rushmc 23 #26 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteLet us know how it goes for ya So anyways. With your superior logic, you can now explain what avenue is more expedient than cutting cost and raising revenues at the same time. Spending has no limits Wage earning has limits Very simple really The us has a spending problem that is driven by a government that is much much too large The spending needs to be cut to starve the beast That is the ONLY way it can be brought under control The correct way to increase revenue is to grow the economy It is a fact that increased regulation and taxation does not help the economy grow, it slows or stops it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 December 22, 2011 QuoteThe correct way to increase revenue is to grow the economy Hold on a second, you said above that decreasing spending and increasing revenues is not the right way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteThey cold alter the life style and add a second job (Adding revenue) and live within means. really the most effective way to do it. when I read this, I think about the proposals to invade other countries and then make them pay us for their freedom. That's a second job. The first job is taxing the people and they're already doing that pretty well. We could go back to the Clinton era tax rates and make a little bit over overtime, but it's well short of the need right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteThe correct way to increase revenue is to grow the economy Hold on a second, you said above that decreasing spending and increasing revenues is not the right way. Revenues can grow But taxation is not the right way to do it The private sector can grow us out of this mess IF, the gov is made smaller and has less regulation on it (the private sector) When the private sector grows revenue increases When I hear those like you say "increase revenue" I think you want to increase taxes Was I incorrect in this assumption?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnother selective spelling Nazi Do you belong to a guild or association to make it official? Yup, it is called a high school diploma. Pretty sure you can even get one as an adult. QuoteNice PAMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #31 December 22, 2011 QuoteRevenues can grow Oh, so I was correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteRevenues can grow Oh, so I was correct. So, was MY assumption correct or not?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnother selective spelling Nazi Do you belong to a guild or association to make it official? Yup, it is called a high school diploma. Pretty sure you can even get one as an adult. QuoteNice PA He is on a roll"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 December 22, 2011 QuoteSo, was MY assumption correct or not? Your assumption was way off base. My comment was that cutting spending and increasing revenue was most efficient. You then made an assumption on what tactics I would use to attain that goal. Based on your assumptions regarding the tactics, you disagreed with the goal. The first step would be (now) agreeing that the goal is correct. Then we can have a discussion about the tactics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo, was MY assumption correct or not? Your assumption was way off base. My comment was that cutting spending and increasing revenue was most efficient. You then made an assumption on what tactics I would use to attain that goal. Based on your assumptions regarding the tactics, you disagreed with the goal. The first step would be (now) agreeing that the goal is correct. Then we can have a discussion about the tactics. Then let me be more specific in my query What would your proposal be to increase revenues?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #36 December 22, 2011 QuoteWhat would your proposal be to increase revenues? Why do you care? You started this conversation saying it was wrong to increase revenues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat would your proposal be to increase revenues? Why do you care? You started this conversation saying it was wrong to increase revenues. No You have separated the topic Revenues and cuts are the solution You somehow feel the need to discuss revenue and cuts as separate to yet again cya However The key is NOT raising taxes But since you do not want to answer the question honestly I am going to conclude my assumption was correct and your plan of attack to the problem is fatally flawed"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 December 22, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat would your proposal be to increase revenues? Why do you care? You started this conversation saying it was wrong to increase revenues. And if your solution to revenue growth is not tax increases you need only tell me I will tell you I was wrong and I agree with you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #39 December 22, 2011 Both of you - enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 December 23, 2011 Quote[They cold alter the life style and add a second job (Adding revenue) and live within means. Matt Unfortunately, it's YOU, the gotta-pay-more-now taxpayer who would be looking for that second job.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #41 December 24, 2011 I already have two! MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
