An interesting take on gun control

[billvon 3,120]

>I think it's interesting that some of the opinions here assume whatever
>divides the country will not divide the military as well.

Actually I think that's quite likely; that's what happened during our first civil war.

[kelpdiver 2]

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After all, they take their top-level orders from the Commander-in-Chief...one person. None of them are going to tell the CIC that they are not going to follow his orders.

They don't have to even say - they can just exercise some planned incompetence and take the wrong street. Or make an obvious entrance so the resistance knows to leave the area. Or flat out tell the resistance where the unit is going.

[davjohns 1]

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>I think it's interesting that some of the opinions here assume whatever
>divides the country will not divide the military as well.

Actually I think that's quite likely; that's what happened during our first civil war.

Awkward wording, but I think you are agreeing with me. Whatever divides the people, will likely divide the people; in uniform and out. In the Civil War, it was not just brother against brother. Military commanders from each other knew each other intimately. Many of them trained at West Point together. They had children named after each other. It was not uncommon for them to meet under white flags and go over old times the night before they attempted to kill each other. An incredibly sad period of history. But entirely repeatable.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[JohnRich 4]

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Whatever divides the people, will likely divide the people; in uniform and out.

By coincidence to this thread, I recently finished reading the fictional book "Hong Kong" by Stephen Coontz (best known for "Flight of the Intruder"). It's about civilian rebels taking over control of Hong Kong from the Chinese government, and it covers many of the things that are being said here. Some military members refused to go along with the orders to bomb civilians, and went so far as to shoot down those who were on their way to do so. Same with the Navy, and the Army. In such circumstances the Armed Forces will be beset by problems from both without, and within.

[matthewcline 0]

I just don't see your politically appointed Military Leaders saying "No Sir". Maybe they will argue till blue in the face, maybe they will have communications break downs and get lost in route. I think they will HOPE for public outcry and the Orders being reversed, rather than refuse to obey them. The ones who lay down their arms or take them up in defense of the group the GOV wants eliminated, will be lower ranked, and they will be prosecuted.

Matt

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[aarco 0]

It will not be repeatable - I will not let that happen and no one I work with will let that happen- This country is going into space - and we can look for the enemy out there - while the rest of us look inside our own heads to clear up the other things this same GOV will also be forced to do as well. Weapons and training is smart - self deffence is not an option- its an order - GIA

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[popsjumper 2]

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In the Civil War, it was not just brother against brother. Military commanders from each other knew each other intimately. Many of them trained at West Point together. They had children named after each other. It was not uncommon for them to meet under white flags and go over old times the night before they attempted to kill each other. An incredibly sad period of history. But entirely repeatable.

Repeatable? Why, anything is possible, yes.
Likely? I think it's highly unlikely that anything like that would be happening today.

It's a totally different world and mental make-up today. Besides, the civil war was state militias organizing too, not just civilian as would be the case today. I don't see any state-sponsored militias supporting a civilian uprising these days....regardless of the "cause".

If, in the highly, and I mean highly , unlikely event that a civilian up rising against the goobermint happens, it's going to be civilians and civilian militia groups against goobermint military...including federal, state and local LEOs.


...and if you think Sherman was a terror.....

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