lawrocket 3 #1 February 23, 2012 This is a natural question that is raised by the Heartland affair. What should be taught, if anything? And why? Isn't that what the Heartland matter is really about? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #2 February 23, 2012 Teach them from 2 perspectives: 1 - Just the facts; what we do know about climate cycles and their impact to the geology, flora, and fauna of the planet. Also, the delicate balance our biosphere is in that allows for life as we know it. 2 - The policies and positions of various parties so they can get a good understanding of the hazards of politicizing a topic." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #3 February 23, 2012 QuoteThis is a natural question that is raised by the Heartland affair. What should be taught, if anything? And why? Isn't that what the Heartland matter is really about? I think instructional videos should be part of the curriculum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #4 February 23, 2012 The science. We know that these chemicals are green house gasses and here is why, please note their chemical structure and their ability to reflect energy. This is what happens when you burn hydro carbons. Now you do the math. Never ever argue with science. It always wins. For unlike imaginary friends it can be trusted to not only be accountable and repeatable.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #5 February 23, 2012 >What should be taught, if anything? And why? The science. Leave the political opinions for current events class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #6 February 23, 2012 Quote>What should be taught, if anything? And why? The science. Leave the political opinions for current events class. I concur, the science (all of it, including the many years of cyclic weather the Scientists are documenting). Politics and the use of "weather" for political gain should be a current events of World Politics class item. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
femTo 0 #7 February 23, 2012 the only thing kids should be tought is the "need for knowledge" and the rest they learn by themself... but then you would need a new system... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #8 February 23, 2012 Quote We know that these chemicals are green house gasses Every gaseous molecule that has dissimilar atoms is a green house gas...We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 February 23, 2012 Quote For unlike imaginary friends it can be trusted to not only be accountable and repeatable. Then go and ask them to recreate Gore’s experiment with or without faking it (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #10 February 23, 2012 >Every gaseous molecule that has dissimilar atoms is a green house gas... ?? So is ozone. That doesn't have dissimilar atoms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 February 23, 2012 Teach them that there are various scientific opinions, just as you would teach them the other various scientific opinions concerning the lunar landings, 911, and big foot. Children should be first taught the basics of the scientific method. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 February 23, 2012 Quotethe only thing kids should be tought is the "need for knowledge" and the rest they learn by themself... but then you would need a new system... Love that sentiment ... over simplistic but basically sound - Thanks (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 February 23, 2012 Quote Children should be first taught the basics of the scientific method. What about the scientific wild ass guesses about the earth in 2100? The antithesis of scientific method because the conclusions cannot be tested until, oh, 2100. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #14 February 23, 2012 QuoteQuote We know that these chemicals are green house gasses Every gaseous molecule that has dissimilar atoms is a green house gas... Never argue with science. It is relentless and emotionless. It doesn't care who you are or what you are or how much you make or how close you feel to you imaginary friend..science is always be right. And if it's not it does one better...it spits out new better more refined science. Kids these gasses are green house gasses and here is how they work.... No matter what your parents imaginary friend says these gasses will always and forever be green house gases and they will continue to act this way long after your parents are dead and decomposing and themselves pumping out greenhouse gasses. The long and short of it, you, your parents, and your imaginary friend will all be gone but the science...it will continue on and on and on.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 February 23, 2012 QuoteKids these gasses are green house gasses and here is how they work The scientist would actually view the term "greenhouse gases" to be inaccurate because the effect in an actual greenhouse is due to the trapping of convective radiation inside the greenhouse and not from the reflection of longwave infrared radiation. So how "scientific" should we be? Science doesn't lie, but the scientists who interpret it certainly do. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #16 February 23, 2012 Go argue with Venus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus Do not argue with science. You will always and forever loose. Think of it as god....that you can count on 100% of the time. With the exception of quantum science where you can count on it only 50% of the time and the other 50% it's arguing with itself.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #17 February 23, 2012 I’ll count on quantum 50% of the time – more and less. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #18 February 23, 2012 QuoteI’ll count on quantum 50% of the time – more and less. Depends on the cat! But seriously teach the science. If you don't like the science then well there is a way in which one can go about obtaining the appropriate education and publication of a theory for peer review and validation. If your version of science supersedes what came before, congrats. If not? Tough titties! Your average person who is a graduate of the Glen Beck Educational system and who has the IQ of a twice boiled carrot....will never understand science and thus will point out outliers and build their beliefs on them. As an old professor once said "Jesus said he walked on water, the rest of us would drown. Don't be an idiot and think you can walk on water just because one person said they did."Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 February 23, 2012 Quote What should be taught, if anything? And why? "If your daddy drives a hummer/make that Escalade for currency, the polar bears will drown." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 February 23, 2012 Neither No way this topic can be taught without agendas attached (from either side) It is not necessary in k through 12 Nothing to be gained by that other than to brainwash"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #21 February 23, 2012 There is an agenda in basic chemistry? How so?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 February 23, 2012 QuoteThere is an agenda in basic chemistry? How so? Not the chemistry itself How it is presented has issues however"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 February 23, 2012 QuoteThere is an agenda in basic chemistry? How so? if this were basic chemistry, we'd be dead by now, living on Venus II. Reality is somewhat more complicated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #24 February 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteThere is an agenda in basic chemistry? How so? Not the chemistry itself How it is presented has issues however hu? CH4 + 2 O2 → CO2 + 2 H2O 2 CH4 + 3 O2 → 2 CO + 4 H2O N2 + O2 → 2 NO N2 + 2 O2 → 2 NO2 this is what now?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #25 February 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteThere is an agenda in basic chemistry? How so? if this were basic chemistry, we'd be dead by now, living on Venus II. Reality is somewhat more complicated. Equations pleaseLife through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
