winsor 236 #26 December 27, 2011 Gingrich makes Nixon look like an honest, trustworthy, and all around decent guy by comparison. That is an impressive feat in and of itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #27 December 27, 2011 I'm not so sure I'd go that far. We're talking Gay Mafia Sex, here!!! http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/books/us-president-richard-nixon-in-gay-mafia-sex-scandal-says-veteran-journalist-don-fulsom/story-fn9412vp-1226231149789 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 December 27, 2011 Quote >Did you hear Nixon was gay? Yowza! Now get 20 more smears and you'll come close to matching the GOP smear campaign against Obama. And still be way, *WAY* behind the Dem smear campaign against the Rep candidates.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #29 December 27, 2011 Quote Noone gives a fuck about Newt's divorces/wives. People who say they do weren't going to vote for him anyway. Edited to add: in this respect it's just like Bill Clinton's BJ. People who acted all shocked&appalled were already against Clinton anyway. Speed is right...... Wives and divorces don't account for dung. Secondary diversions. Politics is about power. Who can get it for us; how do we fit in and at what level; how do we keep it. The inner sanctums of both parties are indistinguishable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #30 December 27, 2011 I think he's done, as well. Not because of the wife-dumping thing but because even staunch conservatives are starting to beg for competent candidates. From Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard comes an open letter to republican primary voters: ============== And it is a moment, as you prepare to cast your vote, for others to reflect on whether they don’t owe it to their country to step forward. As this is no time for voters to choose fecklessly, it is no time for leaders to duck responsibility . . . Now is not a time for leaders to engage in clever calculations of the odds of success, or to succumb to concerns about how they will look if they enter the fray and fall short. Now is a time to come to the aid of our country. ============== Translation - "For the love of God, please give us a competent candidate to vote for!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,123 #31 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote >Did you hear Nixon was gay? Yowza! Now get 20 more smears and you'll come close to matching the GOP smear campaign against Obama. And still be way, *WAY* behind the Dem smear campaign against the Rep candidates. Very droll. The GOP candidates are smearing each other so well there's no need for the Dems to waste their energy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #32 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >Did you hear Nixon was gay? Yowza! Now get 20 more smears and you'll come close to matching the GOP smear campaign against Obama. And still be way, *WAY* behind the Dem smear campaign against the Rep candidates. Very droll. The GOP candidates are smearing each other so well there's no need for the Dems to waste their energy. I don't see a whole lot of smearing by the GOP candidates. They seem to be almost (not completely) civil towards each other. But they sure seem to be good at shooting themselves in the foot (figuatively speaking, of course). Bachmann, Perry and Cain were all done in by their own issues, not attacks by the other GOP candidates (or even by the Dems)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 December 27, 2011 If you think the dirt-digging on Cain was not done by Gingrich and Romney supporters (and/or operatives), you're naive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 December 27, 2011 Quote If you think the dirt-digging on Cain was not done by Gingrich and Romney supporters (and/or operatives), you're naive. As I recall, the story broke (and broke, and broke, and broke) on Politico, which has correspondents working with/at MSNBC.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #35 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote If you think the dirt-digging on Cain was not done by Gingrich and Romney supporters (and/or operatives), you're naive. As I recall, the story broke (and broke, and broke, and broke) on Politico, which has correspondents working with/at MSNBC. All reporters have sources; usually confidential sources with an ax to grind. Politics, especially election politics, is all about getting ahead by fucking the other guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #36 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote If you think the dirt-digging on Cain was not done by Gingrich and Romney supporters (and/or operatives), you're naive. As I recall, the story broke (and broke, and broke, and broke) on Politico, which has correspondents working with/at MSNBC. All reporters have sources; usually confidential sources with an ax to grind. Politics, especially election politics, is all about getting ahead by fucking the other guy. And why would the Democrats want to derail the Cain bid? He was pure gold to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #37 December 27, 2011 >And why would the Democrats want to derail the Cain bid? He was pure gold to them. Agreed. Remember Rush Limbaugh's support of Hilary Clinton? It wasn't because he supported her - it's because he thought McCain could beat her. A Cain nomination would be a democrat's wet dream. He's unloseable to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 December 27, 2011 Quote >And why would the Democrats want to derail the Cain bid? He was pure gold to them. Agreed. Remember Rush Limbaugh's support of Hilary Clinton? It wasn't because he supported her - it's because he thought McCain could beat her. A Cain nomination would be a democrat's wet dream. He's unloseable to. And Romney would be even better - even if Obama loses to him, they've got basically no change for the new Adminstration.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #39 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >Did you hear Nixon was gay? Yowza! Now get 20 more smears and you'll come close to matching the GOP smear campaign against Obama. And still be way, *WAY* behind the Dem smear campaign against the Rep candidates. Very droll. The GOP candidates are smearing each other so well there's no need for the Dems to waste their energy. Yes ...and in the general election campaign Obama and the Dems will not even have to spend money directly engaging in the smear wars. They will only point out what Repub primary candidates have dredged up about his GOP opponent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #40 December 27, 2011 >And Romney would be even better - even if Obama loses to him, they've got basically >no change for the new Adminstration. Oh, I think there would be a lot of changes. If there's one thing Romney's good at, it's changing his mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #41 December 27, 2011 Quote And Romney would be even better - even if Obama loses to him, they've got basically no change for the new Adminstration. a 60% chance of "basically no change" doesn't beat out 100% chance of reelection. Romney happens because the GOP can't find a guy with a pulse, not because the Democrats are working hard to make it happen. Make no mistake, this is a self inflicted experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #42 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote And Romney would be even better - even if Obama loses to him, they've got basically no change for the new Adminstration. a 60% chance of "basically no change" doesn't beat out 100% chance of reelection. Romney happens because the GOP can't find a guy with a pulse, not because the Democrats are working hard to make it happen. Make no mistake, this is a self inflicted experience. Oh, they're (the media) definitely pushing Romney - but I don't dispute that the field is busy putting knives in each other's backs, either.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 December 27, 2011 Quote Right now they're down to a Libertarian running as a Republican And it's about time. Too bad the Dems can't field one of like mind. Quote and a Democrat running as a Republican So what, that pretty much status quo for decades with tax and borrow and spend philosophies of the two parties we're restricted to ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #44 December 27, 2011 Quote So what, that pretty much status quo for decades with tax and borrow and spend philosophies of the two parties we're restricted to Be nice to have someone to vote *for* instead of *against*, wouldn't it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,123 #45 December 27, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote >Did you hear Nixon was gay? Yowza! Now get 20 more smears and you'll come close to matching the GOP smear campaign against Obama. And still be way, *WAY* behind the Dem smear campaign against the Rep candidates. Very droll. The GOP candidates are smearing each other so well there's no need for the Dems to waste their energy. I don't see a whole lot of smearing by the GOP candidates. They seem to be almost (not completely) civil towards each other. Been asleep?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #46 December 28, 2011 Quote If you think the dirt-digging on Cain was not done by Gingrich and Romney supporters (and/or operatives), you're naive. No, I understand that the story was probably fed to the media by the opponents. But for Cain to think the sexual harassment suit wasn't going to come out was idiotic. And his response to it was worse. It wasn't the revelations that was the "shot in the foot" it was his responses."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #47 December 28, 2011 Quote But for Cain to think the sexual harassment suit wasn't going to come out was idiotic. Agreed. Much like John Edwards carrying-on with a girlfriend while under the microscope of a national campaign. What on Earth could he have been thinking?? The answer, of course, is that he wasn't thinking. And we know the cause, don't we? What Eve did to Adam; what Delilah did to Sampson; what Wallis Simpson did to Edward VIII. Women are evil and dangerous. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita... "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - J. Robert Oppenheimer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #48 December 28, 2011 Quote Quote But for Cain to think the sexual harassment suit wasn't going to come out was idiotic. Agreed. Much like John Edwards carrying-on with a girlfriend while under the microscope of a national campaign. What on Earth could he have been thinking?? The answer, of course, is that he wasn't thinking. And we know the cause, don't we? What Eve did to Adam; what Delilah did to Sampson; what Wallis Simpson did to Edward VIII. Women are evil and dangerous. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita... "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - J. Robert Oppenheimer "Women! ...You can't live with 'em ...pass the beer nuts." ~ Norm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
