shah269 0 #1 December 6, 2011 If Holland is Utopia for Liberals in such that it's well educated, very liberal both with respect to its social policy as well as it's immigration not to mention it is very progressive with respect to its view of the environment.... What is a country that exists today that idealizes the conservative view? My suggestions and this will offend a few... Iran! And here is why 1) NO Gays.... 2) The president talks to god...hell the nation entrusts in god in every single aspect of its existence. 3) No Socialized ANYTHING! Be it security or education. 4) Next to no regulations, other than religious. I know I ran is an exaggerated state but let's face it is a religious "democracy" and it is a hyper conservative with respect to many of it's views regarding life liberty and other issues. What are your thoughts?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #2 December 6, 2011 Quote What are your thoughts? Iran sucks.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #3 December 6, 2011 QuoteQuote What are your thoughts? Iran sucks. Shit I could have told you that! But it is what the US would be if we let Utah take over the US. Magic undies and all!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 December 6, 2011 QuoteShit I could have told you that! But it is what the US would be if we let Utah take over the US. Magic undies and all! I figured you'd be skinnier, what with all the exercise you get jumping to conclusions.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #5 December 6, 2011 QuoteIf Holland is Utopia for Liberals in such that it's well educated, very liberal both with respect to its social policy as well as it's immigration not to mention it is very progressive with respect to its view of the environment.... What is a country that exists today that idealizes the conservative view? My suggestions and this will offend a few... Iran! And here is why 1) NO Gays.... 2) The president talks to god...hell the nation entrusts in god in every single aspect of its existence. 3) No Socialized ANYTHING! Be it security or education. 4) Next to no regulations, other than religious. I know I ran is an exaggerated state but let's face it is a religious "democracy" and it is a hyper conservative with respect to many of it's views regarding life liberty and other issues. What are your thoughts? I view Iran in a manner akin to Cuba. I get along just fine with Persian or Cuban colleagues and associates, but I do not have much use for either the Cuban or Iranian government. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #6 December 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteShit I could have told you that! But it is what the US would be if we let Utah take over the US. Magic undies and all! I figured you'd be skinnier, what with all the exercise you get jumping to conclusions. Thoughts? Is a religious conservative "save your own ass" country such as Iran a conservative dream if they weren't big on terrorist actions?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 December 6, 2011 Confusing "religious conservative" with "conservative" is pretty simplistic. Much like treating every single person that 'claims' to be liberal like an insane veggie, weirdo that straps themselves to trees and bombs clinics and snipers doctors. Or like someone saying Billvon and Dreamdancer (or Wendy and Amazon) are the same. But confusing "fanatically religious conservative" with "conservative" is just trolling. Clearly your recent posting history is just to try to 'out-PC' the others in attempts to ingratiate yourself to less educated "self proclaimed liberal" female skydivers/posters - (let me know how it works - it's appears pretty effective for some at climbing gyms and clubs ) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 December 6, 2011 Like most Liberals I have met, you have a very warped view of Conservatives which renders you incapable of conducting an intelligent conversation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #9 December 6, 2011 QuoteConfusing "religious conservative" with "conservative" is pretty simplistic. Much like treating every single person that 'claims' to be liberal like an insane veggie, weirdo that straps themselves to trees and bombs clinics and snipers doctors. Or like someone saying Billvon and Dreamdancer (or Wendy and Amazon) are the same. . True, very true. But on average I would say MOST liberals think Holland is a nice place. My question is what country do most conservatives think is a nice place. Other than the US.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 December 6, 2011 Actually, claiming that Holland is nice, is a lot like saying Iowa is nice (in terms of size and organization and population). Pretty much, then an endorsement for State's rights in the US - dont you think? If we kept to the original intent of the 'Union' and took away all that excess Federal authority that should never have left the States - we would be having this discussion about individual states, rather than smallish countries. Which would be as it should be. 50 different philosophies in the great experiment would have given just about everybody a place they'd fit in. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 December 6, 2011 QuoteBut on average I would say MOST liberals think Holland is a nice place. I'd bet a lot of everyday people would feel the same about Holland. But why is that based on the political structure and not just on the people and culture and individuals that live there? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #12 December 6, 2011 >Like most Liberals I have met, you have a very warped view of Conservatives >which renders you incapable of conducting an intelligent conversation. Now that's the funniest post of the day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #13 December 6, 2011 Quote >Like most Liberals I have met, you have a very warped view of Conservatives >which renders you incapable of conducting an intelligent conversation. Now that's the funniest post of the day. As intended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #14 December 6, 2011 Guys I just want your thougths.... Hell I could have said Canada is very Liberal Friendly. What country do you feel other than the US is Conservative friendly? I'm not belittling anyone just wish to hear what you think.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #15 December 6, 2011 QuoteGuys I just want your thougths.... Hell I could have said Canada is very Liberal Friendly. What country do you feel other than the US is Conservative friendly? I'm not belittling anyone just wish to hear what you think. Frankly, this isn't something I even think about. I'm very happy living in a diverse country like the U.S. I'm pretty sure most U.S. Liberals feel the same way. That's why your question is so dumb. It seeks to categorize people and assumes that because people share some of the same philosophies that they must all think the same way. Would it surprise you to find out there are gay Conservatives or Conservatives who are Atheists? Would it surprise you to learn there are many Liberals who believe in God, don't use drugs and oppose gay marriage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #16 December 6, 2011 Quote Quote >Like most Liberals I have met, you have a very warped view of Conservatives >which renders you incapable of conducting an intelligent conversation. Now that's the funniest post of the day. As intended. I don't think he is laughing with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 December 6, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >Like most Liberals I have met, you have a very warped view of Conservatives >which renders you incapable of conducting an intelligent conversation. Now that's the funniest post of the day. As intended. I don't think he is laughing with you. Then it means he didn't get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #18 December 6, 2011 OK OK OK Let's just say "Average" Where does the AVERAGE conservative feel that things are done "right"Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 December 6, 2011 QuoteOK OK OK Let's just say "Average" Where does the AVERAGE conservative feel that things are done "right" There you go again. Define average. I suspect in your mind, you tend to pigeonhole people and assume that anyone who call leans conservative of liberal has a certain fixed mindset. In the real world, the hardcore Liberal or Conservative you envision, simply doesn't exist to the degree you think it does. Are all Muslims terrorists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #20 December 6, 2011 QuoteAre all Muslims terrorists? Nope but on average they are family values voters and are conservative. As I recall Holland had a serious problem with Muslims not assimilating into the Dutch culture and actually tire to educate immigrants regarding tolerance of gays and lesbians. So no not terrorist but on average, conservative and will most likely vote Republican in the not too distant future.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #21 December 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteAre all Muslims terrorists? Nope but on average they are family values voters and are conservative. As I recall Holland had a serious problem with Muslims not assimilating into the Dutch culture and actually tire to educate immigrants regarding tolerance of gays and lesbians. So no not terrorist but on average, conservative and will most likely vote Republican in the not too distant future. That's good that they care about family values. Are you suggesting that's a trait only conservatives share? I can tell you a lot of Liberals care about family values too. I think you have a mental template of what a conservative is that doesn't match reality. Very likely from media influences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #22 December 6, 2011 Quote That's good that they care about family values. Are you suggesting that's a trait only conservatives share? I can tell you a lot of Liberals care about family values too. I think you have a mental template of what a conservative is that doesn't match reality. Very likely from media influences. OMG! Bro...it was a simple question. If Liberals like Canada and Holland what country do conservatives like? JUDAS!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 December 6, 2011 I kinda liked St. Thomas when I was there. St. Barts and Trinidad were pretty sweet, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #25 December 6, 2011 QuoteAmerica Mother.....fracker..... OK i give up...no really...it's like talking to autistic kids.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
