skydiver604 0 #1 January 13, 2012 This will be interesting, I can't see this being good for anyone Not sure if this should be in SC or here. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/01/12/street-gangs-targeting-hells-angels-police-chief LONDON, ONT. - Street gangs with outside muscle, targeting the Hells Angels, have sparked the outburst of violence that's left five adult businesses in flames and two people shot, police said Wednesday. Late Wednesday, three of the men police arrested — two from London, one from Brampton, Ont. — appeared in court via video to answer charges related to the shooting. All three men are black, giving credence to the police theory that biker gangs — which don't usually allow black members — aren't responsible for the recent violence. Whoever is responsible for the fires and shootings, they'll have to answer for it, Chief Brad Duncan vowed at a news conference. "You are priority No. 1," Duncan said. "We will not tolerate this open display of violence. This shooting has taken place in a residential area, in close proximity to a public school, and notwithstanding the time of day that it occurred, it has put our citizens at grave risk." Police held the news conference partly to quell rumours the violence is a result of a battle between the Hells Angels and their traditional rivals, the Outlaws, another biker gang. But street gangs "can be every bit as dangerous as the more traditional outlaw motorcycle clubs," Duncan said. "They are associated with the drug trade. Guns and firearms are involved. They are every bit as organized." Street gangs have no fear of the Hells Angels or any outlaw motorcycle club, biker analyst and author Yves Lavigne told QMI Agency. In London, the street gangs have taken over the drug-trafficking market because traditional biker clubs lost their power, Lavigne said. In December, the revived Hells Angels chapter in London began leaning on the street gang members to start working for them, he said. "What you've seen the past five days is the street gangs telling the Hells Angels, 'Screw you.'” Organized crime analyst and author James Dubro said the news that a street gang, not the Outlaws, is targeting the Hells Angels could spell even more trouble in London. "In the end, it leads to more violence and more chaos in the underworld," he said. "Hells Angels has it all. You couldn't possibly take them on." Two sources with knowledge of London's criminal world said they're expecting the London Hells Angels will bring in supporters from out of town to deal with the matter. The violence began Saturday morning, when a tattoo parlour owned by a member of the Outlaws was set ablaze. That was followed by fires at a strip club owned by a Hells Angels leader, and two massage parlours, Sunday morning. The sequence of fires suggested the Outlaws and Hells Angels were in the early stages of a war. The violence escalated Wednesday morning, just after midnight, when a man and a woman were shot outside a suspected Hells Angels clubhouse The woman was treated for gunshot wounds and released from hospital. The man remains in hospital in serious condition. Police said the man is a known member of the Hells Angels who has had “ongoing issues with street gangs.” "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #2 January 13, 2012 Once again outlawing drugs and prostitution gives career criminals a lucrative market place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #3 January 13, 2012 Quote Once again outlawing drugs and prostitution gives career criminals a lucrative market place. legalize hookers & blow scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #4 January 13, 2012 I bet they wouldn't mess with Chuck Norris.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 January 13, 2012 QuoteNothing new. FIFY"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 January 13, 2012 Quote Once again outlawing drugs and prostitution gives career criminals a lucrative market place. And the UK ban on guns ensures that the gangs/bikers don't need to worry about being harmed by law-abiding citizens."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #8 January 13, 2012 wrong London,,,,this is in London, Ontario In Canada "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #9 January 13, 2012 Gangs are becoming a 'real', growing threat in this country as well as Canada. Not just to the Hell's Angels. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 January 13, 2012 QuoteGangs are becoming a 'real', growing threat in this country as well as Canada. Not just to the Hell's Angels. Chuck The motorcycle gangs have always (since the 70s) been a real criminal problem in Eastern Canada (and elsewhere, but this is about that area).Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #11 January 13, 2012 QuoteGangs are becoming a 'real', growing threat in this country as well as Canada. Not just to the Hell's Angels. I live in central Tucson, a not-too-good-but-not-too-bad part of town. I've been watching the amount of gang-related tagging going on in my area, and it seems like every day I drive home from work (a cross-town drive for me) I see new tags. I haven't seen shootings, haven't seen roving gangs of marauders, and haven't been the target of theft or vandalism. But I'm definitely seeing a massive increase in the gangs' spraypaint calling cards. I'm glad I'm moving way out into suburbia at the end of this month. It's going to suck being 20 minutes away from the nearest gallon of milk, but it'll be good to know I'm moving to a better neighborhood. ALTHOUGH, there's a gang to deal with there as well, they just call it an HOA! Elvisio "I need approval for WHAT?" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 January 13, 2012 Quote All three men are black, giving credence to the police theory that biker gangs — which don't usually allow black members — aren't responsible for the recent violence. There are black motorcycle gangs out there in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 January 13, 2012 True, thoug the two mentioned in teh article are decidedly not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
