rhaig 0 #26 March 2, 2012 Quote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars)-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #27 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars) Really? I don't recall the (D)s pushing for photo IDs to prevent voter fraud, in a state where there had not been any cases until now. (R)s push for rules. Top (R) then gets caught and convicted. Hypocrisy at its best.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #28 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars) Really? I don't recall the (D)s pushing for photo IDs to prevent voter fraud, in a state where there had not been any cases until now. (R)s push for rules. Top (R) then gets caught and convicted. Hypocrisy at its best. What is wrong with making someone show ID to vote? are you afraid it will cause places like chicago to actually have a fair election? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #29 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars) Really? I don't recall the (D)s pushing for photo IDs to prevent voter fraud, in a state where there had not been any cases until now. (R)s push for rules. Top (R) then gets caught and convicted. Hypocrisy at its best. What is wrong with making someone show ID to vote? are you afraid it will cause places like chicago to actually have a fair election? How many cases had there been such that this became a legislative priority of the GOP? Compared, say, to the number of cases of gun homicide in Indiana, which is not a priority of the GOP at all. GOP pushed the law to prevent voter fraud, then a senior one of their own got caught with his pants down, figuratively speaking. Hypocrites.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #30 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars) Really? I don't recall the (D)s pushing for photo IDs to prevent voter fraud, in a state where there had not been any cases until now. (R)s push for rules. Top (R) then gets caught and convicted. Hypocrisy at its best. What is wrong with making someone show ID to vote? are you afraid it will cause places like chicago to actually have a fair election? How many cases had there been such that this became a legislative priority of the GOP? Compared, say, to the number of cases of gun homicide in Indiana, which is not a priority of the GOP at all. GOP pushed the law to prevent voter fraud, then a senior one of their own got caught with his pants down, figuratively speaking. Hypocrites. how many times have dead and incarcerated people voted in places like chicago and minn? alot more than the gun case you talk about. what does D or R have anything to do with voter fraud? if there is fraud you prosecute and be done with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #31 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The (R) is, however, a very good indicator of HYPOCRISY. as is the (D) as we discussed in a different thread. (also liars) Really? I don't recall the (D)s pushing for photo IDs to prevent voter fraud, in a state where there had not been any cases until now. (R)s push for rules. Top (R) then gets caught and convicted. Hypocrisy at its best. What is wrong with making someone show ID to vote? are you afraid it will cause places like chicago to actually have a fair election? How many cases had there been such that this became a legislative priority of the GOP? Compared, say, to the number of cases of gun homicide in Indiana, which is not a priority of the GOP at all. GOP pushed the law to prevent voter fraud, then a senior one of their own got caught with his pants down, figuratively speaking. Hypocrites. how many times have dead and incarcerated people voted in places like chicago and minn? alot more than the gun case you talk about. what does D or R have anything to do with voter fraud? if there is fraud you prosecute and be done with it. Can't answer the question, I see. The answer is NONE. This was a non-issue in Indiana.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 March 2, 2012 Quote Quote Quote didn't the G O P Invent voter fraud??? or at least they perfected it.. back in 2000 when georgie & Jeb and all their strategists and cohorts... Stole the damn election..... for The POTUS.. no less...!!!!!!for God's sake.... LOOK what That did for our country Those bastards!!!!!!! The sad thing is that no matter how many times this was investigated and proven to be false, many still believe it. (Salon has not been found guilty of any felonies, despite how much you dislike them.) Trying to DISTRACT from the Indiana Secretary of State (R) FELONY CONVICTIONS for voter fraud and perjury is quite expected of you, but unsuccessful. I'm not trying to distract from anything. I'm simply responding to someone who has his facts wrong. Nice attempt at blaming the messenger though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #33 March 2, 2012 Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #34 March 2, 2012 Quote Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES? Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #35 March 2, 2012 Quote Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. Is the bullshit in this post from planet earth? Apparently not. It is from RWC planet earth that only exists in the minds of RWCs? You have GOT to stop watching Faux Spews. Running the same foorage of TWO black men in a mostly black precinct over and over, hundreds of times a day, for days on end, does not equate to a massive "Black Panther" conspiracy. The facts of the situation are those gentlemen were there to protect the black voters for being harassed or assaulted by RWCs of northen european ancestry who have been led to believe things that are not true. The "massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates" are yet another example of the disinformation propogated by Faux Spews and happily consumed by credulous nitwits that are RWCs. That shit ain't real, in spite of it being on TV. It is what is called "fiction". Look it up and be ashamed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #36 March 2, 2012 QuoteDon't you love it when the left-wingers try and put words in your mouth and then condemn you for something you never said? It wasn't that long ago that the Republican Party was having a field day with anyone who opposed the war as "Unpatriotic". Both sides do it, and both sides are wrong. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #37 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuote Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. Is the bullshit in this post from planet earth? Apparently not. It is from RWC planet earth that only exists in the minds of RWCs? You have GOT to stop watching Faux Spews. Running the same foorage of TWO black men in a mostly black precinct over and over, hundreds of times a day, for days on end, does not equate to a massive "Black Panther" conspiracy. The facts of the situation are those gentlemen were there to protect the black voters for being harassed or assaulted by RWCs of northen european ancestry who have been led to believe things that are not true. The "massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates" are yet another example of the disinformation propogated by Faux Spews and happily consumed by credulous nitwits that are RWCs. That shit ain't real, in spite of it being on TV. It is what is called "fiction". Look it up and be ashamed. I think you are to emotional to think straight, relax review and come back later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #38 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't you love it when the left-wingers try and put words in your mouth and then condemn you for something you never said? It wasn't that long ago that the Republican Party was having a field day with anyone who opposed the war as "Unpatriotic". Both sides do it, and both sides are wrong. Ian I have no idea how your response is related to what I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 March 2, 2012 Quote Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES? What about him? I already said he should have been put in jail. Or isn't that good enough for you. Perhaps you'd like a public flogging also? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #40 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuote Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. Is the bullshit in this post from planet earth? Apparently not. It is from RWC planet earth that only exists in the minds of RWCs? You have GOT to stop watching Faux Spews. Running the same foorage of TWO black men in a mostly black precinct over and over, hundreds of times a day, for days on end, does not equate to a massive "Black Panther" conspiracy. The facts of the situation are those gentlemen were there to protect the black voters for being harassed or assaulted by RWCs of northen european ancestry who have been led to believe things that are not true. The "massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates" are yet another example of the disinformation propogated by Faux Spews and happily consumed by credulous nitwits that are RWCs. That shit ain't real, in spite of it being on TV. It is what is called "fiction". Look it up and be ashamed. Still having problems with comprehension, I see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #41 March 2, 2012 QuoteQuote Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES? Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. OK, I'll bite: how many high ranking Dems (at Charlie's level or above) have been convicted of voter fraud felonies?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #42 March 3, 2012 QuoteQuote Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES? What about him? I already said he should have been put in jail. Or isn't that good enough for you. Perhaps you'd like a public flogging also? Hey, don't you think it cool that before Indiana's GOP pushed for the voter ID law there hadn't been a single case of voter fraud in the state? Now the GOP has been vindicated by a voter fraud case! Pity it's their own guy, the one responsible for implementing the law. I mean, if you made this a movie plot people would say it was ridiculous.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #43 April 23, 2012 Voter Fraud Probe Nets Many Charges RICHMOND (AP) — An ongoing Virginia State Police investigation of voter fraud since 2008 has resulted in charges against 38 people. Most of those cases have resulted in convictions, while 26 additional cases are still under investigation. In 2008, the state Board of Elections forwarded more than 400 allegations from 62 cities and counties to Virginia State Police for investigation. Board of Elections Secretary Donald Palmer says the complaints varied from voter registration issues to potential polling place fraud on Election Day. But state police say 194 of those cases have been closed because prosecutors declined to bring charges for various reasons."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #44 April 23, 2012 How many tax dollars is it worth to spend on each case of voter fraud? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #45 April 23, 2012 QuoteHow many tax dollars is it worth to spend on each case of voter fraud? Wendy P. How many tax dollars is it worth spending on DWI's? How about speeding? How about the SS Investigation? How about collecting on fraudulently filed tax returns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #46 April 23, 2012 There's an average dollar value of cost for many of those; DUI accidents (which are the eventual logical consequence of DUI), tax dollars collected, SS fraud, etc. Speeding is a little more doubtful, but there's still a downstream cost of speed-induced accidents. The dollar cost of voter fraud is hard to quantify -- how big is it? I'm not at all saying that it should be neglected, just trying to quantify how much in the way of resources should be spent on it, in a world where enforcement dollars are not unending. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #47 April 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Fine. Now what about Charlie (R) and his 6 FELONIES? Got it, one person who is convicted of frausd is equal to the massive frauds perpetrated by Democrat surrogates. And equal to Black Panthers stationing themselves at voting places with the sole intent of preventing anyone except Dems from voting and then not even being charged by Obama's Justice Dept. You sure have a strange sense of parity. OK, I'll bite: how many high ranking Dems (at Charlie's level or above) have been convicted of voter fraud felonies? Crickets, for 6 weeks. I guess he couldn't find any.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #48 April 23, 2012 I don't know how you place a dollar value on ensuring the validity of our electoral system. The point you seem to have missed is that without the fear of consequences of being caught and punished, the incentive to commit crimes grows. Criminals become bolder and bolder and soon our entire system collapses and becomes equivelent to a 3rd world dictatorship with the biggest criminals maintaining power. What price tag do you put on preventing that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #49 April 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteHow many tax dollars is it worth to spend on each case of voter fraud? Wendy P. How many tax dollars is it worth spending on DWI's? How about speeding? How about the SS Investigation? How about collecting on fraudulently filed tax returns? The question properly stated would be how many tax dollars is it worth spending to eliminate all DWIs or all speeders. Right now we opportunistically catch violators and punish them. Just as we do with voter fraud. 400 cases, but only 28 charges. Doesn't seem like a huge problem when we have voter machine error rates approaching 1%. 28 or 400 voters out of millions is simple noise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #50 April 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow many tax dollars is it worth to spend on each case of voter fraud? Wendy P. How many tax dollars is it worth spending on DWI's? How about speeding? How about the SS Investigation? How about collecting on fraudulently filed tax returns? The question properly stated would be how many tax dollars is it worth spending to eliminate all DWIs or all speeders. Right now we opportunistically catch violators and punish them. Just as we do with voter fraud. 400 cases, but only 28 charges. Doesn't seem like a huge problem when we have voter machine error rates approaching 1%. 28 or 400 voters out of millions is simple noise. And yet, kallend *howls* over even smaller occurrences when it comes to guns.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
