billvon 3,112 #76 March 14, 2012 >This would only be panel to determine best course of treatment . . . . . . and to deny treatments and tests that the doctors couldn't "prove" they needed. Government panel set up to deny care. Hmm. > . . . .there is a difference. Congratulations, you have completely missed the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #77 March 14, 2012 Quote>This would only be panel to determine best course of treatment . . . . . . and to deny treatments and tests that the doctors couldn't "prove" they needed. Government panel set up to deny care. Hmm. > . . . .there is a difference. Congratulations, you have completely missed the point. No I did not, I read the end of life planning in the health care bill, I would say you missed the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #78 March 14, 2012 Quote Quote You can. It would be thousands of pages long to account for just a fraction of the contingencies. Not really. Simple flowchart...I think this is what they use right now as a matter of fact. Pulse absent? Send him to the morgue Pulse present? Charge him an arm, a leg and his first born to do as many tests and procedures as possible to maximize earnings.* *Makes you think: a. This bozo has no idea what he is doing. b. This bozo has a Ferrari payment due. Just pure capitalism. Don't like it, find yourself another doctor. Governemnt should get their nose out of healthcare. It would be so much cheaper if it wasn't so regulated. Who needs a licensed and trained professional anyways? It's not like it is brain surgery...uhmm...rocket science. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #79 March 14, 2012 QuoteI read the end of life planning in the health care bill, That may be so, but based on what you have posted here, I doubt you understood what you read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,112 #80 March 14, 2012 >No I did not, I read the end of life planning in the health care bill From Wikipedia: ============== "Death panel" is a political term that originated during a 2009 debate about federal health care legislation to cover the uninsured in the United States. The term was first used in August 2009 by former Republican Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin when she charged that the proposed legislation would create a "death panel" of bureaucrats who would decide whether Americans—such as her elderly parents or child with Down syndrome—were worthy of medical care. Palin's claim, however, was debunked, and it has been referred to as the "death panel" myth. =============== Your proposal for a board of 10-20 people that forces doctors to "only order tests that are medically needed" and decide what treatments are valid is EXACTLY what Palin (and McCaughey, Bachmann, Boehner, McCotter, and Gingrich) were talking about. Exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #81 March 15, 2012 My belief is that my health and well being are his priority. If I don't believe that, I change doctors. I will avoid those with their pocket books and government as their priority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #82 March 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote You can. It would be thousands of pages long to account for just a fraction of the contingencies. Not really. Simple flowchart...I think this is what they use right now as a matter of fact. Pulse absent? Send him to the morgue Pulse present? Charge him an arm, a leg and his first born to do as many tests and procedures as possible to maximize earnings.* *Makes you think: a. This bozo has no idea what he is doing. b. This bozo has a Ferrari payment due. Just pure capitalism. Don't like it, find yourself another doctor. Governemnt should get their nose out of healthcare. It would be so much cheaper if it wasn't so regulated. Who needs a licensed and trained professional anyways? It's not like it is brain surgery...uhmm...rocket science. And we should be able to write our own prescriptions too! Requiring an MD to write a prescription is just a money making scam dreamed up by the medical profession. Right!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites