Trafficdiver 8 #1 February 26, 2012 http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/24/documents-peta-kills-more-than-95-percent-of-pets-in-its-care/ Once again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2 February 26, 2012 More of the good liberal value system. Animal Rights Activist Meredith Lowel Solicited Contract Killer To Murder Person Who Wore Fur http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/animal-rights-activist-hire-hitman_n_1292394.htmlLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #3 February 26, 2012 Quote More of the good liberal value system. Animal Rights Activist Meredith Lowel Solicited Contract Killer To Murder Person Who Wore Fur http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/animal-rights-activist-hire-hitman_n_1292394.html Quote The affidavit says an FBI employee posing as a possible hit man later began email correspondence with Lowell, and she offered him $730 in jewelry or cash for the killing of a victim of at least 12 years but "preferably 14 years old or older" outside a library near a playground in her hometown. Well at least she had some sense of decency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 February 26, 2012 Eh, you fascisti just don't appreciate the value of true dedication. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #5 February 26, 2012 QuoteEh, you fascisti just don't appreciate the value of true dedication. You are in a good mood today.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 February 26, 2012 QuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #8 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. They have your address. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #9 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. They have your address. Yes. I hear they got Anonymous to hacked their way into the omahasteaks.com address book.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #10 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. Wow. I was expecting a weak argument from the far leftists on this site, but I didn't expect it to be anywhere near this weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites usedtajump 1 #11 February 27, 2012 It was a weak subject to begin with.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #12 February 27, 2012 How about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #13 February 27, 2012 No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. This is a quote YOU should live by"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #14 February 27, 2012 I'm not too fond of PETA and some of the other 'animal rights groups' who tear at human emotions to get money. I especially dis-like their anti meat industry campaign and the lies they spread about it. I wonder... how many of them are strict vegans? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #15 February 27, 2012 QuoteHow about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. They have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? No, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. They only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #16 February 27, 2012 QuoteThey have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? For the same reason Ford doesn't build a shelter. They're not in the sheltering business. QuoteNo, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. I'm pretty sure PETA spokespeople are volunteers. I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it. Please show me PETA protests of humane pet euthanasia. I'd love to see that. All killings are not equal. QuoteThey only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Seriously? What would you have them do with the euthanized cats, dogs, and other pets? Make purses out of them? You'd be on here faster than shit to criticize them for that. There are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #17 February 27, 2012 QuoteThere are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? I've always wondered where the placenta comes from which is used in women's shampoo products... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #18 February 27, 2012 Quote All killings are not equal. I will get back to your other points but I want this one to float out there for a while. This is why I will always fight against self righteous liberals. This statement right here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #19 February 27, 2012 Do you support the death penalty? How about abortion? Are soldier who kill in combat murderers?Are you in favor of making murder legal? Still think all killing is equal? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #20 February 27, 2012 QuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #21 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #22 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. You are missing my point completely. A dead murdering scumbag and a dead child killed by that murdering scumbag are both equally dead, Don't read further into what I am saying. Fur companies are killing animals within the letter of the law. PETA attacks these companies because the FEEL it is wrong, They destroy property and businesses. They also kill animals letft and right. Thousands a year. This is also legal. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of it, as stated in my original point. For the record I'm vehemently pro-life and vehemently pro death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #23 February 27, 2012 QuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #24 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. I edited my previous post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #25 February 27, 2012 "Ethical" treatment of animals does not necessarily exclude euthanizing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
quade 4 #7 February 26, 2012 QuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. They have your address. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #9 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. They have your address. Yes. I hear they got Anonymous to hacked their way into the omahasteaks.com address book.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #10 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. Wow. I was expecting a weak argument from the far leftists on this site, but I didn't expect it to be anywhere near this weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites usedtajump 1 #11 February 27, 2012 It was a weak subject to begin with.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #12 February 27, 2012 How about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #13 February 27, 2012 No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. This is a quote YOU should live by"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #14 February 27, 2012 I'm not too fond of PETA and some of the other 'animal rights groups' who tear at human emotions to get money. I especially dis-like their anti meat industry campaign and the lies they spread about it. I wonder... how many of them are strict vegans? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #15 February 27, 2012 QuoteHow about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. They have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? No, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. They only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #16 February 27, 2012 QuoteThey have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? For the same reason Ford doesn't build a shelter. They're not in the sheltering business. QuoteNo, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. I'm pretty sure PETA spokespeople are volunteers. I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it. Please show me PETA protests of humane pet euthanasia. I'd love to see that. All killings are not equal. QuoteThey only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Seriously? What would you have them do with the euthanized cats, dogs, and other pets? Make purses out of them? You'd be on here faster than shit to criticize them for that. There are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #17 February 27, 2012 QuoteThere are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? I've always wondered where the placenta comes from which is used in women's shampoo products... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #18 February 27, 2012 Quote All killings are not equal. I will get back to your other points but I want this one to float out there for a while. This is why I will always fight against self righteous liberals. This statement right here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #19 February 27, 2012 Do you support the death penalty? How about abortion? Are soldier who kill in combat murderers?Are you in favor of making murder legal? Still think all killing is equal? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #20 February 27, 2012 QuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #21 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #22 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. You are missing my point completely. A dead murdering scumbag and a dead child killed by that murdering scumbag are both equally dead, Don't read further into what I am saying. Fur companies are killing animals within the letter of the law. PETA attacks these companies because the FEEL it is wrong, They destroy property and businesses. They also kill animals letft and right. Thousands a year. This is also legal. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of it, as stated in my original point. For the record I'm vehemently pro-life and vehemently pro death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #23 February 27, 2012 QuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #24 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. I edited my previous post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #25 February 27, 2012 "Ethical" treatment of animals does not necessarily exclude euthanizing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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Remster 30 #9 February 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMore of the good liberal value system. I'm pretty liberal and I despise PETA. They have your address. Yes. I hear they got Anonymous to hacked their way into the omahasteaks.com address book.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Trafficdiver 8 #10 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. Wow. I was expecting a weak argument from the far leftists on this site, but I didn't expect it to be anywhere near this weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites usedtajump 1 #11 February 27, 2012 It was a weak subject to begin with.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #12 February 27, 2012 How about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #13 February 27, 2012 No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. This is a quote YOU should live by"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #10 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteOnce again it's a case of liberals asking you to do what they say, not what they do. No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. Wow. I was expecting a weak argument from the far leftists on this site, but I didn't expect it to be anywhere near this weak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #11 February 27, 2012 It was a weak subject to begin with.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #12 February 27, 2012 How about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 February 27, 2012 No. It's a case of one, very small, very specific group of people, doing something and it being reported with a heavy amount of bias by another very small, very specific group of people, that is against them. This is a quote YOU should live by"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 February 27, 2012 I'm not too fond of PETA and some of the other 'animal rights groups' who tear at human emotions to get money. I especially dis-like their anti meat industry campaign and the lies they spread about it. I wonder... how many of them are strict vegans? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #15 February 27, 2012 QuoteHow about this argument: What your hit piece failed to mention is that PETA doesn't run an animal shelter. They basically run a euthanasia service for other local shelters. When an animal gets to PETA, it has pretty much been decided that it is unadoptable. PETA chooses to provide this service because the alternative is either the animal living out its life in a cage, or being released onto the street to fend for itself. I believe PETA's opinion is that humane euthanasia is ethically preferable. I agree. They have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? No, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. They only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #16 February 27, 2012 QuoteThey have an annual budget of 34 million. That's every year, you're telling me they can't build a shelter? For the same reason Ford doesn't build a shelter. They're not in the sheltering business. QuoteNo, because they spend that money on big time celebrities (if Alecia Silverstone counts) and protests bitching about other companies that do the same thing they do...kill animals. Not only do they bitch they destroy property as well. I'm pretty sure PETA spokespeople are volunteers. I could be wrong about this, but I doubt it. Please show me PETA protests of humane pet euthanasia. I'd love to see that. All killings are not equal. QuoteThey only difference is the other companies then use parts or all of the animal to make products which benefit humans, where as they just burn the bodies and they benefit no one. So again, how is that not hypocritical? Seriously? What would you have them do with the euthanized cats, dogs, and other pets? Make purses out of them? You'd be on here faster than shit to criticize them for that. There are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 February 27, 2012 QuoteThere are no US animal shelters use euthanized pets to make products. That would be a little sick, don't you think? I've always wondered where the placenta comes from which is used in women's shampoo products... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #18 February 27, 2012 Quote All killings are not equal. I will get back to your other points but I want this one to float out there for a while. This is why I will always fight against self righteous liberals. This statement right here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #19 February 27, 2012 Do you support the death penalty? How about abortion? Are soldier who kill in combat murderers?Are you in favor of making murder legal? Still think all killing is equal? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #20 February 27, 2012 QuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #21 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #22 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you support the death penalty? Outcome = Death QuoteHow about abortion? Outcome = Death QuoteAre soldier who kill in combat murderers? Outcome = Death QuoteAre you in favor of making murder legal? No QuoteStill think all killing is equal? Yes So, if a criminal rapes and kills a woman, that's bad. But if the woman shoots and kills the criminal who is trying to rape and kill her, that's equally bad? Wrong. The thing that's wrong with your view is that you're looking only at the final result, and not at who the people are that are dying, and why they're dying. All deaths are equal only in that they are deaths. All deaths are not equal in the reasons and judgements about why they got that way. The death of an innocent is a tragedy, that they didn't ask for. The death of a violent criminal is justice, that they knew was possible outcome of their behavior and voluntarily chose to continue anyway. You are missing my point completely. A dead murdering scumbag and a dead child killed by that murdering scumbag are both equally dead, Don't read further into what I am saying. Fur companies are killing animals within the letter of the law. PETA attacks these companies because the FEEL it is wrong, They destroy property and businesses. They also kill animals letft and right. Thousands a year. This is also legal. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of it, as stated in my original point. For the record I'm vehemently pro-life and vehemently pro death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #23 February 27, 2012 QuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #24 February 27, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't read further into what I am saying. Maybe you should try to relate what you are saying to the thread. Right now, it looks like you are saying that it doesn't matter how something ended up dead, only that it did. That's a ridiculous position, as has been pointed out. If your position is more nuanced, please educate us. I edited my previous post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #25 February 27, 2012 "Ethical" treatment of animals does not necessarily exclude euthanizing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
