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mnealtx 0
QuoteThe part you missed is YOUR HERO's purposely fucked people like you.. all over the red states including your holy hallowed ground... by the thousands with the "Halliburton Loophole" AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
Really? Is that why the non-existent "Halliburton loophole" was closed by a bill submitted by a REPUBLICAN in 2005?
Why don't you show us the EPA reports from those THOUSANDS of people that you claim were 'fucked over'.... oh, wait...
"Regardless, since EPAs 2004 study found no confirmed cases of contamination from the relatively shallow hydraulic fracturing of CBM reservoirs3, it is not unreasonable to conclude that the risk of fracture fluid intrusion into ground water from the hydraulic fracturing of deeper
conventional and unconventional oil and gas zones could be considered very low" - US DOE report, May 2009
QuoteHey its not my fault that some people are too fucking stupid to find out the real truth
This, coming from the living embodiment of Barnum's rule....irony score incalculable.
Quote....not the " truth" that comes from APPROVED FAUX News sources.
Show my links back to Fox...oh, wait, you *CAN'T* because there aren't any.
Mike
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QuoteQuoteThe part you missed is YOUR HERO's purposely fucked people like you.. all over the red states including your holy hallowed ground... by the thousands with the "Halliburton Loophole" AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
Really? Is that why the non-existent "Halliburton loophole" was closed by a bill submitted by a REPUBLICAN in 2005?
Why don't you show us the EPA reports from those THOUSANDS of people that you claim were 'fucked over'.... oh, wait...
"Regardless, since EPAs 2004 study found no confirmed cases of contamination from the relatively shallow hydraulic fracturing of CBM reservoirs3, it is not unreasonable to conclude that the risk of fracture fluid intrusion into ground water from the hydraulic fracturing of deeper
conventional and unconventional oil and gas zones could be considered very low" - US DOE report, May 2009QuoteHey its not my fault that some people are too fucking stupid to find out the real truth
This, coming from the living embodiment of Barnum's rule....irony score incalculable.Quote....not the " truth" that comes from APPROVED FAUX News sources.
Show my links back to Fox...oh, wait, you *CAN'T* because there aren't any.
Cesspool
Just cause Yall dig it... I would say the rest of us will pass on swimmin in the cesspool
mnealtx 0
Must've missed where any of those were from fracking.... try again.
Looks like Washington has it's own fair share of those cesspools you mention, though.
Looks like Washington has it's own fair share of those cesspools you mention, though.
Mike
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QuoteMust've missed where any of those were from fracking.... try again.
Looks like Washington has it's own fair share of those cesspools you mention, though.
There is a difference... here they are cleaning up and doing something about it..yeah we have some of the same morons with the same mindset.. of greed above all else. Texas.... umm yeah... more holes.. more millions of gallons of water.. more thousands of tons of cancer causing chemicals injected into the water tables all the time.... but really if yall dig drinking polluted shit... more power to ya.
As far as those caused by fracking...all you need to do is see the map of the THOUSANDS of wells all over your o so "holy" Texas... yeah the one will TRILLIONS of gallons of unusable water.. well at least unusable to those of us who value the health of our families.
And with that I will cease posting for now...To prevent poor diablopilots head from exploding... or at least all that head spinning and spewing green pea soup/
mnealtx 0
QuoteAs far as those caused by fracking...all you need to do is see the map of the THOUSANDS of wells all over your o so "holy" Texas... yeah the one will TRILLIONS of gallons of unusable water.. well at least unusable to those of us who value the health of our families.
All those ones with NO EPA reports of contamination, you mean? Yeah, I thought so.
QuoteAnd with that I will cease posting for now...To prevent poor diablopilots head from exploding... or at least all that head spinning and spewing green pea soup/
To save yourself from even FURTHER embarassment, you mean? But hey...it's *your* excuse, tell it how you like.
Mike
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QuoteQuoteAs far as those caused by fracking...all you need to do is see the map of the THOUSANDS of wells all over your o so "holy" Texas... yeah the one will TRILLIONS of gallons of unusable water.. well at least unusable to those of us who value the health of our families.
All those ones with NO EPA reports of contamination, you mean? Yeah, I thought so.QuoteAnd with that I will cease posting for now...To prevent poor diablopilots head from exploding... or at least all that head spinning and spewing green pea soup/
To save yourself from even FURTHER embarassment, you mean? But hey...it's *your* excuse, tell it how you like.
Tsk tsk tsk
Poor Wittle Mikees special little place
So so easy
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Pssst.. JP.. dont drink the water
mnealtx 0
Must've missed the EPA reports on those...got copies of 'em?
Oh, wait...in Jeannie-world, just *saying* it's due to fracking is good enough.
Oh, wait...in Jeannie-world, just *saying* it's due to fracking is good enough.
Mike
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QuoteMust've missed the EPA reports on those...got copies of 'em?
Oh, wait...in Jeannie-world, just *saying* it's due to fracking is good enough.
Oh wait... look its Texas.. where pollution is done bigger and better than any other state can do it... whats a bunch of dead Texicans from all the environmental degradation right?
As long as the "people who matter" make the big bucks and push the environment and the climate farther down the toilet.. oh well. Maybe they think they can afford not to get sick or nothing can possibly can't be effected.... funny.. but that does not work out so well for even them a lot of times. Then there are their blithering worshipers.... hopin for that little trickle they were "promised".
Its ok Mikee.. who would actually expect YOU to go read anything that would challenge your rather narrow world view.
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Why don't you three get a hotel room?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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Why don't you three get a hotel room?
Sorry I will pass on that....Personally I think a few of the usual suspects need the services of Banasurama... since someone obviously does not seem to be getting enough ball sack torture in their lives.
mnealtx 0
QuoteIts ok Mikee.. who would actually expect YOU to go read anything that would challenge your rather narrow world view.
I read the stuff from EPA and DOE that affirms no reports of contamination due to fracking...what've *you* got besides a nanothermite level mockumentary?
Mike
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QuoteQuoteIts ok Mikee.. who would actually expect YOU to go read anything that would challenge your rather narrow world view.
I read the stuff from EPA and DOE that affirms no reports of contamination due to fracking...what've *you* got besides a nanothermite level
It is a refrain that not only drilling proponents, but also state and federal lawmakers, even past and present Environmental Protection Agency directors, have repeated often.
But there is in fact a documented case, and the E.P.A. report that discussed it suggests there may be more. Researchers, however, were unable to investigate many suspected cases because their details were sealed from the public when energy companies settled lawsuits with landowners.
Current and former E.P.A. officials say this practice continues to prevent them from fully assessing the risks of certain types of gas drilling.
“I still don’t understand why industry should be allowed to hide problems when public safety is at stake,” said Carla Greathouse, the author of the E.P.A. report that documents a case of drinking water contamination from fracking. “If it’s so safe, let the public review all the cases.”
Also www.ewg.org/release/epa-report-fracking-contaminated-drinking-water
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteIts ok Mikee.. who would actually expect YOU to go read anything that would challenge your rather narrow world view.
I read the stuff from EPA and DOE that affirms no reports of contamination due to fracking...what've *you* got besides a nanothermite level
It is a refrain that not only drilling proponents, but also state and federal lawmakers, even past and present Environmental Protection Agency directors, have repeated often.
But there is in fact a documented case, and the E.P.A. report that discussed it suggests there may be more. Researchers, however, were unable to investigate many suspected cases because their details were sealed from the public when energy companies settled lawsuits with landowners.
Current and former E.P.A. officials say this practice continues to prevent them from fully assessing the risks of certain types of gas drilling.
“I still don’t understand why industry should be allowed to hide problems when public safety is at stake,” said Carla Greathouse, the author of the E.P.A. report that documents a case of drinking water contamination from fracking. “If it’s so safe, let the public review all the cases.”
A single, disputed case from 30 years ago? Holy shit, stop the presses.
Mike
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIts ok Mikee.. who would actually expect YOU to go read anything that would challenge your rather narrow world view.
I read the stuff from EPA and DOE that affirms no reports of contamination due to fracking...what've *you* got besides a nanothermite level
It is a refrain that not only drilling proponents, but also state and federal lawmakers, even past and present Environmental Protection Agency directors, have repeated often.
But there is in fact a documented case, and the E.P.A. report that discussed it suggests there may be more. Researchers, however, were unable to investigate many suspected cases because their details were sealed from the public when energy companies settled lawsuits with landowners.
Current and former E.P.A. officials say this practice continues to prevent them from fully assessing the risks of certain types of gas drilling.
“I still don’t understand why industry should be allowed to hide problems when public safety is at stake,” said Carla Greathouse, the author of the E.P.A. report that documents a case of drinking water contamination from fracking. “If it’s so safe, let the public review all the cases.”
A single, disputed case from 30 years ago? Holy shit, stop the presses.
Perhaps you should return home to Texas.. and drink some more of that FINE.. clean Texas water..or are you like the company men who will not touch that shit with a 10 foot pole.
Another interesting article on RealClearScience today regarading the technique with which scientists understand ocean flows over time:
Evidence of water mass moving south 70 million years ago shows how warmth was distributed
Thought this was interesting. Warming Papers have yet to arrive at my library. Should be here in the next week or so.
Evidence of water mass moving south 70 million years ago shows how warmth was distributed
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To track circulation patterns, the researchers focused on “neodymium,” an element that is taken up by fish teeth and bones when a fish dies and falls to the ocean floor. MacLeod said the ratio of two isotopes of neodymium acts as a natural tracking system for water masses. In the area where a water mass forms, the water takes on a neodymium ratio like that in rocks on nearby land. As the water moves through the ocean, though, that ratio changes little. Because the fish take up the neodymium from water at the seafloor, the ratio in the fish fossils reflects the values in the area where the water sank into the deep ocean. Looking at changes through time and at many sites allowed the scientists to track water mass movements.
Thought this was interesting. Warming Papers have yet to arrive at my library. Should be here in the next week or so.
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Here you go Mike
This is more of why many of us question the alarmists pc speak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-climate-change-sceptics-proved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html
and
This is more of why many of us question the alarmists pc speak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2055191/Scientists-said-climate-change-sceptics-proved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html
QuoteScientist who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague
and
QuoteThe Washington Post said the BEST study had ‘settled the climate change debate’ and showed that anyone who remained a sceptic was committing a ‘cynical fraud’.
But today The Mail on Sunday can reveal that a leading member of Prof Muller’s team has accused him of trying to mislead the public by hiding the fact that BEST’s research shows global warming has stopped.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
An interesting article on the web today regarding Prof Judith Curry's comments on Prof Richard Muller's BEST press release.
http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/280948/Is-global-warming-over
Quoting Prof Judity Curry:
The thing that makes this article so interesting are the reader comments. No religious spouting... quite the rarity these days. The readers' comments seem reasonably informed, and they are not AGW alarmists. Here's one example:
Looks like there's still alot of work to be done sorting out all the forces that are active in Earth's dynamic system.
Still waiting on the Warming Papers from the library...
http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/280948/Is-global-warming-over
Quoting Prof Judity Curry:
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“Whatever it is that is going on here it doesn’t look like it’s being dominated by carbon dioxide,” says Prof Curry.
The thing that makes this article so interesting are the reader comments. No religious spouting... quite the rarity these days. The readers' comments seem reasonably informed, and they are not AGW alarmists. Here's one example:
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The question arises – What is the best metric for a global measure of and for discussion of global warming or cooling.?
The Hadley Sea Surface Temperature data is the best metric.For the following reasons:
1. Oceans cover about 70% of the surface.
2. Because of the thermal inertia of water – short term noise is smoothed out.
3. All the questions that Murray addresses re UHI, changes in land use local topographic effects etc are simply sidestepped.
4. Perhaps most importantly – what we really need to measure is the enthalpy of the system – the land measurements do not capture this aspect because the relative humidity at the time of temperature measurement is ignored. In water the temperature changes are a good measure of relative enthalpy changes.
5. It is very clear that the most direct means to short term and decadal length predictions is through the study of the interactions of the atmospheric sytems ,ocean currents and temperature regimes – PDO ,ENSO. SOI AMO AO etc etc. and the SST is a major measure of these systems.
This data shows The 5 year moving SST temperature average shows that the warming trend peaked in 2003 and a simple regression analysis shows an eight year global SST cooling trend since then .The data shows warming from 1900 - 1940 ,cooling from 1940 to about 1975 and warming from 1975 – 2003. CO2 levels rose monotonically during this entire period.
There has been no net warming since 1997 - 14 years with CO2 up 7% and no net warming. Anthropogenic CO2 has some effect but our knowledge of the natural drivers is still so poor that we cannot accurately estimate what the anthropogenic CO2 contribution is. Since 2003 CO2 has risen further and yet the global temperature trend is negative. This is obviously a short term on which to base predictions but in the context of declining solar magnetic field strength and activity – to the extent of a possible Dalton or Maunder minimum and the negative phase of the Pacific Decadal a global 20 – 30 year cooling spell is more likely than a warming trend.
It is clear that the IPCC models , on which AL Gore based his entire anti CO2 scare campaign ,have been wrongly framed. and their predictions have failed completely. Humidity, and natural CO2 levels are solar feedback effects not prime drivers. Recent experiments at CERN have shown the possible powerful influence of cosmic rays on clouds and climate.
Solar Cycle 24 will peak in a year or two thus masking the cooling to some extent, but from 2014 on the cooling trend will become so obvious that even Huhne will be unable to continue ignoring the real world.
Looks like there's still alot of work to be done sorting out all the forces that are active in Earth's dynamic system.
Still waiting on the Warming Papers from the library...
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Another link taken from a reader's comments:
Lots of interesting stuff here...
Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers
I'm already convinced that Al Gore is a huckster. I'm now reasonably convinced that Lisa Jackson's decision at the EPA to shut down 8% of our electrical grid in the immediate near term was dangerously irrational.
More to come...
Lots of interesting stuff here...
Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers
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Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?
It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.
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Scientists are increasingly recognizing the importance of water vapor in the climate system. Some, like Wallace Broecker, a geochemist at Columbia's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, suggest that it is such an important factor that much of the global warming in the last 10,000 years may be due to the increasing water vapor concentrations in Earth's atmosphere.
His research indicates that air reaching glaciers during the last Ice Age had less than half the water vapor content of today. Such increases in atmospheric moisture during our current interglacial period would have played a far greater role in global warming than carbon dioxide or other minor gases.
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" There is no dispute at all about the fact that even if punctiliously observed, (the Kyoto Protocol) would have an imperceptible effect on future temperatures -- one-twentieth of a degree by 2050. "
Dr. S. Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist
Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia,
and former director of the US Weather Satellite Service;
in a Sept. 10, 2001 Letter to Editor, Wall Street Journal
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The ability of humans to influence greenhouse water vapor is negligible. As such, individuals and groups whose agenda it is to require that human beings are the cause of global warming must discount or ignore the effects of water vapor to preserve their arguments, citing numbers similar to those in Table 4b . If political correctness and staying out of trouble aren't high priorities for you, go ahead and ask them how water vapor was handled in their models or statistics. Chances are, it wasn't!
I'm already convinced that Al Gore is a huckster. I'm now reasonably convinced that Lisa Jackson's decision at the EPA to shut down 8% of our electrical grid in the immediate near term was dangerously irrational.
More to come...
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In the last six months I have found judithcurry.com and I really like it. The reason is that she isn’t Wattsupwiththat – who will be sardonic. She is not realclimate – who is also just too heavy toward the alarmist side (and cliquish). Dr. Curry is a climate scientist who approaches this as the moderate and the voice of reason. She calls out alarmists and deniers. She is the only person out there who is pointing out what I’ve been saying – that climate science is an adjunct to policy and that they should be kept separate.
She points out problems on all sides and generally discusses them rationally. She sets the tone for her blog and it is informative and readable.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
She points out problems on all sides and generally discusses them rationally. She sets the tone for her blog and it is informative and readable.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
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rushmc 23
QuoteLink doesn't work...
Works fine on my computer
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Maybe you should have done some research - then you would have known that the testimony was from December 2009. You also would have known that Silva and Giles are Obama appointees, not Bush.
You also would have found out that Lisa Jackson (EPA administrator), in sworn testimony before Congress on May 2011, said: "I'm not aware of any proven case where the fracking process itself has affected water, although there are investigations ongoing."
Damn...must SUCK to be *so* wrong, *so* often.
The part you missed is YOUR HERO's purposely fucked people like you.. all over the red states including your holy hallowed ground... by the thousands with the "Halliburton Loophole" AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN
Hey its not my fault that some people are too fucking stupid to find out the real truth....not the " truth" that comes from APPROVED FAUX News sources.
You can play word games all you want.. but drinking TOXIC shit and that whole WEASELINGwords that you love to do... I guess its a conservative thing huh... PROVEN is guilty until proven innocent
Want to have a little competition Mikee..
I will drink clean water from an the resevoir I get my water from in the Cascades.. and you can drink some of the water in the documentary... and see who lives without getting sick and debilitated the longest??
Remember now... water is life... and when the fracking company guys wont touch the water... THEY know whats in it... It will really suck when vast tracts of America have polluted water that only kills animals and people.