Occupy Economic Terrorism - The entitlement generation move to disrupt ports

[DougH 270]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/12/us/occupy-ports/

More screwing of the working man on behalf of the spoiled entitlement occupiers.

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Port of San Diego board chairman Scott Peters issued an open letter to the community on Sunday asking that protesters not disrupt work.

"The Port of San Diego is made up of working people with families who serve the public each day by helping to bring in goods that are important to the people of the San Diego region," Peters wrote.

"They are the 99 percent, the gardeners, the maintenance workers, the dock workers, the Harbor Police officers, the office workers, the environmental workers -- all working to improve the quality of life in San Diego Bay and on its surrounding lands," he said. "It is these people who would be hurt by a blockade of our Port."

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
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[normiss 897]

Maybe it's time for the National Guard.
I say arrest them all.
Plenty of laws broken to arrest. Lawsuit them to non-existence too please.
If I owned a shipyard and you trespassed, put my workers, yourselves, and my equipment at risk, interfered with my business to the tune of a few million dollars....I'd like to see you in jail.

These people are fucking morons.

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/12/us/occupy-ports/

More screwing of the working man on behalf of the spoiled entitlement occupiers.

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Port of San Diego board chairman Scott Peters issued an open letter to the community on Sunday asking that protesters not disrupt work.

"The Port of San Diego is made up of working people with families who serve the public each day by helping to bring in goods that are important to the people of the San Diego region," Peters wrote.

"They are the 99 percent, the gardeners, the maintenance workers, the dock workers, the Harbor Police officers, the office workers, the environmental workers -- all working to improve the quality of life in San Diego Bay and on its surrounding lands," he said. "It is these people who would be hurt by a blockade of our Port."

Its funny how any of us could be against Occupy Wall Street

There are serious talks about raising retirement age, making medicare private (making them more expensive in other words)and cutting benefits ... yet permanent tax cuts to the higher echelon that would nullify these cuts and/or put the Government more in debt.

...and for some reason, you want to stop the people who are protesting against it.


Look at the 0.1 percent (not the 1 percent, but the 0.1 percent)'s income increase in the last few decade and compare it to everyone else.

"They want you to say 'thank you' while you wipe your chin and walk away"

[Rick 67]

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/12/us/occupy-ports/

More screwing of the working man on behalf of the spoiled entitlement occupiers.

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Port of San Diego board chairman Scott Peters issued an open letter to the community on Sunday asking that protesters not disrupt work.

"The Port of San Diego is made up of working people with families who serve the public each day by helping to bring in goods that are important to the people of the San Diego region," Peters wrote.

"They are the 99 percent, the gardeners, the maintenance workers, the dock workers, the Harbor Police officers, the office workers, the environmental workers -- all working to improve the quality of life in San Diego Bay and on its surrounding lands," he said. "It is these people who would be hurt by a blockade of our Port."

Its funny how any of us could be against Occupy Wall Street

There are serious talks about raising retirement age, making medicare private (making them more expensive in other words)and cutting benefits ... yet permanent tax cuts to the higher echelon that would nullify these cuts and/or put the Government more in debt.

...and for some reason, you want to stop the people who are protesting against it.


Look at the 0.1 percent (not the 1 percent, but the 0.1 percent)'s income increase in the last few decade and compare it to everyone else.

"They want you to say 'thank you' while you wipe your chin and walk away"

And how is shutting down the ports going to change this??

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[DougH 270]

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Its funny how any of us could be against Occupy Wall Street

There are serious talks about raising retirement age, making medicare private (making them more expensive in other words)and cutting benefits ... yet permanent tax cuts to the higher echelon that would nullify these cuts and/or put the Government more in debt.

...and for some reason, you want to stop the people who are protesting against it.


Look at the 0.1 percent (not the 1 percent, but the 0.1 percent)'s income increase in the last few decade and compare it to everyone else.

"They want you to say 'thank you' while you wipe your chin and walk away"

Why is it funny?

They offer no solution, and they go against what I think are solid america ideals.

The majority of the protestors are idiots, with no actual thoughts behind them. They make for great sound bites but they are a hollow bunch when you actually try to ask them about their position.

They aren't for fixing this country, they are all about tearing it down.

They are vilifying a group of people because it is easy to do so, but it doesn't fix a single thing.

And finally I still believe we have a system in this country where you can better yourself through hard work and smart choices.

My father grew up in a poor neighborhood in NYC. His father was a gambler and worked three jobs to keep his knees intack. My father started in the mail room on wallstreet and worked his way up to upper management. He has worked a hard honest day every day of his life.

He had plenty of mobility in his life. No one gave him anything in his life, he worked for it.

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
=P

[normiss 897]

It appears to me this is one of the effects of "everyone gets a trophy".

Entitlement mindset vs. getting off your whining ass and working towards your goals.

They piss me off.

If they were to succeed and and we all had to suddenly give half of everything to the lazy fuckers ... you can count on ALL of us working less, caring less, contributing less. This sounds like a good plan?

Like I said. Fucking morons.

[quade 4]

http://www.latimes.com/la-me-port-protest-20111212,0,3444392.story?track=latiphoneapp

It doesn't seem to be the entire port, which would be impossible due to its size, but rather targeted at a specific business that has a history of labor abuse.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Gravitymaster 0]

I suspect they aren't going to find some of the dockworkers and Longshoremen too sympathetic to their cause. Especially, if it costs them a days pay.

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And how is shutting down the ports going to change this??

Exposure. Media exposure.
It is all about shifting the national conversation from the ineffective austerity talks (expansionary fiscal austerity has a very Orwellian sound to it).

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And finally I still believe we have a system in this country where you can better yourself through hard work and smart choices.

My father grew up in a poor neighborhood in NYC. His father was a gambler and worked three jobs to keep his knees intack. My father started in the mail room on wallstreet and worked his way up to upper management. He has worked a hard honest day every day of his life.

He had plenty of mobility in his life. No one gave him anything in his life, he worked for it.

I definitely applaud your father's hard work mentality. People should work hard and should earn the money for it.

But that doesn't take away that there are issues that need fixing. Unless there are people in the street to fight for it, then the system remains the same.

"According to that report, between 1979 and 2005 the inflation-adjusted, after-tax income of Americans in the middle of the income distribution rose 21 percent. The equivalent number for the richest 0.1 percent rose 400 percent. "

For who are the 0.1 percent? most of them are corporate bigwigs and financial wheeler-dealers. One recent analysis found that 43 percent of the super-elite are executives at nonfinancial companies, 18 percent are in finance and another 12 percent are lawyers or in real estate. And these are not, to put it mildly, professions in which there is a clear relationship between someone’s income and his economic contribution.

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It appears to me this is one of the effects of "everyone gets a trophy".

Entitlement mindset vs. getting off your whining ass and working towards your goals.

They piss me off.

If they were to succeed and and we all had to suddenly give half of everything to the lazy fuckers ... you can count on ALL of us working less, caring less, contributing less. This sounds like a good plan?

Like I said. Fucking morons.

This is the misconception that is brought up everytime.

This isin't about you giving "half of everything" to the protestors.

This is about you giving "half of everything" to the higher echelon (most notably the 0.1 percent). Are you seriously happy giving part of your wealth to people who are richer?

If we take Romney's plan for example, YOU will be paying for the tax cuts for the rich by cutting off YOUR future benfits. You are the ones that are supposedly take the burden of the sacrifice.

Another example: Privatizing the Veterans Health Administration (V.H.A.). It is a direct cost increase for everyone under the V.H.A.

[normiss 897]

So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

[Andy9o8 2]

Dateline, Boston, Massachusetts Colony, 1773 (AP). The Royal Manager manager of the Port of Boston asked a developing group known as "Tea Partiers" not to disrupt port operations. "Damned entitlement generation colonials," he was overheard to grumble.

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

nope - that's his best...

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[normiss 897]

I'm very sorry for the mindset that would view the truth as any less intelligent.

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

You can always try to dispute my claims with concrete numbers and statistics.

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

You can always try to dispute my claims with concrete numbers and statistics.

You first.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I'm very sorry for the mindset that would view the truth as any less intelligent.

haha.
Look, here's the thing:
My personal guess is that you worked really hard all your life and you're very proud of it. When you were at age X and Y, you probably had an insurmountable obstacle which you prevailed in the end. Nobody helped you.

Now you're looking at the young protestors and say to yourself "when I was at that age, nobody helped me. They should learn to help themselves".

And I understand that 100%. Its an admirable trait and I definitely do hope more people are like that.


What I'm arguing however is about ways to improve the current system (which is overall great, but imperfect).

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

You can always try to dispute my claims with concrete numbers and statistics.

"For who are the 0.1 percent? most of them are corporate bigwigs and financial wheeler-dealers. One recent analysis found that 43 percent of the super-elite are executives at nonfinancial companies, 18 percent are in finance and another 12 percent are lawyers or in real estate. And these are not, to put it mildly, professions in which there is a clear relationship between someone’s income and his economic contribution. "

Kind of makes the whole attack on Wall Street a misguided effort, if this statement from you is true.

But, I imagine they all pay taxes from income and from purchases they make with their massive wealth. That would be "Economic Contribution".

I was behind the "End Corruption" stance, but not the commit crimes actions of Occupy. I was a supporter till they decided to tell me in person (At Occupy Nashville's GA last week) they would not go after the Politicians as they are going after the CEO's.

Occupy and its Actions are losing supporters, rapidly.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

You can always try to dispute my claims with concrete numbers and statistics.

You first.

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12316

The TPC analysis point out that if we raised the taxes on the riches (if the old brackets were still in place), the higher brackets will raise an additional 78 billion $, approximately half a GDP percentage.


In contrast, if we raise the Medicare eligibility age, something that would create a lot of hardship to the middle class... the CBO gives a whopping 42 billion $ a year.


So like I said, this is one of many examples where YOU will be subsiding for the rich.


...I find it truly odd that we skydivers (out of all people) want to cling on old misconceptions rather than challenging the facts. I remember a few whuffo friends saying "most skydivers die after a few years" and even with the facts, they still didn't want to see the truth.

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So you're just jealous that they are financially smarter than you are and are more successful.
Thanks for clarifying.

The least thing you can do is bring up a more intelligent reply than that.

Why do you think your "it's the 1%" argument required more?

You can always try to dispute my claims with concrete numbers and statistics.

You first.

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12316

The TPC analysis point out that if we raised the taxes on the riches (if the old brackets were still in place), the higher brackets will raise an additional 78 billion $, approximately half a GDP percentage.

Making the LARGE assumption that the rich will do nothing to reduce their tax bite, something NOT supported by fact.

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So like I said, this is one of many examples where YOU will be subsiding for the rich.

Given that the rich max out their SocSec contribution each year and will never see it, I submit that it is, in fact, the other way around.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[DougH 270]

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This is the misconception that is brought up everytime.

This isin't about you giving "half of everything" to the protestors.

This is about you giving "half of everything" to the higher echelon (most notably the 0.1 percent). Are you seriously happy giving part of your wealth to people who are richer?

If we take Romney's plan for example, YOU will be paying for the tax cuts for the rich by cutting off YOUR future benfits. You are the ones that are supposedly take the burden of the sacrifice.

Another example: Privatizing the Veterans Health Administration (V.H.A.). It is a direct cost increase for everyone under the V.H.A.

There are plenty of things that need work in this country, no argument from me.

If there was a logical plan for pushing this country towards greater equality, and greater productivity I would be all for it. Greater productivity and equality is a win win for all.

In my opinion all proposals on the table are about bringing down the 1%, and growing the size of government. Any benefit to the 99% is indirect at best.

The history of our countries past social engineering over the last few decades in this country doesn't really support our governments ability to elevate the prosperity of the lower educated and lower earning individuals.

Why do we spend so much on education with such poor results compared to other countries.

Why do we have families that have been on welfare for multi generations.

I would say the federal government has been doing just as much screwing of the 99% as the 1% has.

Further, I also think that the baby boomer generation has done a good job screwing all of the future generations in this country.

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
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[kelpdiver 2]

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And how is shutting down the ports going to change this??

Exposure. Media exposure.
It is all about shifting the national conversation from the ineffective austerity talks (expansionary fiscal austerity has a very Orwellian sound to it).

So in order to get media exposure, it's alright to take away today's earnings from truckers and dockworkers who were not asked to vote on the protest, just because a rabble of unemployed hippie scum (very minor stereotyping applied here) think it's their latest way to stay in the news? What a demonstration of sacrifice!

And that's the problem with these fuckers - they're perfectly willing to sacrifice others' pay, tax dollars, virtue (rapes), property rights...but what have they contributed? One good idea about shifting money away from the bigger banks, though even they couldn't follow that when it was inconvenient.

The unions around the port of Oakland strongly urged them to cancel today's event. There are thousands of people that will be hurt by it. None will benefit. Seems a bit dangerous to fuck with these unions...people get concrete shoes for that sort of offense.

Today I also read that one of the foreclosed homes in Oakland that is being occupied is in contract to a working class couple. Their reply was, 'our research didn't see this, but it's a bad home anyway, so the bank should find them another.'

Face it - Occupy has jumped the shark and needs to be put down until springtime. A significant portion of the rabble themselves recognize this. Without a plan or a clue, they're just wasting everyone's time and money.

[rushmc 23]

There are a couple of interesting funding complaints related to this group as well

Oh, and I dont agree with the much of the content of the links
I only post for the funding and organizational claims (which have been brought up before)

http://www.eurasiareview.com/05122011-us-justice-department-involved-in-new-corruption-scandal-says-watchdog-group-oped/

and this

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/vernon/111212

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln