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[christelsabine 1]

What's your home planet?

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[rushmc 23]

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What's your home planet?

Looking for a place to go?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,594]

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The actual idea of recompinsated carbon is from using a secret elemint called re-ice - designed to quickly builed protiens - for organ transplants - re-ice was first used in the military dearing veitnam - a myth on not something populare to talk about amongest officers-- killed off by poor funding -- but seen in privite sectors -- -- the lie --is did re-ice effectivly rebuild a living soldier -- can or will the privet sector use this technology- to lengthin age? - and does liquid carbon - formed from others give a re-ice victim from war the right of wrath. Can you come back in the future and kill the past? - why wear you sent to that war anyway - and what does it all mean? Truth-- People will kill others in this place for magic - and to keep it a secret - -wrather then seeing it and living freely for eachother in love - we pull on it and hate it for its distance - Death has no place - -it becomes a lie when you study.

And what about Ice 9? They'll never tell us the truth about that one.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,110]

>If you want your dead body to be used for something, and others are willing to accept
>your gift, that's great. However, your wishes should not be forced upon others who
>don't want them. . . . there may be a lot of people who are uncomfortable with the
>idea, and their feelings deserve respect too.

You know, freedom is funny like that. Freedom does not include a guarantee that you will never be offended. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Because freedom means everyone is free to do things that you may not like, it pretty much guarantees that you WILL be offended. Learn to get used to it. Because the alternative, where things you don't like get banned, also means that things other people don't like get banned. And when everyone is banning everything, then there's no more freedom, including your own.

[rehmwa 2]

Look, if the bodies are stacked up neatly in a nice little rack so the team can just grab them with hooks and throw them on the fire as needed, then that's fine (I'm sure some wacko has the picture in his head).

I'm sure they wouldn't need to harvest supplemental bodies terribly often, if they cover the pools at night. And, I'm sure there's plenty of fuel available just in the alleys and bars to keep the fire going all the time.

And the smell would be wonderful.

I mean, really, how can they NOT do this?


(seriously, those kilns have to be super hot to get the burn needed for a proper cremation - letting the excess heat just escape after each operation is idiotic. Finding a use for that heat is a great idea. However, announcing that they are using this heat is, again, idiotic. It's not really the business of the customers to know about that heat, any more than they deserved to know what brand of brushes are used to sweep the floor in the office.)

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[kallend 2,146]

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As usual with JR, the beam in one's own eye gets ignored while pointing out the mote in someone else's.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[JohnRich 4]

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As usual with JR, the beam in one's own eye gets ignored while pointing out the mote in someone else's.

I didn't realize that in order to discuss a topic, that one also had a duty to mention every other possible related subject at the same time.

If you have some point to make, have the guts to just come right out and say it, instead of playing these childish games.

Also, you should quit taking cheap shots at me like this. It's unbecoming.

And since youi seem to think that bringing up other cases of disrespect for the dead is so important, you failed yourself to mention the instances where funeral homes have dumped bodies in the woods instead of actually burying them, to save money. You had a duty to report these cases in this thread, and yet you remained silent and said nothing. What a brute you are! How could you ignore this travesty of justice, and the cruel treatment of the emotions of the families of these poor dead victims. How could you?! Obviously, you have no respect for the dead.

See how easy that is?

[jakee 1,594]

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I didn't realize that in order to discuss a topic, that one also had a duty to mention every other possible related subject at the same time.

Indeed not. Although you do have to actually discuss the topic. Care to address any of the questions and counterpoints raised in the thread so far?



(Or even, god forbid, make your own opinion known)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,146]

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As usual with JR, the beam in one's own eye gets ignored while pointing out the mote in someone else's.

I didn't realize that in order to discuss a topic, that one also had a duty to mention every other possible related subject at the same time.

If you have some point to make, have the guts to just come right out and say it, instead of playing these childish games.

Also, you should quit taking cheap shots at me like this. It's unbecoming.

And since youi seem to think that bringing up other cases of disrespect for the dead is so important, you failed yourself to mention the instances where funeral homes have dumped bodies in the woods instead of actually burying them, to save money. You had a duty to report these cases in this thread, and yet you remained silent and said nothing. What a brute you are! How could you ignore this travesty of justice, and the cruel treatment of the emotions of the families of these poor dead victims. How could you?! Obviously, you have no respect for the dead.

See how easy that is?

I'm not the one starting a thread trying to drum up some phony outrage. That would be you.

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[JohnRich 4]

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I'm not the one starting a thread trying to drum up some phony outrage. That would be you.

I posted two messages here, #1 and #21, on this subject, before you started your personal attacks. There's no phony outrage by me, or even real outrage, in either one. All I did was present the controversy for civil discussion. It would seem that the "phony outrage" from me is only a perception in your own mind.

You really should try to learn how to discuss things using facts, logic and explanations, and just skip all the personal attack stuff. You don't win debates and earn respect with personal attacks.

[jakee 1,594]

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You don't win debates and earn respect with personal attacks.

You don't win them by never taking a stance, either. You wont lose but you can't win.

What do you think?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Snowwhite 0]

For years I wondered why they didn't build greenhouses over landfills, and use the methane they were burning for heat. Now they do.

It just makes sense. When I'm gone, use me for the most logical purpose. I'm good with that. While I'm here, I'm gonna swim in a warm pool. I'm logical like that.

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[JohnRich 4]

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You don't win debates and earn respect with personal attacks.

You don't win them by never taking a stance, either. You wont lose but you can't win.
What do you think?

I don't have a position because I don't care one way or the other.

What I thought is that it would be a good topic for discussion, but instead, too many people are only interested in sniping at each other, so it'a all shit, as usual.

[billvon 3,110]

>I don't have a position because I don't care one way or the other.
>but instead, too many people are only interested in sniping at each other so it'a all shit

Pot, meet kettle.

[CornishChris 5]

This was the quote I liked:

And in this pool discussion, there may be a lot of people who are uncomfortable with the idea, and their feelings deserve respect too. There are long-standing cultural ideas at play here, that have very deep roots, and they aren't overridden easily.

- Please apply the same level headed mentality to any future discussions about guns, or does it not apply to that situation?

CJP

Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

[mnealtx 0]

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This was the quote I liked:

And in this pool discussion, there may be a lot of people who are uncomfortable with the idea, and their feelings deserve respect too. There are long-standing cultural ideas at play here, that have very deep roots, and they aren't overridden easily.

- Please apply the same level headed mentality to any future discussions about guns, or does it not apply to that situation?

Sure thing - as soon as the antis start applying that level-headedness to their arguments.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Coreece 190]

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This was the quote I liked:

And in this pool discussion, there may be a lot of people who are uncomfortable with the idea, and their feelings deserve respect too. There are long-standing cultural ideas at play here, that have very deep roots, and they aren't overridden easily.

- Please apply the same level headed mentality to any future discussions about guns, or does it not apply to that situation?

Harsh ridicule seems to be the only level headed response to someone so tactless they not only blame law abiding proponents of 2nd amendment rights for mass murder but also accuses them of being happy to sacrifice the victims.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[DanG 1]

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Harsh ridicule seems to be the only level headed response to someone so tactless they not only blame law abiding proponents of 2nd amendment rights for mass murder but also accuses them of being happy to sacrifice the victims.

Huh. When someone accused me of supporting genocide because I'm pro-animal rights, you didn't seem to have a problem with that. In fact, you blamed me for reacting to the statement at all.

Double standard much?

- Dan G

[Coreece 190]

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Harsh ridicule seems to be the only level headed response to someone so tactless they not only blame law abiding proponents of 2nd amendment rights for mass murder but also accuses them of being happy to sacrifice the victims.

Huh. When someone accused me of supporting genocide because I'm pro-animal rights, you didn't seem to have a problem with that. In fact, you blamed me for reacting to the statement at all.

Nah...How do you figure?

What you wrote:
"When you state I must be in favor of genocide because I'm in favor of animal right, then you are an asshole."

My response:
"Just recently we had our resident hoplophobe basically accuse gunners of being in favor of mass murder because they were in favor of second amendment rights."

For those following the gun threads I figured it would be clear who I was referring to. I wasn't talking about you specifically, but hey, if the shoe fits...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[DanG 1]

Well, your whole post was about how mean spirited and condescending the "liberals" are to the righteous righties. I'm just trying to point out that you seem to have no problem with mean spirited, nasty comments when they are from your side.

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"Just recently we had our resident hoplophobe basically accuse gunners of being in favor of mass murder because they were in favor of second amendment rights."

If someone actually said that (I don't really read the gun threads too closely, they are all the same) then they are an asshole, too.

- Dan G

[Coreece 190]

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Well, your whole post was about how mean spirited and condescending the "liberals" are

I'll admit that my generalization of liberals and lumping them together as mean spirited hoplophobic christophobes was unfair and the reason why some of you were offended...my bad.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[jakee 1,594]

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What I thought is that it would be a good topic for discussion, but instead, too many people are only interested in sniping at each other, so it'a all shit, as usual.

Well, since you don't care then that shouldn't matter. Now maybe if you'd responded to any of the people telling you that you presented the topic in a misleading fashion there could have been a discussion, but you chose to ignore them so you can't really complain.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[JohnRich 4]

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What I thought is that it would be a good topic for discussion, but instead, too many people are only interested in sniping at each other, so it'a all shit, as usual.

Well, since you don't care then that shouldn't matter. Now maybe if you'd responded to any of the people telling you that you presented the topic in a misleading fashion there could have been a discussion, but you chose to ignore them so you can't really complain.

I'm not responsible for other people's misconceptions about how the topic was presented. If they think it was misleading, they should detail why they think so, not just level an accusation with no support for it. If they can't be bothered to explain their position, why should I bother to respond? In fact, without specificity on their part, there's nothing for me to respond to.

Furthermore, I don't care to participate in the incessant back-and-forth sniping that is all too common here, causing things to devolve into useless crap, like we now have here. Ignoring them is often the best way to handle such things. I say my piece and move on, and if others want to continue to harass me over and over again, that's their problem. But if a person has nothing better to say than to hurl unsupported allegations of "wrongdoing" or personal insults, then what does that say about their position, and about them as a person? It means that they have no facts or logic to support their view, so instead they just resort to character assassination - in other words, they know they've lost the argument, and they're bitter about it, so they lash out the way a weak mind will.

One does not become the winner of a debate by hurling the biggest insult or the most insults. But some people seem to operate that way. The intelligent mind recognizes that it is what someone says with facts and logic that carrys the day, even if they only say it once. Those are the people whose opinions are important to me, not the insulters.

And just like the word "gun-o-phobia" makes people crazy, there's also the miso-John (John-o-haters) factor. My detractors hate me so much that they allow their hatred to miscolor their perception of what I say. My message #1 in this thread is a perfectly reasonable introduction to a discussion of a controversial topic, and yet look at how some demonize me for somehow misrepresenting things, not stating my own position, blah blah blah. These people need to get a grip on themselves, step back from their usual modality of hate and insults, and try reading things and writing responses with a fresh outlook once again.

I now return you to the usual program of hate and sniping.

[christelsabine 1]

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What I thought is that it would be a good topic for discussion, but instead, too many people are only interested in sniping at each other, so it'a all shit, as usual.

Well, since you don't care then that shouldn't matter. Now maybe if you'd responded to any of the people telling you that you presented the topic in a misleading fashion there could have been a discussion, but you chose to ignore them so you can't really complain.

I'm not responsible for other people's misconceptions about how the topic was presented. If they think it was misleading, they should detail why they think so, not just level an accusation with no support for it. If they can't be bothered to explain their position, why should I bother to respond? In fact, without specificity on their part, there's nothing for me to respond to.

Furthermore, I don't care to participate in the incessant back-and-forth sniping that is all too common here, causing things to devolve into useless crap, like we now have here. Ignoring them is often the best way to handle such things. I say my piece and move on, and if others want to continue to harass me over and over again, that's their problem. But if a person has nothing better to say than to hurl unsupported allegations of "wrongdoing" or personal insults, then what does that say about their position, and about them as a person? It means that they have no facts or logic to support their view, so instead they just resort to character assassination - in other words, they know they've lost the argument, and they're bitter about it, so they lash out the way a weak mind will.

One does not become the winner of a debate by hurling the biggest insult or the most insults. But some people seem to operate that way. The intelligent mind recognizes that it is what someone says with facts and logic that carrys the day, even if they only say it once. Those are the people whose opinions are important to me, not the insulters.

And just like the word "gun-o-phobia" makes people crazy, there's also the miso-John (John-o-haters) factor. My detractors hate me so much that they allow their hatred to miscolor their perception of what I say. My message #1 in this thread is a perfectly reasonable introduction to a discussion of a controversial topic, and yet look at how some demonize me for somehow misrepresenting things, not stating my own position, blah blah blah. These people need to get a grip on themselves, step back from their usual modality of hate and insults, and try reading things and writing responses with a fresh outlook once again.

I now return you to the usual program of hate and sniping.

Crap.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[JohnRich 4]

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Crap.

A perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about.