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Coreece 190
QuoteScience deals with everything around us.
Exactly...there are billions of people who will tell you they have an innate desire to know God. If you are gonna make a claim that it's not innate...you're gonna have to prove it.
QuoteScience is a method for understanding what is around us and cutting through the illusions that are a part of the human brain.
Well than you're gonna have to prove an illusion actually exists...
Many have stated that belief in God is simply an evolutionary benefit...ok, prove it.
QuoteIt's a way or method of testing everything so that we can better understand the world around us and filter between real and illusion
hahaha...you assume you can understand tho totality of reality.
That's a good one!
Coreece 190
QuoteYour statement assumes there is a god for people to have "an inate desire to know".
Ya,so what? I was born this way...it is what it is.
Your assumption is that this God doesn't exist and was created by man...prove it.
Some say that this belief is the result of an evolutionary benefit...prove it.
QuoteYou seem to think that because billions of humans believe in a deity or deitys that there is "an inate desire" to know your god
And you seem to think that we're all a bunch of nuts because we don't supress our natural feelings...prove it.
Coreece 190
QuoteI must have missed that thread. Which one did he predict the end of the world in?
I didn't...John is just notorious for making assinine claims about people that he can never back up.
He's very black and white...if you don't agree with him on one trivial issue, you're deemed an idiotic conservative christian extremist war mongering homophobic pro life dictator....
Ya, I know...there was a time when people actually respected him regardless of his positions, but the last couple of months have proven to be a fall from grace from which he'll probably never recover...
Coreece 190
QuoteI was born this way
This intermission is brought to you by lady Gaga and Shady/interscope records...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1FrqwZyKw
Coreece 190
Hey Babin...What if I had to sacrafice my son to save your sorry ass?
Would you spit in my face?
That's what I AM is...I'm born this way.
jaybird18c 25
QuoteYou can 10 people the same "scientific facts" but the metaphysical realities they create for themselves out of those facts will all be different. I am all for scientific discovery, but that is only a small part of the comprehensive picture of reality.
Correct. A person's worldview informs their interpretation of evidence.
jaybird18c 25
QuoteQuoteOr it could be that God is more concerned with our righteousness and where we will spend eternity than all of the other trivial things we come up with.
don't be self-contradictory - if your diety is omni(potent/scient), it would have no need or desire to prioritize
God has revealed Himself to be personal and relational in His nature as well as infinitely intelligent, organized, complex, etc. It would be illogical to assign attributes to or have expectations from God which would be against His nature. In fact, that would fall into the classic category of "creating a god in your own image (e.g. idolotry).
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteYour statement assumes there is a god for people to have "an inate desire to know".
Ya,so what? I was born this way...it is what it is.
Your assumption is that this God doesn't exist and was created by man...prove it.
Some say that this belief is the result of an evolutionary benefit...prove it.QuoteYou seem to think that because billions of humans believe in a deity or deitys that there is "an inate desire" to know your god
And you seem to think that we're all a bunch of nuts because we don't supress our natural feelings...prove it.
I am not assuming there isn't a god. I am basing that conclusion on the lack of evidence of any deity at all.
It is much more logical to think that man created gods to explain the unexplainable. Gods were once used to explain nearly every natural phenomena. Now we know that lightning and thunder aren't angry gods acting out.
I think humans have an "inate desire" to understand the world around them and want to give meaning to their lives. Considering that there is no evidence to suggest any god exists this makes more sense then just assuming there is a god and the one you happen to believe in is the only one that exists.
jaybird18c 25
QuoteThat's a great question, The bible promises that if you just ask, you shall receive.
If you or I were able to perfectly relate to God and our will was in harmony with His (as was the case with Adam prior to the fall), then you would receive anything you asked. Problem is, that is from reality. Our motives are flawed. We have never loved God perfectly (as Jesus did) nor do we love our neighbors as we should. Those verses you quoted, as with the 10 Commandments, should show you your need of a Savior and point you to the cross. You should also attempt to read in context. Derive meaning from the text instead of inserting your own personal meaning into it.
jclalor 12
.Quoteshould show you your need of a Savior and point you to the cross
Speaking of the cross, and how you see it everywhere. Now don't you think, if Jesus came back, that's the last thing he would want to see?
RonD1120 62
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.Quoteshould show you your need of a Savior and point you to the cross
Speaking of the cross, and how you see it everywhere. Now don't you think, if Jesus came back, that's the last thing he would want to see?
Why? It is the symbol of His victory over physical death.
jaybird18c 25
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.Quoteshould show you your need of a Savior and point you to the cross
Speaking of the cross, and how you see it everywhere. Now don't you think, if Jesus came back, that's the last thing he would want to see?
When He returns, it will be to judge the world against the standard of His holiness. He will not be coming in peace as a friend for those who don't know him. Whether or not He cares about all the crosses everywhere will be the least of your concern. However, I have no idea why He would be offended by a cross.
jclalor 12
QuoteI have no idea why He would be offended by a cross.
It just seems a cross may not bring back the best of memories.
maadmax 0
It just seems a cross may not bring back the best of memories.
Strange that I would agree with you on something, I have never had much use for the cross icon. Now if there was such a thing as an empty tomb icon, that would be something I could really appreciate.
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QuoteYour "feelings" are not proof of god at all.
You STILL off on that "proof" idiocy?
For God's sake, man, WAKE UP!
It's embarrassing!
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteTo really confirm your belief you need evidence that can be tested and reproduced by anyone.
This is where you guys are so blatantly off-the-wall.
You just don't get it and apparently never will. Either that or just simply too self-centered to.....oh never mind.
*shaking head*
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
Well if you're gonna make that claim, you might wanna prove it...
No doubt...
Ya, and none of us get boners while sucking a big tit at that age either...we'd even walk off the edge off a cliff and plummit to our death without even knowing it...
...so what are you saying...that athiests are just a bunch of infantile morons?
...good one Babin!
Then why don't you still believe in Santa Claus?
Ya, I agree...I suppose my 20+ years of Barney n' friends education have amounted to nothing....
Quit pretending you know me...btw, did you look out your window? I bet you did....
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