CBS Reporter Quotes Himself as a Source ...

[muff528 3]

They're not even trying anymore!
Way to raise the bar, Dan!

Disregard the subject matter if you like...

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/03/09/peyton-manning-arrives-in-denver-for-meeting-with-broncos/

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Two points here:

1) Dude, it's SPORTS.
2) What makes you think Gary Miller wrote the internet web piece? I don't see a by line.

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[muff528 3]

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Two points here:

1) Dude, it's SPORTS.

Irrelevant. Tricksters and sleazeball propagandist "reporters" have to get their start somewhere before they make it to primetime by honing their skills on unimportant stories. Dan didn't start at the top, either.

2) What makes you think Gary Miller wrote the internet web piece? I don't see a by line.

Yeah, that's a little unusual. OK, then ... a CBS copywriter is quoting a CBS reporter as a source for a story. Miller does refer to unspecified "reports" so I guess those reports are his source. I stand corrected.

[kallend 2,150]

So what?

I have a Pulitzer Prize winning friend who was a reporter in Beijing during the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. He subsequently wrote a book about it. He quoted his own newspaper articles as sources in the book, since he WAS the eye witness to the events.

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So what?

I have a Pulitzer Prize winning friend who was a reporter in Beijing during the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. He subsequently wrote a book about it. He quoted his own newspaper articles as sources in the book, since he WAS the eye witness to the events.

“But at this point, the Broncos believe that they may well be the favorites to land Peyton Manning....."

“This has to be exciting for the average Broncos fan. Certainly, this puts Tim Tebow’s future in doubt here in Denver and the reports that we have heard were if the Broncos were able to land Manning they would make an attempt to trade Tim Tebow. So there’s no question the Broncos are all in on Manning. They want to make him the next quarterback of the Denver Broncos,” said Miller.

“If things go the way they want, Manning will be playing for the Denver Broncos and Tim Tebow will be playing elsewhere. The Broncos are determined that Peyton Manning is the man they want to be their quarterback.”

Every bit of the above is based on conjecture and some "reports that (he has) heard".

In contrast, your guy "was the eye witness to the events" and he legitimately reported on first-hand observation. I certainly have no problem with him using his own first-hand eyewitness accounts as a source for his book about those events.

[kallend 2,150]

So you agree, then, that when a "Reporter Quotes Himself as a Source" (your thread title) there's nothing actually wrong with that.

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So you agree, then, that when a "Reporter Quotes Himself as a Source" (your thread title) there's nothing actually wrong with that.

Actually, this brings up a great point! At what level of "sourcery" do we consider a report to be believable? That is, by how many degrees of separation from a story is it still considered to be acceptable reporting and not hearsay? Do we tend to believe the report because we believe in the veracity of the reporter. Do we disbelieve a reporter because we disagree him? How would I know your friend is to be believed? Because he subsequently won a Pulitzer? Because you know him and you vouch for his reliability? Because his account is corroborated by other reporters? Do we just take what the media feeds us as "gospel"? Do we just assume they are truth-seekers who remain above the fray, so to speak. Or do we distrust all of them as fallible political animals with their own causes and agendas driving their reporting.

[kallend 2,150]

Even eye witnesses are unreliable - a problem our courts are struggling with (at least in some states they are).

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So you agree, then, that when a "Reporter Quotes Himself as a Source" (your thread title) there's nothing actually wrong with that.

Actually, this brings up a great point! At what level of "sourcery" do we consider a report to be believable? That is, by how many degrees of separation from a story is it still considered to be acceptable reporting and not hearsay? Do we tend to believe the report because we believe in the veracity of the reporter. Do we disbelieve a reporter because we disagree him? How would I know your friend is to be believed? Because he subsequently won a Pulitzer? Because you know him and you vouch for his reliability? Because his account is corroborated by other reporters? Do we just take what the media feeds us as "gospel"? Do we just assume they are truth-seekers who remain above the fray, so to speak. Or do we distrust all of them as fallible political animals with their own causes and agendas driving their reporting.

Interesting questions, though probably more at home in a thread that isn't about football.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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So what?

I have a Pulitzer Prize winning friend who was a reporter in Beijing during the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. He subsequently wrote a book about it. He quoted his own newspaper articles as sources in the book, since he WAS the eye witness to the events.

“But at this point, the Broncos believe that they may well be the favorites to land Peyton Manning....."

“This has to be exciting for the average Broncos fan. Certainly, this puts Tim Tebow’s future in doubt here in Denver and the reports that we have heard were if the Broncos were able to land Manning they would make an attempt to trade Tim Tebow. So there’s no question the Broncos are all in on Manning. They want to make him the next quarterback of the Denver Broncos,” said Miller.

“If things go the way they want, Manning will be playing for the Denver Broncos and Tim Tebow will be playing elsewhere. The Broncos are determined that Peyton Manning is the man they want to be their quarterback.”

Every bit of the above is based on conjecture and some "reports that (he has) heard".

And the report is upfront about that.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Actually, this brings up a great point! At what level of "sourcery" do we consider a report to be believable?

Isn't that up to us individually to decide? At least in this article it was all pretty clear.