popsjumper 2 #26 October 13, 2011 Quotes from the article. All indicators of criminal activity and not culture: "some believe" "almost unheard of in the country until about three years ago," "re-emerged, seemingly alongside a boom in the country's economy. " "Sacrifice business" "members of the country's new elite are paying witch doctors vast sums of money " "Child sacrifice has risen because people have become lovers of money' "people who are willing to buy these children for a price" "lobbying the government to regulate witch doctors and improve police resources" need I go on?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #27 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood example of cultural relativism. Let's see if the cultural apologists here will stay true to their ideals and defend this practice in Uganda. "Who are we to judge", indeed. 8,775 firearm homicides in the USA last year. Maybe you should worry about the beam in your own eye, John. And 50,000+ killed by a doctor's mistake.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #28 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood example of cultural relativism. Let's see if the cultural apologists here will stay true to their ideals and defend this practice in Uganda. "Who are we to judge", indeed. 8,775 firearm homicides in the USA last year. Maybe you should worry about the beam in your own eye, John. Over 1,000,000 abortions per year. Maybe you should worry too, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #29 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteAmazon was referring to Western Children. Amazon seems to me to be saying since Americans send their children to war this example of small children being abducted and killed for ritual sacrificial purpose isn't all that bad. That's pretty fucked up. The end result is the same... another generation of children sacrificed on someones ALTAR nothing compared to the generation of children sacrificed in someones WOMBYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #30 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteGood example of cultural relativism. Let's see if the cultural apologists here will stay true to their ideals and defend this practice in Uganda. "Who are we to judge", indeed. 8,775 firearm homicides in the USA last year. Maybe you should worry about the beam in your own eye, John. Over 1,000,000 abortions per year. Maybe you should worry too, It's JR who's all worked up about Uganda. Try replying to the correct person.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #31 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteMaybe you should worry about the beam in your own eye, John. QuoteHow conveniently you dismiss the things that demonstrate hypocrisy by the right as not relevant to the thread. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Funny...don't you have a crow dinner in the "bad news for dems" thread awaiting your consumption? It's getting cold... tsk, tsk, tsk...how soon one forgets.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #32 October 13, 2011 QuoteWrong. This is a case of criminal activity. There's plenty of examples of child sacrifice that was an integral part of the culture, of course, how about that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #33 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood example of cultural relativism. Wrong. This is a case of criminal activity. Yeah, I'm highly confused by claims that anyone would support this on grounds of cultural relativism. This isn't some kid in a remote pacific island tribe hiking up a volcano and jumping into the lava because the tribe has long believed this will keep it from errupting violently and destroying the village. This is people getting paid to snag kids off the street and cut their balls and heads off. The only thing they have in common is that people are superstitious morons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #34 October 13, 2011 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #35 October 13, 2011 Not just in Uganda, it happens in various countries across Africa. It also follows African communities as they emigrate. A few years ago the decapitated body of a African child was found in the River Thames in London.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #36 October 13, 2011 Quote There are plenty around here that can have with pleasure.... I'll even pay the air fare Hi Mate, Not sure I understood your post but are you saying that if I want you'll pay for a airfare to Uganda? All I have to do to collect is say I agree? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #37 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote There are plenty around here that can have with pleasure.... I'll even pay the air fare Hi Mate, Not sure I understood your post but are you saying that if I want you'll pay for a airfare to Uganda? All I have to do to collect is say I agree? It's a one way ticket ... but you're no kid sir (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #38 October 13, 2011 Quote "Child sacrifice has risen because people have become lovers of money' 'Love of money is the root of all evil'. Of course it was stated in the Bible and as rational people of the 21st Century we should (according to many around here) disregard anything written in the Bible and write it off as superstition and outdated mumbo jumbo. Except those same people fail to realise that although our technology has moved on rapidly from 2000 years ago the nature of man has not changed at all. That is why the holy text is still relevant today because man is still the same violent ape that he was 2000 years ago. For those who doubt this look no further than this story from Uganda (among others).When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #39 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote There are plenty around here that can have with pleasure.... I'll even pay the air fare Hi Mate, Not sure I understood your post but are you saying that if I want you'll pay for a airfare to Uganda? All I have to do to collect is say I agree? It's a one way ticket ... but you're no kid sir Bitch Well thats a shame, I always fancied going to see the gorillas.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #40 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteWrong. This is a case of criminal activity. There's plenty of examples of child sacrifice that was an integral part of the culture, of course, how about that? Got examples?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #41 October 13, 2011 QuoteNot just in Uganda, it happens in various countries across Africa. It also follows African communities as they emigrate. A few years ago the decapitated body of a African child was found in the River Thames in London. Eight bodies were found shot dead in a California hair dressing salon yesterday. Must be a cultural thing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #42 October 13, 2011 Quote Got examples? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice Yes, I'm lazy, and no I won't accept the claim that Wikipedia is unreliable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAmazon was referring to Western Children. Amazon seems to me to be saying since Americans send their children to war this example of small children being abducted and killed for ritual sacrificial purpose isn't all that bad. That's pretty fucked up. The end result is the same... another generation of children sacrificed on someones ALTAR nothing compared to the generation of children sacrificed in someones WOMB Do you realize how many BILLIONS of "potential" children do not come to be every year. The fact is..a hell of a lot of the "children" yall blither on about would not have been viable. That is a FAR cry from human beings who have been born... loved... raised to young adulthood ... and then sacrificed on your culture of death and war. I always found it quite interesting that the same people who ALWAYS blither on and on and on about a cell mass that may or may not become one of those human children, seems to have no problem with sending their children( if they are of the lower classes of course) to die for some obscene corporate profit. But yet those people wrap it up in a well marketed and the more palatable terms of Mom, Apple Pie.. and Patriotism that your RIGHT WING culture of death worships. Then the same people also go on to demand VENGEANCE.. couched in what they mistakenly call justice.... to sacrifice those they are led to believe are evil doers, by a very corrupt criminal justice system and LEO community that once their minds are made up.. they can clear their books for political gain by a system of prosecutorial misconduct on many many people who can not afford to protect themselves from the weight of the government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #44 October 13, 2011 Blah blah blah...then you blither on about how every american child should be forced into millitary service...It is your culture of death and war...stop projecting your right wing patriotism onto me. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #45 October 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood example of cultural relativism. Wrong. This is a case of criminal activity. Quote "Who are we to judge", indeed. You've GOT to be the single most thick-headed person posting here. You STILL don't get it. Fucking amazing.... "Culture" doesn't have to be only legal activity. Just think of the term "drug culture" - that doesn't refer to people who take a daily aspirin. There are plenty of illegal activities which have developed into a culture, like the killing of children in Uganda. You also seem to imply that anything allowed by law, is okay. And conversely, the only things that aren't morally okay, are those things which are illegal under the law. In other words, you don't seem to have any moral compass of your own; you just judge right and wrong based upon what some lawmakers or dictators say is right and wrong. So if a country wants to execute a preacher for speaking about christianity, or flog an actress for speaking out against the government, that's okay with you, because that's their law. I, on the other hand, recognize that laws are made by people, and that people are sometimes flawed. History is full of abuses that were done under the color of the law. Human rights should be better than that, and executing preachers and flogging actresses is wrong, regardless of what laws exist to support it. This stance of yours also seems to imply that they only reason to object to these child murders in Uganda is because it's against the law there. The converse of that is that if this cultural tradition was enshrined in law as legal, then you would have no objection to it. And that's a good example of why simply using the law as your moral guideline is wrong. Some laws are just plain wrong, and you should have the fortitude to recognize when that happens, and not be afraid to speak out against them. Seven people in the poll have voted that these child murders are okay with them. This message is directed towards every one of them also. And lastly, when you see gross personal insults appearing before your eyes, emanating from your own fingertips on the keyboard, you should lean back in your chair, take a deep breath, and try something else. You've received your "one warning" twice in the last couple of days for such behavior. Most people are banned on the second offense. You've gotten away with it twice. But I suggest for your own good that you should refrain from further activity like that. It only makes yourself look bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 October 13, 2011 Quote Quote Got examples? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice Yes, I'm lazy, and no I won't accept the claim that Wikipedia is unreliable. Oh...I thought you were talking about this particular instance in the thread.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 October 13, 2011 Quote Blah blah blah...then you blither on about how every american child should be forced into millitary service...It is your culture of death and war...stop projecting your right wing patriotism onto me. The point that so many of the morons around here... and in our country in general seem to miss with the big fucking WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH flying right betwixt their ears is this: Make sure EVERYONE has some skin in the game.... if all those Young Republicans who are pro war and the scions of the rich and powerful actually had to serve and possibly lay down their lives instead of just pretending that they would.. you would see a VERY fast backpeddling on our role of WORLD COP. Lets get the rest of the world back into the game.. let them send their kids off for the next couple generations... they seem to have forggoten what its like since WWII where Europe and Asia got into some hard core population control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 October 13, 2011 Well, John...I've made my position very clear to you on these types of issues. I've also acknowledged the validity of the anger you show towards these types of happenings. You still do not get it. I would prefer if you would just ignore my posts in the future as you have not shown yourself to be capable of discussing and only want to be angry and verbally violent. It gets very tiresome. I'm beginning to think that you are purposely ignoring my publicly-posted stance so that you can continue the false accusations and the off-track mind reading that you're doing. As to what pleasure you're getting out of that, I have no clue. As far as the "gross personal insults"....let's compare my public comments against your hide-behind-the-PM diatribes. If you're too embarrassed to say it publicly, why say it at all? And then whine to somebody about it? No need to pretend all-innocent here.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #49 October 13, 2011 QuoteThanks. Duh...why didn't I think of Google? Assuming you're not being sarcastic here, I've to admit I learned that it was less common then I thought it would be, however, you need only one culture that had an integrated practice of child sacrifice to make the point of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #50 October 13, 2011 QuoteWell, John...I've made my position very clear to you on these types of issues. I've also acknowledged the validity of the anger you show towards these types of happenings. You still do not get it. I would prefer if you would just ignore my posts in the future as you have not shown yourself to be capable of discussing and only want to be angry and verbally violent. It gets very tiresome. I'm beginning to think that you are purposely ignoring my publicly-posted stance so that you can continue the false accusations and the off-track mind reading that you're doing. As to what pleasure you're getting out of that, I have no clue. As far as the "gross personal insults"....let's compare my public comments against your hide-behind-the-PM diatribes. If you're too embarrassed to say it publicly, why say it at all? And then whine to somebody about it? No need to pretend all-innocent here. Re: "Not capable of discussing". My posts here contradict your perception. Just three messages back, I wrote five full paragraphs. That's "discussion". There's nothing angry or "verbally violent" in those messages. Your perception doesn't match reality, which is on display here for all to see. The readers can judge for themselves. Re: "false accusations & mind reading". If I've misunderstood your position, then it's up to you to state your position more clearly to clarify things. Hurling personal insults is not clarification. Re: "hide-behind-the-PM diatribes" I've sent you only ONE personal message, consisting of just three words. Once again, reality does not match the perception that you are trying to portray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites