Coreece 190 #201 February 24, 2012 I see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #202 February 24, 2012 QuoteI see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now... Nope.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #203 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Quoterestrictions need to exist to prevent these weapons from getting into the hands of criminals. No firearms to people with a history of domestic violence, nor to ex-cons nor those with mental disorders that tend to lead to violence against others. We already have these rules.... The criminals ignore them. Let me summarize your position: We have rules that forbid certain undesirables from getting guns. We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. Therefore criminals circumvent the rules. Therefore there's no sense in having rules. So, what changes do you suggest that would stop criminals from circumventing laws? Asked and answered previously. Learn to use the "Search" function.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #204 February 24, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote restrictions need to exist to prevent these weapons from getting into the hands of criminals. No firearms to people with a history of domestic violence, nor to ex-cons nor those with mental disorders that tend to lead to violence against others. We already have these rules.... The criminals ignore them. Let me summarize your position: We have rules that forbid certain undesirables from getting guns. We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. Therefore criminals circumvent the rules. Therefore there's no sense in having rules. So, what changes do you suggest that would stop criminals from circumventing laws? Asked and answered previously. Learn to use the "Search" function. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #205 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteI see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now... Nope. So what's your point then... A felon can illegally buy a shotgun/rifle with or without a requirement for an NICS check... They specialize in breaking the law...they will break whatever law you make...that's what they do. They're professionals.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #206 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now... Nope. So what's your point then... A felon can illegally buy a shotgun/rifle with or without a requirement for an NICS check... They specialize in breaking the law...they will break whatever law you make...that's what they do. They're professionals. Is that a reason to make it trivially easy for them to break the law? I wonder why banks lock their vaults at night, if bank robbers are going to rob banks anyway.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #207 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now... Nope. So what's your point then... A felon can illegally buy a shotgun/rifle with or without a requirement for an NICS check... They specialize in breaking the law...they will break whatever law you make...that's what they do. They're professionals. Is that a reason to make it trivially easy for them to break the law? I wonder why banks lock their vaults at night, if bank robbers are going to rob banks anyway. Locking a bank vault doesn't infringe on anybody's rights to access their money nor does it make such access unnecessarily inconvenient...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #208 February 24, 2012 QuoteAre you claiming that a NICS check is required of ALL gun purchases? A NICS check is required for all sales by a dealer, regardless of the location. QuoteOr is it just that you still don't know the definition of a strawman? Maybe you're thinking of "straw purchase", a common way for disqualified people to buy a gun while evading a background check. Wrong on that one, too. Maybe you should quit while you're (way) behind.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #209 February 24, 2012 QuoteWe have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. So, you can show those criminals that have been arrested for illegally attempting to buy a gun from the local gunstore? By all means, lets see the numbers - you'd think 0bama and Holder would be trumpeting them from the rooftops. QuoteTherefore criminals circumvent the rules. See above.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #210 February 24, 2012 QuoteAsked and answered previously. Learn to use the "Search" function. You mean the lie about enforcing the EXISTING laws, since they're mute on the private sales you keep trying to claim are bypassing the law?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #211 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteAre you claiming that a NICS check is required of ALL gun purchases? A NICS check is required for all sales by a dealer, regardless of the location. Are ALL gun sales made by dealers? Try a little honesty for a change.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #212 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteWe have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. So, you can show those criminals that have been arrested for illegally attempting to buy a gun from the local gunstore? Just because some criminals are stupid, doesn't mean all are.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #213 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI see so you just prefer other illegal means of felons getting guns through more laws that are easy to circumvent as long as it is more of an inconvenience for responsible gun owners... I see you now... Nope. So what's your point then... A felon can illegally buy a shotgun/rifle with or without a requirement for an NICS check... They specialize in breaking the law...they will break whatever law you make...that's what they do. They're professionals. Is that a reason to make it trivially easy for them to break the law? I wonder why banks lock their vaults at night, if bank robbers are going to rob banks anyway. Locking a bank vault doesn't infringe on anybody's rights to access their money nor does it make such access unnecessarily inconvenient... Requiring a background check on ALL purchases doesn't infringe on the rights of law abiding, sane citizens. I realize that you are happy to sacrifice people like Cho's victims and Rep. Giffords just so that you aren't inconvenienced.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #214 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteAsked and answered previously. Learn to use the "Search" function. You mean the lie about enforcing the EXISTING laws, since they're mute on the private sales you keep trying to claim are bypassing the law? Red herring. Existing laws are NOT mute about prohibiting certain classes of people from buying guns. However, in 33 states anyone can go to a gun show, including convicted felons, and buy a gun from an unlicensed dealer with no check whatsoever.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #215 February 24, 2012 Quote Requiring a background check on ALL purchases doesn't infringe on the rights of law abiding, sane citizens. Look at this guy...He bitches about laws that are easy to circumvent and then proposes more...What a joke...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #216 February 24, 2012 Quote Quote Requiring a background check on ALL purchases doesn't infringe on the rights of law abiding, sane citizens. Look at this guy...He bitches about laws that are easy to circumvent and then proposes more...What a joke... Cho's victims are a joke to you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #217 February 24, 2012 no, you are...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #218 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteAre you claiming that a NICS check is required of ALL gun purchases? A NICS check is required for all sales by a dealer, regardless of the location. Are ALL gun sales made by dealers? Try a little honesty for a change. Apparently what you're getting at, is that you want private gun sales banned, and want a law that would force gun sales between private individuals to go through gun dealers with a background check. Of course, the criminals would just ignore that law too, and instead it would increase the cost and hassle to all the honest gun purchasers. The only question is why you don't just come right out and say this, and instead perfer to play all these snippity games with everyone. Why is it that you can't just say what you mean, and mean what you say? Why not just get right down to the point of contention, instead of spending all this time being evasive? And if you are unwilling to speak frankly and candidly, why should we give your comments any credibility or consideration? Things have been much more peaceful in here in the absence of another certain person who had a nasty style. What animosity remains is mostly caused by this kind of petty debate style of yours. "Honesty"? What we need is more direct honesty from you, instead of all these petty games. How ironic it is that you call for honesty from others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #219 February 24, 2012 Quotebuy a gun from an unlicensed dealer There's no such thing as an "unlicensed dealer". Dealers are licensed. If you don't have a license, you're not a dealer. Anything done without a license becomes a private sale. So you have either licensed dealers or private sales. That's it. The whole mantra of "unlicensed dealers" is an invention of the gun-o-phobe lobby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #220 February 24, 2012 QuoteWhy is it the anti-gun crowd refuses to admit that most gun owners don't do anything wrong? Why is that people read, a gun is more effective at killing than a bat, but understand: "all gun owners do something wrong"? Is it just a general stupidity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #221 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteOf course I am worried about the object. And yet when people say you have an irrational fear of guns you claim that it is not true. Fact is that I am more worried about the ATTACKER than the weapon. Because a gun by itself does absolutely nothing.*** Right, another captain obvious.... Except when the attacker drops his paperclip he was trying to stab you with and picks up an ak47, the threat level just went up a little bit. Unless off course you are Chuck Norris, or DaVinci because you won't be worried at all, cause the attacker is the only thing that matters. The tool used is completely irrelevant.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #222 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteOf course I am worried about the object. And yet when people say you have an irrational fear of guns you claim that it is not true. Fact is that I am more worried about the ATTACKER than the weapon. Because a gun by itself does absolutely nothing.*** Right, another captain obvious.... Except when the attacker drops his paperclip he was trying to stab you with and picks up an ak47, the threat level just went up a little bit. Unless off course you are Chuck Norris, or DaVinci because you won't be worried at all, cause the attacker is the only thing that matters. The tool used is completely irrelevant.... Do you get your replies from Walter Mitty?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #223 February 24, 2012 QuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #224 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Ah As defined by Mr Mitty I get it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #225 February 24, 2012 Quote Let me summarize your position: . . . We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. Therefore criminals circumvent the rules. Therefore there's no sense in having rules. Silly logic and wrong on all fronts.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 9 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
rushmc 23 #222 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteOf course I am worried about the object. And yet when people say you have an irrational fear of guns you claim that it is not true. Fact is that I am more worried about the ATTACKER than the weapon. Because a gun by itself does absolutely nothing.*** Right, another captain obvious.... Except when the attacker drops his paperclip he was trying to stab you with and picks up an ak47, the threat level just went up a little bit. Unless off course you are Chuck Norris, or DaVinci because you won't be worried at all, cause the attacker is the only thing that matters. The tool used is completely irrelevant.... Do you get your replies from Walter Mitty?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #223 February 24, 2012 QuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #224 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Ah As defined by Mr Mitty I get it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #225 February 24, 2012 Quote Let me summarize your position: . . . We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. Therefore criminals circumvent the rules. Therefore there's no sense in having rules. Silly logic and wrong on all fronts.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 9 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
SkyDekker 1,465 #223 February 24, 2012 QuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #224 February 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteDo you get your replies from Walter Mitty? Fiction is more bailiwick marc. Ah As defined by Mr Mitty I get it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #225 February 24, 2012 Quote Let me summarize your position: . . . We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx. Therefore criminals circumvent the rules. Therefore there's no sense in having rules. Silly logic and wrong on all fronts.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
