dreamdancer 0 #1 November 18, 2011 time to put down the guns... QuoteTwenty years ago Milton Friedman, a Nobel Prize winner, the most influential economist of the 20th century, and an icon of the right, said: “If you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel.” It is only because the government makes the drugs illegal that the criminal cartel has a highly profitable monopoly on meeting the demand. Milton Friedman also said: “Government never has any right to interfere with an individual for that individual’s own good. The case for prohibiting drugs is exactly as strong and as weak as the case for prohibiting people from over-eating. We all know that over-eating causes more deaths than drugs do.” But there are a quarter-million Americans in jail for possessing or selling drugs. Nobody is in jail for producing, marketing or eating junk food. Friedman was right, of course, but forty years of the war on drugs have also shown that arguments based on logic, natural justice, or history (the obvious parallel with alcohol prohibition in the US in the 1920s and early 30s) have very little effect on policy in the main drug-importing nations. Many politicians there know that the war on drugs is futile and stupid, but the political cost of leaving the herd and saying so out loud is too high. The political leaders who are starting to say that it’s time to end the war and legalize the drugs are almost all in the producer nations, where the damage has been far graver than in the drug-importing countries. In practice, therefore, they are almost all Latin American leaders – but even there they have waited until they left office to make their views known. Former Mexican president Vicente Fox supported the US-led war on drugs when he was in office in 2000-2006, but more recently he has condemned it as an unmitigated disaster. “We should consider legalizing the production, sale and distribution of drugs,” he wrote on his blog. “Radical prohibition strategies have never worked.” http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/18stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 November 18, 2011 Yes. And believe it or not, the federal government’s banning of narcotics was the first use of the commerce clause of the US Constitution to expand the limited federal powers into domains reserved by the states. Thanks, Teddy Roosevelt! This was soon to morph into the New Deal. Now a person can break a federal law by taking a piss in her back yard. Hence, California can legalize marijuana but the Feds go right in and arrest. The war on drugs is merely the symptom of a large government. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #3 November 18, 2011 i think you'll find the war on drugs is a result of racism...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 November 18, 2011 How were you able to draw that conclusion? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 November 18, 2011 QuoteHow were you able to draw that conclusion? 1 - Everything in DD world is a result of racism and corporate and individual greed. 2 - War on Drugs is a subset of "Everything" therefore.......... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EppyNephrine 0 #6 November 18, 2011 QuoteQuote“Government never has any right to interfere with an individual for that individual’s own good." Enough said right there. Even folks who don't condone recreational drug use should support this basic principle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #7 November 18, 2011 Quote Quote How were you able to draw that conclusion? 1 - Everything in DD world is a result of racism and corporate and individual greed. 2 - War on Drugs is a subset of "Everything" therefore.......... I knew that! I was just testing you! Causes me to wonder about his true feelings in regard to race. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 November 18, 2011 Actually, for once he's got a point. A number of original drug laws were basically racist laws, just like a lot of the earliest gun laws. Marijuana, for those lazy Mexicans. Opium, for those no good Chinese. Saturday night specials, for the blacks. etc, etc.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #9 November 18, 2011 QuoteThe jail population in the United States is expected to reach 2 million on Tuesday, prompting a wave of protests across America. An explosion in inmate numbers in recent years means that although the US makes up 5% of the total global population, it now accounts for 25% of the world's prisoners. Civil rights activists and penal reform campaigners are staging vigils in more than 30 cities to protest at the reaching of the unwelcome milestone. They are demanding changes in sentencing policies to reduce the numbers of non-violent offenders, particularly drug users, who are incarcerated. About 1.3 million of the current jail population have been imprisoned for non-violent crimes, usually drug offences. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/643363.stmstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #10 November 18, 2011 Marijuana, for Beatnicks and musicians! Cocaine, for wealthy whites. Saturday night specials, for white mobsters I see your point. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #11 November 18, 2011 They all broke the laws. If, so many people don't like the laws... change 'em. Till then, that's the way it is, plain and simple. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 November 18, 2011 QuoteHow were you able to draw that conclusion? Chuck Lush Rimjob can get all the drugs he wants... so that he can rail against all those ethnic drug abusers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #13 November 18, 2011 see that tree over there - it's a tree plain and simple...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 November 18, 2011 QuoteQuoteHow were you able to draw that conclusion? Chuck Lush Rimjob can get all the drugs he wants... so that he can rail against all those ethnic drug abusers. When you have the money and the celebrity, good things happen for you. Maybe, that's what those 'occupy' folks are 'really' protesting!? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #15 November 18, 2011 Now you're getting it! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #16 November 18, 2011 and you've lost it...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #17 November 18, 2011 Quoteand you've lost it... Maybe he's back in the saddle again with some lowly Jimson weed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyShawn 0 #18 November 18, 2011 It has worked for Portugal so far... [Url]http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/27/ten-years-ago-portugal-legalized-all-drugs-what-happened-next/[/url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #19 November 19, 2011 Quotei think you'll find the war on drugs is a result of racism... Wow! We actually agree. The first federal law was marketed to prevent drug crazed Negroes from raping white women. And the growth of the federal government is necessary to prevent such things. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #20 November 19, 2011 Quote Quote How were you able to draw that conclusion? 1 - Everything in DD world is a result of racism and corporate and individual greed. 2 - War on Drugs is a subset of "Everything" therefore.......... Excellent....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #21 November 19, 2011 QuoteIt has worked for Portugal so far... [Url]http://deadlinelive.info/2011/07/27/ten-years-ago-portugal-legalized-all-drugs-what-happened-next/[/url] Yup, decrimminalization worked for Portugal. It didn't work for Mexico on th other hand. But nothing works for Mexico._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #22 November 19, 2011 QuoteLush Rimjob for fuck sakes can you grow up and stop talking like a 4 year old. " I know you are but what am I" is all I hear when you talk anymore.. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 November 19, 2011 Quote Quote Lush Rimjob for fuck sakes can you grow up and stop talking like a 4 year old. " I know you are but what am I" is all I hear when you talk anymore.. WAITER.... MORE FROMAGE AND MORE FONDUE Ahhhh its so terrible when you have to watch someone who disparages your sacred hero'sAre you going to get as butt hurt every time one of your fellow travelers uses one of his endearments for the President.. or D E M O C R A T S??? Nah didn't think so.... Back to your regularly scheduled cheese fest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #24 November 19, 2011 And you don't listen, how many times do I have to tell you I wasn't a fanboy of bush! I basically don't like a single politician I have ever met. Except Ron Paul at the moment but I'm still researching his past. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 November 19, 2011 QuoteAnd you don't listen, how many times do I have to tell you I wasn't a fanboy of bush! I basically don't like a single politician I have ever met. Except Ron Paul at the moment but I'm still researching his past. Speaking of not listening....reading comprehension can be your friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
