mnealtx 0 #26 October 12, 2011 QuoteI didn't bother to read the article, but I think you're wrong about this. No sir... "The FCPA’s Antibribery provisions generally prohibit U.S. companies and citizens, foreign companies listed on a U.S. stock exchange, or any person acting while in the United States from corruptly paying or offering to pay" QuoteI'm no expert, but at my company we have to take annual training regarding international sales. This may be because we are in the arms business, so I'm not sure if the rules are the same for general goods. However, it is illegal for us to sell goods to prohibited countries, regardless of what subsidiary's name appears on the paper. In fact, it is illegal for us to sell goods to an allowed country, if we have reason to believe the real end user is going to be a prohibited country. In other words, the purpose of the law is to keep our goods out of the hands of Iran, et al. Using foreign subsidiaries or intermediaries does not get you around the law. I'm not sure how the trade ban with Iran is set up, but I wouldn't be surprized to learn it had similar provisions. I believe you're thinking of ITAR - I take the same training every year.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #27 October 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote What do they call giving aid and comfort to the enemy again? Are they the enemy (yet)? You might be mixing up the talking points again. Still waiting on the bit about secret iran sales, too. How many Americans have died as a direct result of the products of that methanol and petrochemical plant. How many Americans died in Beruit with the explosives supplied by Iran??? But its what I expect from the people that brought us Iran-Contra... and all the fine business dealings with our sworn enemies ever since... as long as the profit margin is good... and the checks to the law fiorms keep coming. Those with variable morality and ethics seem to have no problem with doing business with terrotists.... yet still attempt to wrap themselves in the American flag and blither on and on about patriotism. This forum is full of them. Your mad that these guys made money from Iran? I would be mad if Iran made money from them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You appear to be obsessed with Koch. It's the new "in" thing to hate. I didn't hear a peep about the Koch brothers before the media drew attention to them. How often do you hear about things before someone or something draws attention to them? If they're doing something illegal, they should be held accountable. If they're not, then people should be held liable for their libel. Quote If the rich-haters want to be truly proactive they should seek out small/mid-sized business owners that have enormous potential to grow into large successful corporations, and squash them now! As far as "rich-haters", if everyone stops buying their products then they won't be rich ... DUDE... if you were paying attention... the Brothers have been the sleaziest of corporate abuses of law and ethics for at the very least.. 20 years. Do try to keep up.Read the article. I did read the article and stated that if you (or anyone else) can prove they're doing something illegal than they should be held accountable. Try to get past the name of the poster and read the content of the post ... I guess you missed the part where they have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in the past... for their... uh... transgressions.. they are some of the largest corporate crooks out there... but stillllllllllll all their rabid supporters do seem to like their cheeks spread wide with a lot of Koch up their.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzw0Mg8zYo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #29 October 12, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote What do they call giving aid and comfort to the enemy again? Are they the enemy (yet)? You might be mixing up the talking points again. Still waiting on the bit about secret iran sales, too. How many Americans have died as a direct result of the products of that methanol and petrochemical plant. How many Americans died in Beruit with the explosives supplied by Iran??? But its what I expect from the people that brought us Iran-Contra... and all the fine business dealings with our sworn enemies ever since... as long as the profit margin is good... and the checks to the law fiorms keep coming. Those with variable morality and ethics seem to have no problem with doing business with terrotists.... yet still attempt to wrap themselves in the American flag and blither on and on about patriotism. This forum is full of them. Your mad that these guys made money from Iran? I would be mad if Iran made money from them. Do you know what a petro-chemical plant produces.. and what is done with it... nope.. the Iranians made no money from this what so ever... I thought you touted your business sense...... hmmmmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #30 October 12, 2011 QuoteI guess you missed the part where they have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in the past... for their... uh... transgressions.. they are some of the largest corporate crooks out there... but stillllllllllll all their rabid supporters do seem to like their cheeks spread wide with a lot of Koch up their.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzw0Mg8zYo I didn't miss it. I don't work in law enforcement, what can I do besides not purchasing their products?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 October 12, 2011 Quote I guess you missed the part where they have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in the past... for their... uh... transgressions. You mean where they self-identified problems to the Feds, then solved them and volunteered to pay a fine? Damn, that's crooked all right. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 October 12, 2011 QuoteQuoteI guess you missed the part where they have paid hundreds of millions of dollars in the past... for their... uh... transgressions.. they are some of the largest corporate crooks out there... but stillllllllllll all their rabid supporters do seem to like their cheeks spread wide with a lot of Koch up their.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTzw0Mg8zYo I didn't miss it. I don't work in law enforcement, what can I do besides not purchasing their products? That is a good start... I made sure they are not in any of my investements too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
