shah269 0 #51 February 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteFuck, I forgot about time travel and the Amish. Hey at least they don't have any guns! Or are forcing us by gun point to live our lives as they live theirs. What, the Amish don't have any guns? What parallel universe is that? The Amish are pacifists. Why would they have guns? Nice people and all and I respect them for sticking to their religious and cultural beliefs. And their wood work and food is great! However we are so lucky that they do not have any political capital or real ammunition to force the rest of us to adopt their view of life liberty and justice for some. AKA....much as how it is in Iran. A once liberal forward leaning country ready to embrace the 21st century and to develop a vibrant middle class....is now handicapped by some dumb asses who claim to be doing gods work here on earth in hopes that not only they but all of those they oppress may one day reach heaven and a return to the good old days.....which according to the mullahs is 1300. I have no idea how any educated person would find the above sentence at all appealing. For those who lived it and or are living in it find it appalling.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #52 February 22, 2012 QuoteFrom the Library of Congress: "The first two Presidents of the United States were patrons of religion--George Washington was an Episcopal vestryman, and John Adams described himself as "a church going animal." Both offered strong rhetorical support for religion. In his Farewell Address of September 1796, Washington called religion, as the source of morality, "a necessary spring of popular government," while Adams claimed that statesmen "may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand." Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, the third and fourth Presidents, are generally considered less hospitable to religion than their predecessors, but evidence presented in this section shows that, while in office, both offered religion powerful symbolic support." Being a little selective on our quotes are we ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #53 February 22, 2012 QuoteThe Amish are pacifists. Why would they have guns? do they eat meat? is shooting fun? are guns a great example of fine craftsmanship? are they allowed to own property? I don't see your false assumption that 'pacifists' = anti-gun Quotetheir view of life liberty and justice for some. Do you have any personal experience with the Amish to be making this statement? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #54 February 22, 2012 No i was stating that they are not likely to utilize their guns to force us to accept their view of god and interpretation of religion.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #55 February 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFuck, I forgot about time travel and the Amish. Hey at least they don't have any guns! Or are forcing us by gun point to live our lives as they live theirs. What, the Amish don't have any guns? What parallel universe is that? The Amish are pacifists. Why would they have guns? They have guns to hunt. Amish have lots of guns. The old order Mennonites that live near me also have lots of guns. In fact there are several local Mennonite gunsmiths near me."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #56 February 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe Amish are pacifists. Why would they have guns? do they eat meat? is shooting fun? are guns a great example of fine craftsmanship? are they allowed to own property? I don't see your false assumption that 'pacifists' = anti-gun Quotetheir view of life liberty and justice for some. Do you have any personal experience with the Amish to be making this statement? [url] This made me curious, since I know the Amish eschew modern technology, so I looked it up. One Amish-info website I found says they will own and use guns for hunting and pest control, but not as weapons against people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #57 February 22, 2012 http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/doglockblunderbuss1.jpg Yeah high end right there! Wrong color! But very high end for 1502!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites