masterrig 1 #1 March 9, 2012 Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? http://loku.com/content/bad-economy-obama-spark-rise-in-anti-us-gov-groups-report Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #2 March 9, 2012 >Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 March 9, 2012 Quote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. I KNOW! Remember the minute after he took office? He walked off the stage, got into a black helicopter and personally started busting doors down taking everybody's guns. God damn! All the NRA panic spewed by Wayne was 100% right on. Thank god Wayne is still there warning us about Obama is still on the loose trying to take our guns.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 March 9, 2012 Quote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. From what I've seen here locally as well as nationally, there are a lot of people concerned that Obama is going to get everyone's guns. Personally, I'm not concerned that my guns 'will' be taken. There are too many gun lobbyists and the 2nd. amendment. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #5 March 9, 2012 QuoteQuote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. I KNOW! Remember the minute after he took office? He walked off the stage, got into a black helicopter and personally started busting doors down taking everybody's guns. God damn! All the NRA panic spewed by Wayne was 100% right on. Thank god Wayne is still there warning us about Obama is still on the loose trying to take our guns. I recall, not too long after Obama got elected, I was in my local hardware store. My sole purpose was to purchase a rifle. I noticed that behind and on the counter was all kinds of political crap about 'Obama is going to get our guns!' when I asked the clerk about the rifele I was looking for, he got on his damned soap-box. A middle-aged couple was there also and chimed-in with the clerk. I complained to the store manager about this. I was informed that political material such as that was not allowed in the store. The political material was removed and the clerk was reprimanded/quit! Just typical 'knee-jerk response' by people spreading shhit. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 March 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. From what I've seen here locally as well as nationally, there are a lot of people concerned that Obama is going to get everyone's guns. Personally, I'm not concerned that my guns 'will' be taken. There are too many gun lobbyists and the 2nd. amendment. ***For some businesses and political groups, it sure doesn't hurt perpetuating certain beliefs about Obama. No one's ever gone broke over estimating the fear of the American public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #7 March 9, 2012 Quote***QuoteQuote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. From what I've seen here locally as well as nationally, there are a lot of people concerned that Obama is going to get everyone's guns. Personally, I'm not concerned that my guns 'will' be taken. There are too many gun lobbyists and the 2nd. amendment. For some businesses and political groups, it sure doesn't hurt perpetuating certain beliefs about Obama. No one's ever gone broke over estimating the fear of the American public. Oh boy, how right you are! They say 'sex sells' but 'fear' is right up there. People don't stop and think and just show 'common sense'. I guess, to so many, they'd rather jump to cionclusions. Businesses sure do 'use' that to their benefit. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #8 March 10, 2012 These reports have been popping up in the news lately, and the source is... The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). I'm not surprised by all the knee-jerk liberal reactions here as a result of this to call folks on the right kooks. The real kooks are the SPLC. They've been on this witch hunt for decades, counting everyone who says something about guns and the government as an "anti-government militia". Despite all the dire predictions about these groups, almost nothing ever happens. They have a reputation for running around like Chicken Little crying that "the sky is falling!" Yeah, I know, the liberals here cry about how fear is used to get conservatives to buy guns, but at the same time, this kind of SPLC fear is used to get liberals stirred up to pass more gun restrictions. But hey, they need the publicity now and then to get people to donate money to keep their coffers full. You would think that with a name like "Poverty Law Center" that their mission would be to give legal representation to poor people. But instead, they run around trying to scare everyone about militias. Go figure... Link to their so-called "Intelilgence Report": http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/active-patriot-groups-in-the-united-states Quote:"Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the “New World Order,” engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing, or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines. Listing here does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist. "The list was compiled from field reports, Patriot publications, the Internet, law enforcement sources and news reports. Groups are identified by the city, county or region where they are located..."Note how they don't actually have to be considered violent, criminal or racist to be on their list. And their list contains entries culled from sources as simple as the internet. And everyone knows that what's said on the internet doesn't mean crap. But if someone has a web site that espouses a certain view that the SPLC doesn't like, suddenly that becomes an "anti-government militia". They would have more credibility if they just listed groups that actually advocate violence. But that number would be so small, it wouldn't frighten anybody into opening up their pocketbooks. The fact is, the large majority of these "groups" are just exercising their 1st Amendment free speech rights, and there's nothing wrong with that. Chicken Little's. And a lot of people here are falling in line right behind the rooster, strutting and cackling like they're king of the chicken coop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
masterrig 1 #7 March 9, 2012 Quote***QuoteQuote>Obama and the 'bad economy to blame. WHAT? Nobody trusts Obama after he grabbed all their guns. From what I've seen here locally as well as nationally, there are a lot of people concerned that Obama is going to get everyone's guns. Personally, I'm not concerned that my guns 'will' be taken. There are too many gun lobbyists and the 2nd. amendment. For some businesses and political groups, it sure doesn't hurt perpetuating certain beliefs about Obama. No one's ever gone broke over estimating the fear of the American public. Oh boy, how right you are! They say 'sex sells' but 'fear' is right up there. People don't stop and think and just show 'common sense'. I guess, to so many, they'd rather jump to cionclusions. Businesses sure do 'use' that to their benefit. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #8 March 10, 2012 These reports have been popping up in the news lately, and the source is... The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). I'm not surprised by all the knee-jerk liberal reactions here as a result of this to call folks on the right kooks. The real kooks are the SPLC. They've been on this witch hunt for decades, counting everyone who says something about guns and the government as an "anti-government militia". Despite all the dire predictions about these groups, almost nothing ever happens. They have a reputation for running around like Chicken Little crying that "the sky is falling!" Yeah, I know, the liberals here cry about how fear is used to get conservatives to buy guns, but at the same time, this kind of SPLC fear is used to get liberals stirred up to pass more gun restrictions. But hey, they need the publicity now and then to get people to donate money to keep their coffers full. You would think that with a name like "Poverty Law Center" that their mission would be to give legal representation to poor people. But instead, they run around trying to scare everyone about militias. Go figure... Link to their so-called "Intelilgence Report": http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/active-patriot-groups-in-the-united-states Quote:"Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the “New World Order,” engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing, or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines. Listing here does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist. "The list was compiled from field reports, Patriot publications, the Internet, law enforcement sources and news reports. Groups are identified by the city, county or region where they are located..."Note how they don't actually have to be considered violent, criminal or racist to be on their list. And their list contains entries culled from sources as simple as the internet. And everyone knows that what's said on the internet doesn't mean crap. But if someone has a web site that espouses a certain view that the SPLC doesn't like, suddenly that becomes an "anti-government militia". They would have more credibility if they just listed groups that actually advocate violence. But that number would be so small, it wouldn't frighten anybody into opening up their pocketbooks. The fact is, the large majority of these "groups" are just exercising their 1st Amendment free speech rights, and there's nothing wrong with that. Chicken Little's. And a lot of people here are falling in line right behind the rooster, strutting and cackling like they're king of the chicken coop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
JohnRich 4 #8 March 10, 2012 These reports have been popping up in the news lately, and the source is... The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). I'm not surprised by all the knee-jerk liberal reactions here as a result of this to call folks on the right kooks. The real kooks are the SPLC. They've been on this witch hunt for decades, counting everyone who says something about guns and the government as an "anti-government militia". Despite all the dire predictions about these groups, almost nothing ever happens. They have a reputation for running around like Chicken Little crying that "the sky is falling!" Yeah, I know, the liberals here cry about how fear is used to get conservatives to buy guns, but at the same time, this kind of SPLC fear is used to get liberals stirred up to pass more gun restrictions. But hey, they need the publicity now and then to get people to donate money to keep their coffers full. You would think that with a name like "Poverty Law Center" that their mission would be to give legal representation to poor people. But instead, they run around trying to scare everyone about militias. Go figure... Link to their so-called "Intelilgence Report": http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/active-patriot-groups-in-the-united-states Quote:"Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the “New World Order,” engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing, or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines. Listing here does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist. "The list was compiled from field reports, Patriot publications, the Internet, law enforcement sources and news reports. Groups are identified by the city, county or region where they are located..."Note how they don't actually have to be considered violent, criminal or racist to be on their list. And their list contains entries culled from sources as simple as the internet. And everyone knows that what's said on the internet doesn't mean crap. But if someone has a web site that espouses a certain view that the SPLC doesn't like, suddenly that becomes an "anti-government militia". They would have more credibility if they just listed groups that actually advocate violence. But that number would be so small, it wouldn't frighten anybody into opening up their pocketbooks. The fact is, the large majority of these "groups" are just exercising their 1st Amendment free speech rights, and there's nothing wrong with that. Chicken Little's. And a lot of people here are falling in line right behind the rooster, strutting and cackling like they're king of the chicken coop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites