davjohns 1 #2 February 5, 2012 Well that's weird. The results of the poll right now are exactly symetrical between the two extremes.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #3 February 5, 2012 "Religion is for those who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for those that have been through hell." ~unknown George Harrison's Perspective works for me Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 February 5, 2012 I think if you would have just put the descriptions there without the labels, than you'd have a better result. For example - of the bottom four or five I'd only call the very bottom one atheist, and the rest of that area is agnostic. And the top three are pretty much theist. Avoid the labels, and you get less SC type contention I'd be an atheist by your breakdown, and I refuse to accept that label which I consider absolute. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #5 February 5, 2012 I gotta go with Stephen Hawking on that one. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #6 February 5, 2012 Quote "Religion is for those who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for those that have been through hell." ~unknown George Harrison's Perspective works for me The phrase that causes every athiest to roll their eyes..."I'm not religious...I'm spiritual.""Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #7 February 5, 2012 Quote Quote "Religion is for those who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for those that have been through hell." ~unknown George Harrison's Perspective works for me The phrase that causes every athiest to roll their eyes..."I'm not religious...I'm spiritual." Hehe I knew you'd show up with that. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #8 February 5, 2012 TBBT.......Amy Farrah Fowler: I don't object to the concept of a Deity, but I'm baffled by the notion of One that takes attendance." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #9 February 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote "Religion is for those who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for those that have been through hell." ~unknown George Harrison's Perspective works for me The phrase that causes every athiest to roll their eyes..."I'm not religious...I'm spiritual." Hehe I knew you'd show up with that. "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 February 5, 2012 Broaden your horizons Babs...there are differences between being religious, faithful, and spiritual. Your continual appeals to ridicule do not change that fact.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #11 February 5, 2012 QuoteBroaden your horizons Babs...there are differences between being religious, faithful, and spiritual. Your continual appeals to ridicule do not change that fact. But alas, they all share a common thread... I find both the the idea of being "spiritual" and being "religious" equally laughable, as they share the same belief in the supernatural. It's kinda the same way I feel when you throw mud at the other christian denominations, as if your mythology is better than their mythology."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #12 February 5, 2012 Quote But alas, they all share a common thread... I find both the the idea of being "spiritual" and being "religious" equally laughable, as they share the same belief in the supernatural. It's kinda the same way I feel when you throw mud at the other christian denominations, as if your mythology is better than their mythology. Well, for me the "mud throwing" is one of the reasons I can't follow any of the religions that are out there. They are either created by man to exercise control over the masses, or if they were divinely inspired, then they have been perverted b man to exercise control over the masses. That doesn't change my belief in a God of some sort. It's just that I can't follow the specifics of any of the organized religions out there. But many of them do have many very positive aspects. I voted "Theist", but I fall between that and "Weak Theist." I have uncertainties, but I'm not "very" uncertain. To me, the hard core theists and atheists are equally closed minded. Quote"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." I don't know what the truth is. I don't trust anyone who claims to."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #13 February 5, 2012 QuoteThat doesn't change my belief in a God of some sort. Even if there is a God, what does it change for us? God created the universe, and we're rather obviously not the reason he/she/it created it. We're at best an insignificant by-product of the universe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 February 5, 2012 Deficient poll - you left out "religulous". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #15 February 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteBroaden your horizons Babs...there are differences between being religious, faithful, and spiritual. Your continual appeals to ridicule do not change that fact. But alas, they all share a common thread... I find both the the idea of being "spiritual" and being "religious" equally laughable... Ya? Well, ya know...that's just like, uh...your opinion man. QuoteIt's kinda the same way I feel when you throw mud at the other christian denominations, as if your mythology is better than their mythology. Most christian denominations agree on the essentials. The little meaningless trivial issues are not typically a cause of contention. Christianity is based on scripture, so it only makes sense to understand scripture as best we can. I'm more inspired by dedicated men who excercise due dilligence. Their arguments tend to show and understanding of hermeneutic concepts and typically embrace the cultural, historical and circumstantial context of a given time period and generally include an etymological background for any significant terms found in the selected scripture references... I'll take their arguments any day over some 20 year- old fresh outta some 2-year "seminary," who's only concern is to make you feel all warm and fuzzy by blowing hot air up your ass by telling you "this is what the bible means to me, so empty your pockets suckers, I got tuition bills to pay and the senior Pastor needs a new Bentley." No thanks, I could do that by myself if that's what it's about.... Sorry, this craps just pisses me off soo much sometimes...even worse than carnal christians like myself.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #16 February 5, 2012 Yes, Coreece, it's my opinion. I agree with you on the trivial things... Have a good evening, I hope your team wins in the game tonight."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #17 February 5, 2012 Ya...Enjoy the game!I meant to tell you that, but I started to Ramble On and got sidetracked... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #18 February 5, 2012 Quote Christianity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxEkwUMyDUc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #19 February 5, 2012 Quote Quote Christianity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxEkwUMyDUc Dude!!! I implore everyone to check out family guy's religious clips. Hilarious! Here are some of my favorites! Jesus and Vishnu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X7x-DHKHW0 Black Jesus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKIKKXm6Mlk Passion of the Christ II - Crucify This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYU2MZ6edQ Good stuff. eh?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #20 February 5, 2012 Quote "Are you Religious?" NO, NO, and NO... but I'm a believer, funny thing, just today I was hanging out with the LORD, just catching up on whats been happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #21 February 5, 2012 QuoteI think if you would have just put the descriptions there without the labels, than you'd have a better result. For example - of the bottom four or five I'd only call the very bottom one atheist, and the rest of that area is agnostic. And the top three are pretty much theist. Avoid the labels, and you get less SC type contention I'd be an atheist by your breakdown, and I refuse to accept that label which I consider absolute. I love you rehmwa, but you're so freaking pedantic at times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #22 February 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteI think if you would have just put the descriptions there without the labels, than you'd have a better result. For example - of the bottom four or five I'd only call the very bottom one atheist, and the rest of that area is agnostic. And the top three are pretty much theist. Avoid the labels, and you get less SC type contention I'd be an atheist by your breakdown, and I refuse to accept that label which I consider absolute. I love you rehmwa, but you're so freaking pedantic at times. I would've gone with the following labels instead: -Religious Nutter -Jesus Freak -Catholic -Ignoramus -Confused -Jerk/Prick -Complete assholeYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #23 February 6, 2012 So we have 64% who are in touch with reality; and 36% who equate emotional desire with fact." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 February 6, 2012 Quote The phrase that causes every athiest to roll their eyes..."I'm not religious...I'm spiritual." it's such a crock - they are only religious in a PC way maybe they can talk about karma and chant over crystals too.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 February 6, 2012 Quote I love you rehmwa, but you're so freaking pedantic at times. Ok, but I'll have to look that word up. Edit: looked it up, Pedantic - in this thread (and religious threads), yup, looks like it. But In reality, I just get tired of the pedantic nature of threads - so I feel your pain. But you're right. guilty ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
