dreamdancer 0 #1 November 15, 2011 interesting... QuoteThe NRA’s “restoration movement” on behalf of ex-cons has already cost lives, and continues to jeopardize public safety. Even felons with histories of stalking and mental health problems can get their gun rights back almost immediately. A man in Washington state used his Glock-17 semiautomatic handgun to commit another murder two months after he was released from prison for two felony convictions. Ex-cons’ easy access to guns serves as a bizarre juxtaposition with the barriers they face trying to vote. All but two states restrict ex-cons’ ability to vote after they are released, with 36 prohibiting them from voting while they are on parole and three disenfranchising former felons for the rest of their lives. Ex-cons are the single biggest group of disenfranchised citizens in the country, with 4.7 million Americans — or one in 43 adults — having currently or permanently lost their right to vote as the result of felony conviction. Hispanic and black communities are disproportionately effected by these laws, with 13 percent of adult black men barred from exercising their constitutional right to vote. http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/730797/ex-convicts_find_it_hard_to_vote%2C_but_easy_to_get_guns/#paragraph2stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 November 15, 2011 Gotta love alter-nut....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #3 November 15, 2011 QuoteHard To Vote, But Easy To Get Guns Yeh? When's the last time you got some asshole to STFU with a vote? "I swear to God, bitch, you don't shuddup, I'm voting for Bachmann! I'm gonna do it! I swear, I'm gonna do it!" Votes. Guns. Each has its place. "Right tool for the job", et al. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 November 15, 2011 Quote"I swear to God, bitch, you don't shuddup, I'm voting for Bachmann! I'm gonna do it! I swear, I'm gonna do it!" That would work on me. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 November 15, 2011 QuoteThe NRA’s “restoration movement” on behalf of ex-cons has already cost lives, and continues to jeopardize public safety. Even felons with histories of stalking and mental health problems can get their gun rights back almost immediately. A man in Washington state used his Glock-17 semiautomatic handgun to commit another murder two months after he was released from prison for two felony convictions. Sounds just like a Brady bunch press release. Just because they "can" doesn't mean they do. Such restorations happen only with a judge's approval. And please specify the name of "a man in Washington", so that we can research to find out if this felon was one of those who had his rights restored, or if he just obtained his Glock illegaly. It's highly suspicious why they are so vague about that. It's the kind of tactic the gun-o-phobes would use to imply something that isn't really true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #6 November 15, 2011 so you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 November 15, 2011 Quoteso you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights... Another grad of the billvon Twister 101 Course"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #8 November 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteso you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights... Another grad of the billvon Twister 101 Course billvon - that heartless defender of the 1%...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 November 15, 2011 Quote Quote Quote so you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights... Another grad of the billvon Twister 101 Course billvon - that heartless defender of the 1%... At the head of the class too!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #10 November 15, 2011 Quoteso you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights... No, he asked for more details. You really need to quit jumping to conclusions when you are unable to back your original post up with data. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #11 November 15, 2011 I'm against ex-cons getting back gun rights or voting rights."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 November 15, 2011 Quoteso you're ok for them to get their 'gun' rights back - but not their democratic voting rights... Bzzzt! Incorrect conclusion. I'm in favor of them having a process by which they can get both back, if they can show they deserve it, by leading a law-abiding and productive life after serving their sentence for prior crimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 917 #13 November 15, 2011 I believe Florida has a process like that...for non-violent felons anyway. I'd support a plan like that for people to make up for their mistakes. More so given how rapidly we are developing an "arrest everyone let the judge sort it out" mentality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites