Andy9o8 2
jakee 1,564
QuoteQuoteWhy not?
Why?
Ya ya, typical Jakee indolence...resorting to argument by question and failure to state.
Yeah, totally... if you ignore the detailed post I made upthread, in my own words.
You, however, through your parroting of Lewis are guilty of 'failure to state' - and through your last post of refusal to state. It does not automatically follow that a search for meaning proves there is meaning to be sought, so I see no reason to take seriously an assertion you either cannot or will not explain.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
jakee 1,564
QuoteThat is quite good.Smile In an evolving universe, if there was no meaning, we would not expend energy trying to find it.
Why not?
Erroneous behaviors that make inefficient use of available resources don't convey a competitive advantage to the individuals that possess them. Therefore they die out.
How does searching for meaning impair a human being's reproductive chances?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
QuoteQuoteChances of your coming into being
Considerably higher than being thunk up by a flying spaghetti monster.
Take that back blasphemer!
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"
QuoteQuoteQuoteChances of your coming into being
Considerably higher than being thunk up by a flying spaghetti monster.
Take that back blasphemer!
....or he just might touch you with his noodley appendage...and not in the good way, either!
"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings."
"Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
"Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
maadmax 0
Erroneous behaviors that make inefficient use of available resources don't convey a competitive advantage to the individuals that possess them. Therefore they die out.
How does searching for meaning impair a human being's reproductive chances?
How does searching for meaning impair a human being's reproductive chances?
Searching for meaning has occupied the minds of the majority of people who have lived on this planet, excluding you of course. So therefore finding it must must be a common attribute of those who reproduce successfully. The nice thing about evolution is that those best adapted to reality live, the rest just die off.
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Searching for meaning has occupied the minds of the majority of people who have lived on this planet, excluding you of course. So therefore finding it must must be a common attribute of those who reproduce successfully. The nice thing about evolution is that those best adapted to reality live, the rest just die off.
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Is this a variant of intelligent design?
The ability to reproduce has fuck-all to do with thinking about ones origins. In current times, sexual capability comes long before emotional maturity and full development of the brain.
Worse, a number of religions dictate that their most dedicated (pastors, monks, etc) not have sexual relations at all. If as per your hypothesis, the search of meaning contributes to evolutionary success, shouldn't this celibacy (at least heterosexual celibacy) hurt our species chances? Maybe the truth is the other way around - religion hurts the species?
(probably not with Irish Catholics or Mormons having gigantic families)
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The ability to reproduce has fuck-all to do with thinking about ones origins.
Reproduce : Thinking of origins
Considering a degree of development where one is able to "think", can you imagine that they may statistically correlate to a significant degree?
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
Since roughly 100 billion humans have existed on this planet at one time or another, I would venture to say the figures in the article are somewhat fucked up. 
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
jakee 1,564
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Erroneous behaviors that make inefficient use of available resources don't convey a competitive advantage to the individuals that possess them. Therefore they die out.
How does searching for meaning impair a human being's reproductive chances?
Searching for meaning has occupied the minds of the majority of people who have lived on this planet, excluding you of course. So therefore finding it must must be a common attribute of those who reproduce successfully. The nice thing about evolution is that those best adapted to reality live, the rest just die off.
Your reasoning breaks down on several fronts. First, evolution does not guarantee that every facet of a species represents the best solution for each problem. When an group of species goes too far down a certain path, further generations are sometimes stuck trying to bodge a particular adaptation to fit a completely different set of circumstances. Physiologically this is easy to see, for instance, whales have lungs. Whose great idea was that?
Second, even if searching for meaning is an advantageous behaviour this does not show that there is meaning to be found. Your statement that finding meaning is a common attribute of those that reproduce in fact works against your earlier statement that there is an objective meaning to the univerese. Of the many, many completely different 'meanings' that have been found by many, many different sects and creeds over the centuries most of them don't appear to have made any difference whatsoever to the reproductive abilities of the finders. Except for the ones that found meaning in Kool-Aid, obviously.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
Considerably higher than being thunk up by a flying spaghetti monster.
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