Gravitymaster 0 #51 March 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote This was really depressing, it just confirmed what I already knew, the majority of Southern Republican's are stupid as fuck. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/obama-muslim-evolution-fake-amp-rush-limbaugh-great-republican-voters-poll-article-1.1037530 Something else to ponder: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9154919/US-election-2012-Rick-Santorum-filmed-in-thrall-of-evangelical-preacher.html So when Obama sits in a Church for 20 years and listens to a radical preacher, it's OK because he doesn't share his views and the preacher has no influence. But when Santorum, while campaigning listens to a radical preacher, then we need to get upset because clearly he's being influenced. No, I just want you to realize that you have a double standard. By demonstrating your own? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #52 March 20, 2012 BTW, Santorums an ass and I hope he doesn't get the nomination. Can you say the same about Obama? I didn't think so. Makes you an even bigger hypocrite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #53 March 20, 2012 QuoteBTW, Santorums an ass and I hope he doesn't get the nomination. Because of that video clip, or did you have that opinion prior to? You may want to think about the answer, the validity of your insult relies on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #54 March 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteBTW, Santorums an ass and I hope he doesn't get the nomination. Because of that video clip, or did you have that opinion prior to? You may want to think about the answer, the validity of your insult relies on it. Nope, the validity of Kallends hypocrisy is what's at issue. Obama supporters have know about Jeremiah Wright for years and still supported him. So to now criticize Santorum becuse he simply listened to a nut job preacher while on the campaign trail pales in comparison. Nice try, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #55 March 20, 2012 Quote Nope, the validity of Kallends hypocrisy is what's at issue. Obama supporters have know about Jeremiah Wright for years and still supported him. So to now criticize Santorum becuse he simply listened to a nut job preacher while on the campaign trail pales in comparison. No, Santorum is criticized because he makes nut job preacher like proposals. Has Obama advanced Wright's agenda (what is it?) in his first 3+ years as President? If he hasn't yet, maybe it's time to SDSTFU about this association. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #56 March 20, 2012 Do you have some proof that Santorum was influenced by and has been carrying out this preachers agenda? No? Then sdstfu yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #57 March 20, 2012 Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #58 March 20, 2012 QuoteNope, the validity of Kallends hypocrisy is what's at issue. Obama supporters have know about Jeremiah Wright for years and still supported him. So to now criticize Santorum becuse he simply listened to a nut job preacher while on the campaign trail pales in comparison. Nice try, though. The difference is pretty large. Santorum has publicly alligned himself with a fair number of the ideas put forward by this preacher. Obama had not done such a thing, yet his presence was used to show a supposed hidden agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #59 March 20, 2012 QuoteHas Obama advanced Wright's agenda (what is it?) in his first 3+ years as President? Well, considering that Wright's agenda was "God damn America," I'd say he's right on par...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #60 March 20, 2012 Do you have some proof that this preacher influenced Santorum? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #61 March 20, 2012 QuoteDo you have some proof that this preacher influenced Santorum? who needs proof of this? they seem nicely aligned...so influenced, or birds of a feather...same difference. But you don't seem to be able to show any examples where Obama has enacted Wright's agenda. Israel is still an ally, and he took care of the puppermaster behind 9/11. Certainly hasn't gone after Whitey - he instead continued most Bush policies. Like many of the Obama boogeyman put out by the opposition in 2008, reality hasn't supported paranoia and/or racism. The obvious one - man of limited experience - did, but it wasn't just the Right that saw that problem. And yet the GOP can't see fit to supply us with a better choice and we still have the spectre (or horror or fun?) of Santorum as the nominee. If that happens, we're going to see some amazing bullshit as the party tries to sell him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #62 March 20, 2012 >Do you have some proof that this preacher influenced Santorum? Who needs any? He was PALLING AROUND with a preacher who advocates ethnic cleansing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #63 March 20, 2012 Nice straw man. I never made any claims like you suggest. Please continue to discuss this with yourself. Obviously you don't need me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #64 March 20, 2012 If he had launched his political career in this preachers living room, or sat in his Church for 20 years, you'd have a point. Funny, never the less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #65 March 20, 2012 >If he had launched his political career in this preachers living room . . .you'd have a point. And if Obama had clapped when Wright said "God damn America" you might have a point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #66 March 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you have some proof that this preacher influenced Santorum? who needs proof of this? they seem nicely aligned...so influenced, or birds of a feather...same difference. But you don't seem to be able to show any examples where Obama has enacted Wright's agenda. Israel is still an ally, and he took care of the puppermaster behind 9/11. Certainly hasn't gone after Whitey - he instead continued most Bush policies. Hey, he DID grab all the guns, just like the righties said he would. Oh, wait...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #67 March 22, 2012 QuoteSpeaking of Limbaugh, seems he has lost his national advertising for two weeks. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/13/1073984/-Rush-Limbaugh-syndicator-suspendin You just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #68 March 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteSpeaking of Limbaugh, seems he has lost his national advertising for two weeks. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/13/1073984/-Rush-Limbaugh-syndicator-suspendin You just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. I agree, there are some who would like to see Rush off the air. If he could be removed by means of pressure on his advirtisers, that's great, but this is not the job of the government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #69 March 22, 2012 QuoteYou just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. I am pretty sure it is largely conservatives who are in favour of restrictions on free speech on public airways, in the name of common decency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #70 March 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. I am pretty sure it is largely conservatives who are in favour of restrictions on free speech on public airways, in the name of common decency. Well, once again, you are very wrong. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/03/21/city-council-warns-crack-ho-comments-intolerable-calls-for-diversity-in-talk-radio/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #71 March 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. I am pretty sure it is largely conservatives who are in favour of restrictions on free speech on public airways, in the name of common decency. Well, once again, you are very wrong. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/03/21/city-council-warns-crack-ho-comments-intolerable-calls-for-diversity-in-talk-radio/ BINGO!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #72 March 22, 2012 Quote Quote You just watch. Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways. I am pretty sure it is largely conservatives who are in favour of restrictions on free speech on public airways, in the name of common decency. You walked flat footed into this one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #73 March 22, 2012 >Some group of Liberals somewhere will try and pass a law banning free speech from >the public airways. I know, right? ================ Conservatives Will Win Battle Against Homosexuality By Banning The Word "Gay" Since conservatives can't make homosexuals go away, they're trying a different tactic; By not using the word "gay" and forbidding talk of homosexuality in schools, they hope to reframe the issue. This weekend at The Awakening conference at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., Ryan Sorba, chairman of the Young Conservatives of California, argued: "‘Gay' is a left-wing socio-political construct designed to create grounds for fundamental rights [based on] whimsical capricious desires ... Gay identity does not exist." According to The American Independent, Sorba suggested possible alternative terms for gay behavior, including, "Same-sex attraction," "Same-sex intercourse," "Sodomy," "Unnatural vice," or simply referring to homosexuals as "anti-Christian." ================== Santorum: 'If Elected, I Will Ban Pornography In The U.S.' Catherine Green | March 16, 2012 | 9:57 a.m. PDT GOP candidate Rick Santorum will make a war on pornography one of his top goals for the presidency, according to his website Friday. Yahoo News reported the former Pennsylvania senator said the country was suffering "a pandemic of harm from pornography." The report continues: "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking." The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture." Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws. "If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration." Santorum is not the first presidential candidate to take up the obscenity issue. In July, Michele Bachmann signed a pledge vowing her support of a constitutional amendment that, among other things, called for a ban on all pornography. (It also effectively called for a ban on same-sex marriage.) ============================= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #74 March 22, 2012 1. Non-sequitor for this discussion. 2. Non-sequitor to this discussion. However, a private University absolutely has the right to enact certain protocols. Would you have the same attitude if it they were banning "f*ggot, n*gger, k*ke, etc? Quite different that a government banning speech, don't you think? 3. Non-sequitor to this discussion. However, Santorums an ass and he is simply catering to a certain voter. He's not going to try and enact any laws regarding pornography for adults. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #75 March 22, 2012 >Non-sequitor for this discussion. You're right. A conservative group trying to pass laws banning free speech has nothing to do with groups who "will try and pass a law banning free speech from the public airways." Next up - conservatives claim that the GOP's attacks on Obama have nothing to do with Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
