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Let me summarize your position:



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We have rules that forbid certain undesirables from getting guns.

We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx.

Therefore criminals circumvent the rules.

Therefore there's no sense in having rules.



Nope, not even close.... Wanna try again?

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Let me summarize your position:
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We have made these rules trivially easy to circumvent at the urging of the NRA and people like DaVinci and mnealtx.

Therefore criminals circumvent the rules.

Therefore there's no sense in having rules.



Silly logic and wrong on all fronts.


So you agree with kallend's strawman generator/telepathy machine...good for you.:P
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I realize that you are happy to sacrifice people like Cho's victims and Rep. Giffords just so that you aren't inconvenienced.



Wanting to inconvenience others from the guy that cried about the ATF wanting to control toy rocket motors.... AWESOME.

Also, Cho was a failure of REPORTING... You should check your facts.

Giffords shooter should of been prevented as well.... Again, a failure of REPORTING.

You really have no idea about what you are talking about.

But I eagerly await your showing what percentage of gun owners are a problem... You should really know that before you try to legislate the rights from the other 99% (my number, show your own)

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I realize that you are happy to sacrifice people like Cho's victims and Rep. Giffords just so that you aren't inconvenienced.



Wanting to inconvenience others from the guy that cried about the ATF wanting to control toy rocket motors.... AWESOME.

Also, Cho was a failure of REPORTING... You should check your facts.

Giffords shooter should of been prevented as well.... Again, a failure of REPORTING.

You really have no idea about what you are talking about.

But I eagerly await your showing what percentage of gun owners are a problem... You should really know that before you try to legislate the rights from the other 99% (my number, show your own)



Thank you for providing the excuse of the week for inaction over what is a national embarrassment.

It's people like you that enable people like Loughner and Kazmierczak.
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I realize that you are happy to sacrifice people like Cho's victims and Rep. Giffords just so that you aren't inconvenienced.



Wanting to inconvenience others from the guy that cried about the ATF wanting to control toy rocket motors.... AWESOME.

Also, Cho was a failure of REPORTING... You should check your facts.

Giffords shooter should of been prevented as well.... Again, a failure of REPORTING.

You really have no idea about what you are talking about.

But I eagerly await your showing what percentage of gun owners are a problem... You should really know that before you try to legislate the rights from the other 99% (my number, show your own)



Thank you for providing the excuse of the week for inaction over what is a national embarrassment.

It's people like you that enable people like Loughner and Kazmierczak.


You must be trolling. Nobody could be that obtuse.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I realize that you are happy to sacrifice people like Cho's victims and Rep. Giffords just so that you aren't inconvenienced.



Wanting to inconvenience others from the guy that cried about the ATF wanting to control toy rocket motors.... AWESOME.

Also, Cho was a failure of REPORTING... You should check your facts.

Giffords shooter should of been prevented as well.... Again, a failure of REPORTING.

You really have no idea about what you are talking about.

But I eagerly await your showing what percentage of gun owners are a problem... You should really know that before you try to legislate the rights from the other 99% (my number, show your own)



Thank you for providing the excuse of the week for inaction over what is a national embarrassment.

It's people like you that enable people like Loughner and Kazmierczak.



The real embarrassment is that anytime there is a national tragedy people like you feel they have to invent some ineffective rules like the TSA and their porno scanners and Homeland Security and their color codes, simply so you busy bodies feel as though you're "doing something," when all you're actually doing is establishing a false sense of security that only imposes limitations on law abiding citizens and addresses everything but the actual problem.

You bitch about rules you think are ineffective and then propose more of the same ineffective rules. You should really consider running for office...you'd fit in well with all the bureaucratic bozos.
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You mean the lie about enforcing the EXISTING laws, since they're mute on the private sales you keep trying to claim are bypassing the law?



Red herring. Existing laws are NOT mute about prohibiting certain classes of people from buying guns. However, in 33 states anyone can go to a gun show, including convicted felons, and buy a gun from an unlicensed dealer with no check whatsoever.



You need to keep better track of your red herrings, you've got half a dozen laying around the thread.

As usual, you're incorrect on the law - it is illegal to sell to a known felon under GCA 68. Good to see you're still concentrating on that 1% of crime guns while ignoring the 99% - top marks for consistency.

There is no such thing as an 'unlicensed dealer' except in the imagination of anti-gun idiots (but I repeat myself). Those are private sales, and existing law *IS* mute about NICS checks for those sales. Your insistence that NICS check be conducted for private sales is *NOT* consistent with your oft-repeated claim of 'enforcing the *existing* laws'.
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You must be trolling. Nobody could be that obtuse.



Obtuse??

Around here we call it being full of shit.


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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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You must be trolling. Nobody could be that obtuse.



Obtuse??

Around here we call it being full of shit.


I'm a casual kind of guy.
I rarely get all formal and shit.
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My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Thank you for providing the excuse of the week for inaction over what is a national embarrassment.



And thank you for the idea that an individuals rights are not worth anything unless they happen to be to own toy rocket motors.

Fact is that all of your ranting is just noise and hot air. You fail to bring any answers to the problems and just cry about them.

At the same time you demand action to strip citizens of their rights, but cried about the ATF getting involved in model rocket motors. You claim that model rockets are not used in crime..... Well explosives sure as hell are.

AND so I have repeatedly asked you to provide what PERCENTAGE of gun owners/guns are used illegally.... Still waiting on that BTW.

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It's people like you that enable people like Loughner and Kazmierczak.



It is people like you that helped the NAZI's, Pol Pot...etc. "It is OK to trample on the rights I personally don't like" - Kallend.

Fact is that Canada has admitted it's gun registration plan was a total waste of money... 2.7 BILLION or 160 Million a year.... Know how many crimes were solved using this? ZERO.

From 2003-2009 they had 4,257 murders... 1,314 were killed by firearms. In all 1314 murders by firearm.... Less that 10% were actually registered and out of those, on 62 were registered to the person who committed the crime.

So it has been a TOTAL failure, yet you want it here.

Mexico has some of the MOST strict gun laws.... Yet they have one of the highest rates of gun violence.

For a Physics Professor, you seem to be ignorant on statistics. You also seem to allow a personal bias to cloud your judgment. Not exactly the traits that make a good scientist.

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Nice rant.

Methinks you do protest too much.



I think you want to take away rights you don't like.... but cry like a little boy when the ATF wants to register toy motors.....

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If you think I want to take away YOUR right to bear arms, you are either mentally ill or a convicted felon.



1. It is next to impossible to know what you want, since you always avoid answering.

2. From what you have answered you do want the govt to interfere more and make it harder for innocent till proven guilty people to do things that are protected by the Constitution.

3. You have shown an irrational fear of 1% of problems.

Don't blame me for your crippling fear of a 1% chance of an issue and your desire to restrict the rights of people to own an inanimate object.

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Don't blame me for your crippling fear of a 1% chance of an issue and your desire to restrict the rights of people to own an inanimate object.




If you think I want to take away YOUR right to bear arms, you are either mentally ill or a convicted felon.
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If you think I want to take away YOUR right to bear arms, you are either mentally ill or a convicted felon.



TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right?

BINGO!!!

You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not. Gotta man up to do that however, so I will not hold my breath
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise



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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise



What you need is one of these.



Where would you go?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise


What you need is one of these.


Where would you go?


Into the direction of "exercise*, or "exorcise", f.e.? ;)
Take your choice, mate :ph34r:

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise


What you need is one of these.


Where would you go?


Into the direction of "exercise*, or "exorcise", f.e.? ;)
Take your choice, mate :ph34r:


Didnt look at the link

did you....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise


What you need is one of these.


Where would you go?


Into the direction of "exercise*, or "exorcise", f.e.? ;)
Take your choice, mate :ph34r:


Didnt look at the link

did you....


Since you can't tell the difference, why does it matter?
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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



Exorsise the right
Not remove it

Impossible to exorsise


What you need is one of these.


Where would you go?


Into the direction of "exercise*, or "exorcise", f.e.? ;)
Take your choice, mate :ph34r:


Didnt look at the link

did you....


Since you can't tell the difference, why does it matter?


I cant?

ahhhh

Ok



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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>TAKE away our rights? No, I don’t believe so.

>Make it nearly impossible to exorcise this right? BINGO!!!

I think you are correct - and I also don't think you meant to say that.

>You want a default gun ban whether you will admit it outright or not.

You just said he wanted to make it nearly impossible to remove that right.



so begun a rather amusing sub thread of replies.

Ouch, rush.

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