fact that he has been arrested three times for crimes of violence has anything to do with his propensity towards violence?
billvon 3,120
>In this case, there was not enough evidence to ride him.
Sounds like in his previous arrests there _was_ enough.
Sounds like in his previous arrests there _was_ enough.
Quote>In this case, there was not enough evidence to ride him.
Sounds like in his previous arrests there _was_ enough.
Three arrests, no convictions? I have not seen this yet, so I ask for clarification.
Matt
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Quote>Certainly doesn't support your premise of Zimmerman's aggression since they
>dropped the charges, does it?
Do you think the fact that he has been arrested three times for crimes of violence has anything to do with his propensity towards violence?
No, it's very likely he was only arrested because he's Hispanic. We all know how racist Florida cops are.
mnealtx 0
Quote>Certainly doesn't support your premise of Zimmerman's aggression since they
>dropped the charges, does it?
Do you think the fact that he has been arrested three times for crimes of violence has anything to do with his propensity towards violence?
QuoteGeorge Michael Zimmerman’s Criminal Record
Search Menu New Criminal Search Click Here Location : Orange CountyRecord Count:4Search By: Defendant Exact Name: on Party Search Mode: Name Last Name: Zimmerman First Name: George Case Status: All Sort By: Filed Date Case NumberCitation NumberDefendant InfoFiled/Location/Judicial OfficerType/StatusCharge(s)2005-CF-009525-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983
07/18/2005
Div 10
OKane, Julie H
Criminal Felony
Closed
CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
10/05/1983
07/18/2005
Orlando
Miller, W Michael
Misdemeanor
Closed
CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE
2006-TR-219362-A-O
0244RCN
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
12/14/2006
Orlando
Officer, 98 Hearing
Civil Traffic Infraction
Closed
TR- UNLAWFUL SPEED
2006-TR-219364-A-O
0245RCN
ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
12/14/2006
Orlando
Officer, 98 Hearing
Civil Traffic Infraction
Closed
TR- CERT OF REGISTRATION POSSESS REQ
Only the one arrest showing up on his record, the one where the charges were dropped.
Mike
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billvon 3,120
>Three arrests, no convictions? I have not seen this yet, so I ask for clarification.
Two arrests, my mistake. One for domestic violence, one for an attack on a police officer. The arrest for battery on the police officer resulted in two charges; both were dropped.
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The North Mobile Post
News and Commentary from Around the World
Sanford Police Chief Steps Down over Trayvon Martin Case
Friday, March 23, 2012
The growing outrage over the murder of Trayvon Martin has led Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee to temporarily step down from his position. . . .
Police originally told Martin’s parents that Zimmerman had a clean record. That information has turned out to be false. In 2005 a woman accused Zimmerman of domestic violence and had an injunction filed against him. The month prior he had been arrested for shoving a police officer at a bar near the University of Central Florida.
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Two arrests, my mistake. One for domestic violence, one for an attack on a police officer. The arrest for battery on the police officer resulted in two charges; both were dropped.
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The North Mobile Post
News and Commentary from Around the World
Sanford Police Chief Steps Down over Trayvon Martin Case
Friday, March 23, 2012
The growing outrage over the murder of Trayvon Martin has led Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee to temporarily step down from his position. . . .
Police originally told Martin’s parents that Zimmerman had a clean record. That information has turned out to be false. In 2005 a woman accused Zimmerman of domestic violence and had an injunction filed against him. The month prior he had been arrested for shoving a police officer at a bar near the University of Central Florida.
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mirage62 0
Quote
(Hint there - the reason Zimmerman is wearing an orange suit in his pictures isn't because he likes orange.)
Another good media point. Notice how Zimmerman is show in that picture all the time, yet Martin is show in that school boy 15 yr old picture.
Even Fox did it.
Does anyone KNOW that Zimmerman has all these arrest? Bill you posted comment later.....has it come out that these were arrest photos of Zimmerman?
Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little
Yes, Yellow or Red.... but not Black. Being followed is a reason to raise your guard, escape and evade, but not to attack someone.
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