mnealtx 0 #51 November 17, 2011 http://ccss.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/10/Comparative-Data_2004_FINAL.pdf Like I said, y'all's volunteering puts you in first place for overall philantropy.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #52 November 17, 2011 Thanks for the list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #53 November 17, 2011 I seem to recall CERTAIN christian posters who still like to spout all kinds of Levitican laws... whenever it suits them... On the flip side though.. it seems they only like Leviticus 20.... and sidestep all the other Leviticus 1 to Leviticus 27 Picking and choosing laws.. is so very christian when it suits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #54 November 17, 2011 Poor Marinus. Such hate and vitriol. You are not a fun person to be around are you. God still loves you.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #55 November 17, 2011 QuoteThe American Atheists announce their new campaign. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/american-atheists-announces-new-myth-billboard-campaign I think this is silly and a waste of money, but it doesn't compare to all of the religous propaganda that is out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #56 November 17, 2011 QuotePoor Marinus. Such hate and vitriol. You are not a fun person to be around are you. God still loves you. Well, god hasn't smitten Marinus, like he smote Lot and Lot's wife, and Ananias and Sapphira, or the 42 children who made fun of Elisha's bald head, or the 450 prophets of Baal. God must be getting mellow in his old age.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #57 November 17, 2011 QuotePoor Marinus. Such hate and vitriol. You might want to read my posts better. I hate Christianity because that's the only sensible reaction to that religion, if you belong to one (or in my case more) of the categories that are deemed unworthy of life in the bible. However, most Christians I know are decent people despite their religion. In fact, what most Christians believe has little to do with the religion Christianity. And if you don't understand I loath a religion that says I should be killed on several rather nonsensical accounts, that isn't really my problem. I crap on Islam for exactly the same reason, btw. The difference between Muslims and Christians that Muslims tend to practice their religion the right way a bit more often. Killing infidels is a good way to practice Islam, just like setting an old lady on fire for witchcraft is the Christian thing to do. QuoteYou are not a fun person to be around are you. Because people who don't like your (?) POS religion can't be funny? Actually the only thing that's a larger buzz kill then Christianity is Islam. The lack of an Abrahamic religion tends to make people funnier. QuoteGod still loves you. Which one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #58 November 17, 2011 He didn't smite Lot because he was the most righteous person in Sodom. After all he was no homo like all the Sodomites, and he knocked up his daughters to proof it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #59 November 17, 2011 QuoteHe didn't smite Lot because he was the most righteous person in Sodom. After all he was no homo like all the Sodomites, and he knocked up his daughters to proof it. Oh, right!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #60 November 17, 2011 I always wondered why jesus had those poor brothers and sisters that didn't get much publicity. That must have been some sibling rivalry as kids... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #61 November 21, 2011 Quote Nativity scenes are, for most people, religious statements. At least mine is (it's indoors, I'll admit, and I like it enough that it's out all year). Your hubby must be thrilled about that!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #62 November 21, 2011 Quoteaccording to the bible I'm guilty of a dozen of capital crimes. We all are, and we all die a death for which God is ultimately responsible. He's God, it's his perogative. I suppose we can say he's prochoice, tho the justification of such judgement is in perpetuum even if a simple-minded hedonist disagrees. QuoteI don't respond kindly to ideologies that preach that I should be killed. Neither do those on death row...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #63 November 21, 2011 Quote So if Jesus isn't God that pretty much leaves you with the monster of the OT that preferred his genocides with rape on the side. Typical...You'll dismiss everything in scripture except that which you erroneously see as advantageous to your cause, similar to the nitwits that'll attack the reliability of NT scriptures because they were written 20-60 years after the crucifixion, and then go ahead and use the gnostic gospels written in 300-500 AD to justify their argument...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #64 November 21, 2011 Quote a realistic Christian rejects all the parts of the Bible he doesn't like. No, a realistic Christian will put forth the effort to grasp an understanding of what they find rather difficult to comprehend. Quote almost all Christians reject the Old Testament because it doesn't fit with reality. Reality is much different than it was 3000 years ago...last I checked, we don't live in a theocracy governed by strict rules designed for the survival of the rather feeble people of Israel. The Old testament was written to the Jews for the Jews. It serves today as a guide to understand God's grace and how our faith came to be...we are christians, not jewish proselytes. Quote Or more often they come up with facile justifications Ya, as if any atheistic argument against christianity isn't...what a joke.Besides, it's not like there is any justification that'll satisfy the hedonism of secular humanity that gives little regard to the concept of negative consequences... Quote The problem arises when these exact same Christians go on and on about the accuracy of the Bible and how despicable it is when people "pick and choose" which parts of the Bible to believe. Well if you understand the harmony between both the OT and NT it seems rather riduculous to claim you are justified by grace through faith and then depend on the mutilation of your penis for your salvation. It's called the Good news for a reason...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #65 November 21, 2011 QuoteOf course the song is done by idiots who think Christmas is an Christian holiday while it's in fact a pagan winter solstice celebration that's hijacked by the wine drinkers and bread eaters. And that's exactly what I celebrate. So wait...I thought you were an apatheist, now you're a pagan? Would that be the polytheistic pagans or the hedonistic ones?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #66 November 21, 2011 QuoteDid I mention the fact that I'm an apatheist? Wait, I thought you just said you were pagan... If you're apatheist, where is your apathy? You seem rather responsive to theistic stimuli, especially here in SC. How about I just call you confused....m'kay?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #67 November 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo if Jesus isn't God that pretty much leaves you with the monster of the OT that preferred his genocides with rape on the side. Typical...You'll dismiss everything in scripture except that which you erroneously see as advantageous to your cause, So how do you feel about selling your daughter into slavery, and stoning people for wearing the wrong mix of fibers in their garments?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #68 November 21, 2011 Before I ignore you again: the winter solstice is a real event that happens every year, you don't need to be religious to believe in it! And because I hate winter, the winter solstice is a significant event for me because as far as I'm concerned it's the rock bottom of the year. point two: I don't ignore the good stuff in the bible, but since I've to sift through tons of manure from the deepest gutters of human depravity I reject the bible anyway. You can throw confetti on a manure cart all you want, it still stays a manure cart. The Bible is right up there with his close buddies the Quran and Mein Kampf. Books that preach hatred, intolerance and bigotry but that happen to contain some good stuff too Thirdly: I'm apathetic towards religion but not towards religious people, because, you know, many of them aren't content to keep their religion to them selves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #69 November 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo if Jesus isn't God that pretty much leaves you with the monster of the OT that preferred his genocides with rape on the side. Typical...You'll dismiss everything in scripture except that which you erroneously see as advantageous to your cause, So how do you feel about selling your daughter into slavery, and stoning people for wearing the wrong mix of fibers in their garments? I wouldn't do it, but then again I'm not a feeble minded jew living in a culture that existed several thousand of years ago.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #70 November 21, 2011 QuoteBefore I ignore you again That's funny... I'll add "ignore" to the list of definitions that elude your comprehension...right next to "apathy"Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #71 November 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo if Jesus isn't God that pretty much leaves you with the monster of the OT that preferred his genocides with rape on the side. Typical...You'll dismiss everything in scripture except that which you erroneously see as advantageous to your cause, So how do you feel about selling your daughter into slavery, and stoning people for wearing the wrong mix of fibers in their garments? I wouldn't do it, but then again I'm not a feeble minded jew living in a culture that existed several thousand of years ago. So you dismiss the parts of scripture that you find inconvenient. How typical.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #72 November 21, 2011 >No, a realistic Christian will put forth the effort to grasp an understanding of what >they find rather difficult to comprehend. What is your understanding of Leviticus 20:13? >Reality is much different than it was 3000 years ago.. Ding ding ding! You got it! And what worked 3000 years ago sometimes doesn't work today. >we are christians, not jewish proselytes. Which is an excellent reason to disregard some parts of the Old Testament when it comes to how to live your life. Which, of course, is the point. >Well if you understand the harmony between both the OT and NT it seems rather >riduculous to claim you are justified by grace through faith and then depend on the >mutilation of your penis for your salvation. Definitely agree there. Others think other parts of the Bible are no longer valid. And they're just as right as you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #73 November 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo if Jesus isn't God that pretty much leaves you with the monster of the OT that preferred his genocides with rape on the side. Typical...You'll dismiss everything in scripture except that which you erroneously see as advantageous to your cause, So how do you feel about selling your daughter into slavery, and stoning people for wearing the wrong mix of fibers in their garments? I wouldn't do it, but then again I'm not a feeble minded jew living in a culture that existed several thousand of years ago. So you dismiss the parts of scripture that you find inconvenient. How typical. No, I don't dismiss it nor do I find it inconvenient...It's all right there in scripture, I believe it happened. Now, perhaps you can show me where it commands me to sell my daughter into slavery? ...and I can't really stone anyone in good conscience since I'm just as guilty...I believe Christ taught something about the wisdom behind that little gem of truth. Apparently you didn't retain much from your 13 years of adolescent biblical scholarship...it's been awhile, eh?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #74 November 21, 2011 QuoteQuote>Well if you understand the harmony between both the OT and NT it seems rather >riduculous to claim you are justified by grace through faith and then depend on the >mutilation of your penis for your salvation Definitely agree there. Others think other parts of the Bible are no longer valid. Sure, and if it doesn't apply today, do they understand why...or do they just use it as an excuse to bolster their disbelief and propagate their ignorance of the subject?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #75 November 21, 2011 >Sure, and if it doesn't apply today, do they understand why...or do they just use it >as an excuse to bolster their disbelief and propagate their ignorance of the subject? Some understand, some don't. A lot of people have their minds made up no matter what the details of what's actually in the Bible (on both sides of the fence.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
