kallend 2,146 #1 November 3, 2011 Story seems to change daily. www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cain-perry-settlement-20111103,0,3470096.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fmostviewed+%28L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories%29... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 November 3, 2011 Did he ever actually stand a chance?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 November 3, 2011 QuoteDid he ever actually stand a chance? I hope so (and I think so) He was my choice months ago Since the charges his money raising has increased as too many anonomous claims just tend to get blown off as bs here in Iowa where people really think OTOH, should these claims be shown to be true He could change to a Dem and win on the Dem side of the ticket I would vote for him then too!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 November 3, 2011 Something I don't understand... if, a guy is innocent of sexual harrassment, why would he pay hush-money to an accuser? As for Cain's chances... who knows? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 November 3, 2011 QuoteSomething I don't understand... if, a guy is innocent of sexual harrassment, why would he pay hush-money to an accuser? As for Cain's chances... who knows? Chuck Happens all the time Companies pay to have the accusation go away Not that there is any merit to the charge however, it may be cheaper to pay it off (if they accept a low enough number) than it is to pay the lawyer to litigate it. As a dentist, my sister has had her insurance company force her (twisted arms anyway) to settle, even though the claim was bogus"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 November 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... if, a guy is innocent of sexual harrassment, why would he pay hush-money to an accuser? As for Cain's chances... who knows? Chuck Happens all the time Companies pay to have the accusation go away Not that there is any merit to the charge however, it may be cheaper to pay it off (if they accept a low enough number) than it is to pay the lawyer to litigate it. As a dentist, my sister has had her insurance company force her (twisted arms anyway) to settle, even though the claim was bogus True, but how can you possibly know what the case is with Cain? I mean, people also settle when they actually have done things too.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 November 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteSomething I don't understand... if, a guy is innocent of sexual harrassment, why would he pay hush-money to an accuser? As for Cain's chances... who knows? Chuck Happens all the time Companies pay to have the accusation go away Not that there is any merit to the charge however, it may be cheaper to pay it off (if they accept a low enough number) than it is to pay the lawyer to litigate it. As a dentist, my sister has had her insurance company force her (twisted arms anyway) to settle, even though the claim was bogus True, but how can you possibly know what the case is with Cain? We dont yet"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #8 November 3, 2011 Quote True, but how can you possibly know what the case is with Cain? I mean, people also settle when they actually have done things too. You can't know. One side is prohibited from talking, the other side (if guilty) has massive incentive to lie and no disincentive."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #9 November 3, 2011 QuoteQuote True, but how can you possibly know what the case is with Cain? I mean, people also settle when they actually have done things too. You can't know. One side is prohibited from talking, the other side (if guilty) has massive incentive to lie and no disincentive. We DO know his story keeps changing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #10 November 3, 2011 >We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #11 November 3, 2011 Quote Quote Something I don't understand... if, a guy is innocent of sexual harrassment, why would he pay hush-money to an accuser? As for Cain's chances... who knows? Chuck Happens all the time Companies pay to have the accusation go away Not that there is any merit to the charge however, it may be cheaper to pay it off (if they accept a low enough number) than it is to pay the lawyer to litigate it. As a dentist, my sister has had her insurance company force her (twisted arms anyway) to settle, even though the claim was bogus The doors have been left wide-open for someone to make a quick buck. We do live in a lottery society! Also, Cain should get a refund for the money he paid-out for his accusers to keep their pie-holes shut when in fact... they didn't! Chuck Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 November 3, 2011 Quote>We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. It will not go away EVER No matter what And your post proves that For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven As opposed to proving guilt"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #13 November 3, 2011 >For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven Right. Like the Obama birth certificate issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 November 3, 2011 Quote>For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven Right. Like the Obama birth certificate issue. Yes And at least you see the truth of this mess"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 November 3, 2011 Quote>For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven Right. Like the Obama birth certificate issue. Like the "Tea Party Violence" issue.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 November 3, 2011 Quote>We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. Seems to be doing ok http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/election_2012_republican_presidential_primary"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #17 November 3, 2011 Quote >For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven Right. Like the Obama birth certificate issue. Let's be honest, A U.S. birth certificate is a requirement for President of the United States. Also, you can't be President unless you have sexually harassed a girl or cheated on your wife. Cain won't qualify for office until he is found guilty. Am I wrong?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #18 November 3, 2011 QuoteQuote>We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. It will not go away EVER No matter what And your post proves that For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven As opposed to proving guilt You are correct, only a Republican needs to prove himself innocent of unsubstantiated, anonymous charges."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 November 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote>We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. It will not go away EVER No matter what And your post proves that For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven As opposed to proving guilt You are correct, only a Republican needs to prove himself innocent of unsubstantiated, anonymous charges. Hmmm a rightie wingie argueing against FAMILY VALUES... intersting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #20 November 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote >We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. It will not go away EVER No matter what And your post proves that For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven As opposed to proving guilt You are correct, only a Republican needs to prove himself innocent of unsubstantiated, anonymous charges. Hmmm a rightie wingie argueing against FAMILY VALUES... intersting All I'm saying is at least when the Public went after Bill Clinton they had names, dates, places, semen samples, etc... Speaking of which, would you like a cigar?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 November 3, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >We dont yet True. When he produces proof that he is innocent, it will then go away. It will not go away EVER No matter what And your post proves that For the Dems it is how serious the charge is so innocents has to be proven As opposed to proving guilt You are correct, only a Republican needs to prove himself innocent of unsubstantiated, anonymous charges. Hmmm a rightie wingie argueing against FAMILY VALUES... intersting All I'm saying is at least when the Public went after Bill Clinton they had names, dates, places, semen samples, etc... Speaking of which, would you like a cigar? Nah... you can go ahead and reuse it yourself after you get thru abusing it ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #22 November 4, 2011 >Let's be honest, A U.S. birth certificate is a requirement for President >of the United States. Nope. He just has to be natural born. McCain did not have a US birth certificate, for example; he was not born in the US. Obama was born in Hawaii and thus was a natural born citizen. Of course, that did not stop right wingers, who demanded that he prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had a standard format birth certificate. >Also, you can't be President unless you have sexually harassed a girl or >cheated on your wife. OK, I will take your word for it. (Don't know where that's written down, but let's go with it.) If the left becomes as ridiculous as the right was, then he will have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not sexually harass those two (now three) women. Fortunately for Cain, the extreme left wing is a bit less nuts than the extreme right wing. And in any case he'll have his hands full just deflecting right wing attacks; Perry is now firing back after Cain accused him of intentionally leaking stories about his harassment cases. Edited to add - the Perry campaign is now accusing the ROMNEY campaign of leaking the stories. This just gets better and better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 November 4, 2011 QuoteIf the left becomes as ridiculous as the right was, then he will have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not sexually harass those two (now three) women. Funny how that same standard of proof didn't have to be adhered to regarding Clinton, or Kerry's military records vs. Bush's. QuoteFortunately for Cain, the extreme left wing is a bit less nuts than the extreme right wing. Oh, please.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #24 November 4, 2011 >>If the left becomes as ridiculous as the right was, then he will have to >> prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not sexually harass >>those two (now three) women. >Funny how that same standard of proof didn't have to be adhered to >regarding Clinton, or Kerry's military records vs. Bush's. Yes, it is funny; thank you for proving my point about the extreme right being more nuts than the extreme left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 November 4, 2011 Quote>>If the left becomes as ridiculous as the right was, then he will have to >> prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did not sexually harass >>those two (now three) women. >Funny how that same standard of proof didn't have to be adhered to >regarding Clinton, or Kerry's military records vs. Bush's. Yes, it is funny; thank you for proving my point about the extreme right being more nuts than the extreme left. Yet it's the media on the left that keeps bringing it up over and over... thanks for proving MY point.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
