Santorum wins Iowa

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I wonder why the vote tally in 8 precincts will "never be certified"?

How come an 8-vote lead was a "win" for Romney, but a 34 vote lead for Santorum is a "tie"?

Don

And does this mean Romney is still the only guy to win both Iowa and New Hampshire, even though he really lost Iowa by the best count available?

If Bush won Florida in 2000 (he did), then Santorum won Iowa. Unfortunately, that 44 vote swing would have been worth a bit more to him 2 weeks ago than it is now.

Herman Cain is winning on Saturday!

In Iowa, no delegates are assigned because of the votes. National convention delegates are assigned during the Iowa Convention. The caucus votes have an effect on the assignments but are not binding.

It is a strange system

Then add to this the fact that the Iowa Republican Party now looks like a bunch of idiot back woods hicks for this mess. It is ridicules

And I contacted them and told them that their actions have made them, the Republican Party of Iowa and Iowa look stupid

And they do

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I wonder why the vote tally in 8 precincts will "never be certified"?

How come an 8-vote lead was a "win" for Romney, but a 34 vote lead for Santorum is a "tie"?

Don

And does this mean Romney is still the only guy to win both Iowa and New Hampshire, even though he really lost Iowa by the best count available?

If Bush won Florida in 2000 (he did), then Santorum won Iowa. Unfortunately, that 44 vote swing would have been worth a bit more to him 2 weeks ago than it is now.

Herman Cain is winning on Saturday!

In Iowa, no delegates are assigned because of the votes. National convention delegates are assigned during the Iowa Convention. The caucus votes have an effect on the assignments but are not binding.

It is a strange system

Then add to this the fact that the Iowa Republican Party now looks like a bunch of idiot back woods hicks for this mess. It is ridicules

And I contacted them and told them that their actions have made them, the Republican Party of Iowa and Iowa look stupid

And they do

Thanks for the info Marc. Appreciate it.

For my part, I think this situation really just shows that it is difficult to do a careful highly accurate job of even relatively straightforward things (like counting votes) under the pressure of artificially short timelines driven by the 24/7 news cycle. Generally, if there is a real difference between results for the various candidates, a small error factor won't change anything. In the present case, where the vote was so close, it did matter. We would all be a lot better off if we could cut people some slack and allow people reasonable time to do the job right. Unfortunately everything becomes a partisan issue used to bludgeon the opposition.

The failure of everyone except Romney and Paul to get on the Virginia ballot is a different matter, as everybody knew the rules and had as much time as they wanted to invest in meeting those requirements. When Gingrich (for example) fails to meet those requirements, despite being a Virginia resident (!), then goes to court (against his own party!) to complain that the rules aren't fair and to try to get them changed after the fact (!!!), it says a lot about his character. Rules are only good when they limit the other guy, but they're unfair when they get in my way! Wah wah wah. Narcissistic idiot.

Don

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The failure of everyone except Romney and Paul to get on the Virginia ballot is a different matter, as everybody knew the rules and had as much time as they wanted to invest in meeting those requirements.

It still shows a systemic flaw, and looks to be designed to prevent minor figures from being able to run for office. I don't think that serves the people of Virginia well. If it was just Newt and his crappy "volunteer" leading him to get tossed, that would be one thing, but only the guy with the deepest pockets and the guy with the most dedicated followers managed to get it all right.