popsjumper 2 #26 December 6, 2011 Quote >When you throw a sucker punch, don't be surprised at what comes back at you. Exactly. And again, that's true of both sides. Want to shell Lebanon? Don't be surprised when they fire a few rockets at Israel. True. Lebanon: It wasn't me that threw the punch so why the hell are you punching me? You wanna punch me, big fella? Well, take this! That's when the fight really started. Well, you gotta give the Lebanese some credit for not throwing back at least. Then again, it doesn't take much smarts to realize that you may not want to piss of the 800lb gorilla.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #27 December 6, 2011 >Address THAT problem and I don't imagine Israel would be firing artillery Doesn't matter why they fired the artillery. If you punch someone in the face, don't be surprised if you get a bloody nose in return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #28 December 6, 2011 >Well, you gotta give the Lebanese some credit for not throwing back at least. Then >again, it doesn't take much smarts to realize that you may not want to piss of the >800lb gorilla. They've been throwing back for decades. And it turns out that that 2 lb ferret occasionally takes a chunk out of that 800lb gorilla. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #29 December 6, 2011 Quote Quote >When you throw a sucker punch, don't be surprised at what comes back at you. Exactly. And again, that's true of both sides. Want to shell Lebanon? Don't be surprised when they fire a few rockets at Israel. True. Lebanon: It wasn't me that threw the punch so why the hell are you punching me? You wanna punch me, big fella? Well, take this! That's when the fight really started. Well, you gotta give the Lebanese some credit for not throwing back at least. Then again, it doesn't take much smarts to realize that you may not want to piss of the 800lb gorilla. Maybe, instead of standing around and picking their asses, UNIFIL could work with the Lebanese government and come up with a plan to expel al-Q and the Iranian and Syrian backed fighters who are launching these attacks against a sovereign nation from their soil. I'm sure the peace-loving Lebanese government has not given these groups permission to use their country as a base of operations against Israel. I bet that if the attacks from Lebanese soil is stopped then the shelling from Israel would also stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #30 December 6, 2011 Quote >Address THAT problem and I don't imagine Israel would be firing artillery Doesn't matter why they fired the artillery. If you punch someone in the face, don't be surprised if you get a bloody nose in return. Oh stop with the silly assed "punch in the face" analogy (whomever started it). We are not talking about two people standing at arms length. We are talking about two countries. If you really want to keep up the punching nonsense, then I supose a more accurate analogy would go something like this: Guy J claims to be non violent, but lets Guy H stand behind him and occasionally reach out and hit Guy I with a club. Guy J says "don't you dare hit me." Guy H keeps hitting Guy I. Guy I swings back and hits Guy H with a club. Guy I brushes Guy J's arm with his wrist. Guy J complains about being struck.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #31 December 7, 2011 Quote >When you throw a sucker punch, don't be surprised at what comes back at you. Exactly. And again, that's true of both sides. Want to shell Lebanon? Don't be surprised when they fire a few rockets at Israel. fine - that explains tit for tat. Doesn't explain their attempts to get the UN to take their side in the affair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #32 December 7, 2011 Quote fine - that explains tit for tat. Doesn't explain their attempts to get the UN to take their side in the affair. It still doesn't explain the initial tat... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #33 December 7, 2011 >Doesn't explain their attempts to get the UN to take their side in the affair. That's the easiest thing to understand. Who wouldn't want to get as many people as possible on their side? We do it all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #34 December 7, 2011 Quote >Doesn't explain their attempts to get the UN to take their side in the affair. That's the easiest thing to understand. Who wouldn't want to get as many people as possible on their side? We do it all the time. Generally you try to pretend that you aren't part of the problem. That they feel they can be so openly hypocritical here is a pretty clear indication on how partial the UN has gotten on all matters Israel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 December 7, 2011 Quote >Address THAT problem and I don't imagine Israel would be firing artillery Doesn't matter why they fired the artillery. If you punch someone in the face, don't be surprised if you get a bloody nose in return. Yup - and Lebanon *did* get a bloody nose in return.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #36 December 7, 2011 Quote Oh stop with the silly assed "punch in the face" analogy... If you really want to keep up the punching nonsense, Oh. the irony... Quote Guy J claims to be non violent, but lets Guy H stand behind him and occasionally reach out and hit Guy I with a club. Guy J says "don't you dare hit me." Guy H keeps hitting Guy I. Guy I swings back and hits Guy H with a club. Guy I brushes Guy J's arm with his wrist. Guy J complains about being struck. So where's Guy K? He's the one listening to the complaint, right?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #37 December 7, 2011 Quote Quote >Address THAT problem and I don't imagine Israel would be firing artillery Doesn't matter why they fired the artillery. If you punch someone in the face, don't be surprised if you get a bloody nose in return. Yup - and Lebanon *did* get a bloody nose in return. So now we can all go have a beer by the dungfire and tell "No Shiite..." stories.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #38 December 7, 2011 Quote Quote you might want to learn a bit about Islam and Islam in Lebanon in general before you make these types of remarks. You may want to look at my location, sport. Quote They've got a very large population of non-muslims. Beside that, it wasn't the nation of Lebanon that fired those rockets, it was a terrorist organization. It wasn't a religion that fired back with artillery, either. Quote You people should really try to read the relevant information. And you might want to stick to the topic instead of trying to get in stealth digs at religion. Errr, I hate to be the one to point out the Blatantly obvious dude, but if you took all religion away from the middle east, you would be left with a large group of people who all look the same, eat the same types of food and live in the same part of the world. They would have no reason to hate each other and would most likely get along just fine. Religion IS THE PROBLEM with the middle east. On one side god's own people who think they own land due to a spell book telling them so, on the other side a group of fascist stone age woman haters who think they should kill jews because their spell book tells them too. Humanity is screwed while we still have imaginary friends..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 December 7, 2011 Quote Quote Quote you might want to learn a bit about Islam and Islam in Lebanon in general before you make these types of remarks. You may want to look at my location, sport. Quote They've got a very large population of non-muslims. Beside that, it wasn't the nation of Lebanon that fired those rockets, it was a terrorist organization. It wasn't a religion that fired back with artillery, either. Quote You people should really try to read the relevant information. And you might want to stick to the topic instead of trying to get in stealth digs at religion. Errr, I hate to be the one to point out the Blatantly obvious dude, but if you took all religion away from the middle east, you would be left with a large group of people who all look the same, eat the same types of food and live in the same part of the world. They would have no reason to hate each other and would most likely get along just fine. Religion IS THE PROBLEM with the middle east. On one side god's own people who think they own land due to a spell book telling them so, on the other side a group of fascist stone age woman haters who think they should kill jews because their spell book tells them too. Humanity is screwed while we still have imaginary friends..... I disagree to a point Radicalized religion is the problem, not religion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 December 7, 2011 Quote I disagree to a point Radicalized religion is the problem, not religion And I take it one step farther.... It's not religion...it's the bozos interpreting it. It's why we have so many flavors of the same basic religion.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #41 December 7, 2011 nope. If all the silly idiot brainwashed masses were no longer believing, then there would be no social acceptance of the radicals in the communities. So its the mainstream that ENABLES the radicals, making them part of the problem. I will state it again : When we stop believing in fairy tales and silly invisible friends we will stop this utter madness. is it not staring us in the face ??????? : ( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #42 December 7, 2011 Quote nope. If all the silly idiot brainwashed masses were no longer believing, then there would be no social acceptance of the radicals in the communities. So its the mainstream that ENABLES the radicals, making them part of the problem. I will state it again : When we stop believing in fairy tales and silly invisible friends we will stop this utter madness. is it not staring us in the face ??????? : ( Twaddle. Radicals exist in non-religious societies as well.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #43 December 7, 2011 yep, just like freely available firearms have nothing to do with the USA's unbelievable firearm homicide rate.... keep strumming the banjo dude.. If you want to see what largely Atheist societies look like , see the scandanavian countries. not exactly lining up to exterminate each other are they now? On the other hand , the middle east is the most F_K'd up place on earth right now, and also the most religious. The correlation is obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #44 December 7, 2011 Quote yep, just like freely available firearms have nothing to do with the USA's unbelievable firearm homicide rate.... That's correct, it doesn't. Quote keep strumming the banjo dude.. No need to take it away from you, you're doing a FINE job all by yourself. Quote If you want to see what largely Atheist societies look like , see the scandanavian countries. not exactly lining up to exterminate each other are they now? On the other hand , the middle east is the most F_K'd up place on earth right now, and also the most religious. The correlation is obvious. I would ask if you're aware that correlation does not imply causation, but it's evident that you're not.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #45 December 7, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 December 7, 2011 Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o Can't access youtube, sorry.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #47 December 7, 2011 >Yup - and Lebanon *did* get a bloody nose in return. And the next bloody nose will be Israel's. Since everyone has justification I guess that's fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #48 December 7, 2011 Quote It's not religion...it's the bozos interpreting it. I've read the quran, And while it's hard to concentrate on something that's hardly coherent and boring as hell, it's rather clear that violence is one of the cornerstones of that religion. There's nothing ambiguous about the different texts that state that infidels etc. must be exterminated. The message is clear, Islam should dominate the world and all means are permitted to get to that goal. We can be glad that most Muslims suck at their own religion and replace it by more benign beliefs. Quote It's why we have so many flavors of the same basic religion. I'm sorry, but this is simply not true. Buddhism isn't "another flavour" of Christianity or visa versa. Both are two completely different religions. I really can appreciate it if people try to create unity, but in the area of religion such unity simply doesn't exist. That's why religion is the source of so much hatred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #49 December 7, 2011 Quote Quote I disagree to a point Radicalized religion is the problem, not religion And I take it one step farther.... It's not religion...it's the bozos interpreting it. It's why we have so many flavors of the same basic religion. Two posts in a row that I agree with you "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #50 December 8, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o Can't access youtube, sorry. It's Geroge Carlin doing his standup routine "Religion is Bullshit". Google it and you'll probably be able to find the full text on a website that isn't blocked for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
