grimmie 186 #1 December 27, 2011 I have been cracking up lately at political posts on the internet. One of the greatest inventions was a "comments" section under articles on the web. Like or dislike Obama, there are some pretty off base and far out comments people like to regurgitate about him. Muslim, Socialist, Anti Christ, etc. I started thinking about Reagan, and what the attack machine would look like against him. Reagan couldn't speak without a teleprompter, the Pope was worried he was the Anti Christ, he and his wife belived in the occult and fortune telling, he negotiated with terrorists, he tripled the defecit, he put every traveler at a high risk by firing the PATCO controllers, he slashed funding and put homeless mental patients out into society, he funded an ilegal war in Central America, torturing and killing thousands, he wasted billions on a defense system out of the movies that never could work, he raised the debt limit many times, could you imagine if Obama did all of these things that the GOP worships Oh yeah, and could you imagine if Biden became president next and pardoned all of the illegal operators of the administration! GOP'ers heads would explode. Ronald Reagan, the POTUS that brought you Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and the Bush family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 December 27, 2011 Speaking of 'off base and far out comments', seems like you got all the lefty talking points about Reagan covered.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #3 December 27, 2011 dispute one thing I mentioned with a fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 December 27, 2011 Quote dispute one thing I mentioned with a fact. Facts to counter the fallacies? Sure. Reagan could make speeches *without* the prompter - Obama had to have one at a friggin' *elementary school*, ffs. Nancy was the one obsessed with fortunetellers, not Ronnie. A Democratic Congress controlled the purse strings (hence deficit) and debt limit increases.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 December 27, 2011 >Reagan could make speeches *without* the prompter . . . Yes, he could - but he couldn't do it without cue cards. He couldn't even get through meetings without cue cards. >Nancy was the one obsessed with fortunetellers, not Ronnie. And Ronnie signed the law legitimizing fortunetellers in California, not Nancy. It doesn't matter much. As Rich alluded to, Reagan would not have a chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination today. Not enough of an extremist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 December 27, 2011 Quote A Democratic Congress controlled the purse strings (hence deficit) and debt limit increases. you meant to say a Democratic House. The Senate was GOP controlled the first 6 years of his tenure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 December 27, 2011 QuoteQuote A Democratic Congress controlled the purse strings (hence deficit) and debt limit increases. you meant to say a Democratic House. The Senate was GOP controlled the first 6 years of his tenure. Yes, thank you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 December 27, 2011 QuoteI started thinking about Reagan, and what the attack machine would look like against him. Reagan couldn't speak without a teleprompter, the Pope was worried he was the Anti Christ, he and his wife belived in the occult and fortune telling, he negotiated with terrorists, he tripled the defecit, he put every traveler at a high risk by firing the PATCO controllers, he slashed funding and put homeless mental patients out into society, he funded an ilegal war in Central America, torturing and killing thousands, he wasted billions on a defense system out of the movies that never could work, he raised the debt limit many times It's an interesting way of doing things. "If I were the attack machine, I'd say the following." It's like Jeff Dunham isn't a racist, those puppets are! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 December 28, 2011 Let's also not forget Reagan was a Union Boss and gave up names during the HUAC hearings.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #10 December 28, 2011 More "lefty" talking points Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 December 28, 2011 Quote>Reagan could make speeches *without* the prompter . . . Yes, he could - but he couldn't do it without cue cards. He couldn't even get through meetings without cue cards. Cue card != entire speech scrolling in front of you. Quote>Nancy was the one obsessed with fortunetellers, not Ronnie. And Ronnie signed the law legitimizing fortunetellers in California, not Nancy. Non sequitur to the accusation. QuoteIt doesn't matter much. As Rich alluded to, Reagan would not have a chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination today. Not enough of an extremist. In y'all's opinion...doesn't make it truth except in Dem talking points.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 December 28, 2011 The fact of the matter is, Reagan made his living as a professional spokesman far more than a professional actor. Pay him enough and he'd say virtually anything written on the page including cigarettes were good for you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #13 December 28, 2011 QuoteThe fact of the matter is, Reagan made his living as a professional spokesman far more than a professional actor. Pay him enough and he'd say virtually anything written on the page including cigarettes were good for you. Isn't that the nature of ALL Politicians and Actors? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 December 28, 2011 QuoteIsn't that the nature of ALL Politicians and Actors? Not really. Some of both actually have a moral compass that doesn't just point to where the money is.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #15 December 28, 2011 In the grand scheme of things that number may be so small as hard to measure. Just look at the various parties "Leaders" in the US, the top of each party chase the money. Our "top" actors do so as well. The exceptions would be hard to find, but a small group to feed when you gathered them all up. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #16 December 28, 2011 Of course those commercials were made before the Surgeon General proclaiming that cigarettes caused cancer. That compared to a President who is either too stupid or weak-minded to KNOW that cigarettes are bad for you in spite of all the evidence we have now and have had for many years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #17 December 28, 2011 >That compared to a President who is either too stupid or weak-minded . . . ODS - it's a terrible thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 December 28, 2011 The subject at hand here is Reagan. The man was nowhere near as great as his myth and by today's "Republican" standards would be a "Republican In Name Only." Oh how the inmates are running the asylum when even Reagan isn't considered conservative enough.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #19 December 28, 2011 What if Obama sent a guy to Iraq to sell them WMD's, or took credit for Russia collapsing, or was running an illegal war in Nicaragua. What if Obama declared Afghanistan Freedom Fighter Day, or turned a blind eye and joked about a new deadly disease? More Dem talking points Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #20 December 28, 2011 He should have been impeached over Iran-Contra. The staunchest of supporters can't argue that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 December 28, 2011 QuoteWhat if Obama sent a guy to Iraq to sell them WMD's The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war|over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program.[29] The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development.[30] So, a request for medical research material is now knowingly 'sell them WMDs'? Yup, sure sounds like another Dem talking point. Quoteillegal war in Nicaragua As opposed to an illegal war in Libya?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 December 28, 2011 Quote>That compared to a President who is either too stupid or weak-minded . . . ODS - it's a terrible thing. You need a new schtick. This one's so worn out it has holes in the sole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 December 28, 2011 >This one's so worn out it has holes in the sole. I imagine you see your Obama hatred as fresh and witty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 December 28, 2011 Quote>This one's so worn out it has holes in the sole. I imagine you see your Obama hatred as fresh and witty. In comparison to over a decade of Bush hatred, it is.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #25 December 28, 2011 QuoteThe subject at hand here is Reagan. The man was nowhere near as great as his myth and by today's "Republican" standards would be a "Republican In Name Only." Oh how the inmates are running the asylum when even Reagan isn't considered conservative enough. Reagan wasn't that Conservative. Only someone with far left views would think he was. Your attempt a smearing him was lame. Those cigarette ads were made before the Surgeon General's Report on Cigarettes. I don't ever recall Reagan smoking. If you think Republicans today are to the right of Reagan, consider how much to the left the Democrats are to Kennedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
