Why won't they hire?

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I could, but I need to be able to eat & stuff. I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account. And a mortgage payment due at the beginning of next month.

I cannot for the life of me understand why my applications are not getting through. I have been scouring the web, going to job fairs and networking events, handing out cards & CVs, and nothing is working.

I have seen many more job openings advertised in the last month then I ever have before, so maybe that is a good sign that things are beginning to turn around. I just wish someone would respond to my applications before the bank forecloses on my house.

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So, you think that a possible solution is out of the political realm?? And the almighty market forces alone will fix it??

GET REAL! GET LOST!

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You didn't vote Republican by any chance ?

To politicize the unemployed is complete and utter bullshit. In case you have not been paying attention there is crap on both sides of the political fence. Neither side can claim the high ground right now.

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I could, but I need to be able to eat & stuff. I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account. And a mortgage payment due at the beginning of next month.

I cannot for the life of me understand why my applications are not getting through. I have been scouring the web, going to job fairs and networking events, handing out cards & CVs, and nothing is working.

I have seen many more job openings advertised in the last month then I ever have before, so maybe that is a good sign that things are beginning to turn around. I just wish someone would respond to my applications before the bank forecloses on my house.

The republicans are trying to scale back corporate taxes and epa regulations, 2 things that would make us more competetive without lowering wages and that would greatly increase job growth.

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I could, but I need to be able to eat & stuff. I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account. And a mortgage payment due at the beginning of next month.
I cannot for the life of me understand why my applications are not getting through. I have been scouring the web, going to job fairs and networking events, handing out cards & CVs, and nothing is working.
I have seen many more job openings advertised in the last month then I ever have before, so maybe that is a good sign that things are beginning to turn around. I just wish someone would respond to my applications before the bank forecloses on my house.

The republicans are trying to scale back corporate taxes and epa regulations, 2 things that would make us more competetive without lowering wages and that would greatly increase job growth.

Yes, because scaling back on EPA regulations will help create environmental disaster clean up jobs and help out in medical and mortuary industries.

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>The republicans are trying to scale back corporate taxes and epa regulations

Donora, PA wasn't very competitive in 1948.

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I could, but I need to be able to eat & stuff. I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account. And a mortgage payment due at the beginning of next month.
I cannot for the life of me understand why my applications are not getting through. I have been scouring the web, going to job fairs and networking events, handing out cards & CVs, and nothing is working.
I have seen many more job openings advertised in the last month then I ever have before, so maybe that is a good sign that things are beginning to turn around. I just wish someone would respond to my applications before the bank forecloses on my house.

The republicans are trying to scale back corporate taxes and epa regulations, 2 things that would make us more competetive without lowering wages and that would greatly increase job growth.

Yes, because scaling back on EPA regulations will help create environmental disaster clean up jobs and help out in medical and mortuary industries.

I didn't say eliminate, just scale back. is the left to stupid to understand that as companies go overseas that epa regulations are not being followed and the same products we used to produce here are being brought here while being made under little or no regulation overseas.? we have advanced our regulations beyond what our economy can handle and thus caused a worsening of world wide polutants by importing these products to purchase here.

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that as companies go overseas that epa regulations are not being followed and the same products we used to produce here are being brought here while being made under little or no regulation overseas.?

If one has little regard for human life, one can reap enormous profits.

That said, I don't think the solution is to lower the standards in the US to those in third world countries.

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that as companies go overseas that epa regulations are not being followed and the same products we used to produce here are being brought here while being made under little or no regulation overseas.?

If one has little regard for human life, one can reap enormous profits.

That said, I don't think the solution is to lower the standards in the US to those in third world countries.

Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

If a little regulation is good, then more is better.
and if more is better, then extremely more is better - there are agencies that justify their existence this way

then if you back off just a little bit - the world will end and grampa will literally dissolve just by standing in open air without his full body condom.

do you want that?!!

HUH??!!

do you hate grampa THAT MUCH??? do you love corporate profits and hate grampa that much????!!!

I can't even look at you right now

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For that matter, until we do drop regulations a LOT, then my full body enviro-condom business is just making a tiny profit from paranoid granola crunchers and some OSHA executives.


It could make so much more.......

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that as companies go overseas that epa regulations are not being followed and the same products we used to produce here are being brought here while being made under little or no regulation overseas.?

If one has little regard for human life, one can reap enormous profits.

That said, I don't think the solution is to lower the standards in the US to those in third world countries.

Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

What you fail to recognize is the statement made by marks2065. If he's not talking about third world countries, what countries do you think he's talking about?

Please tell me exactly which countries you think have lower environmental standards than the US that also have as high a standard of living as the US?

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I don't understand long term unemployment, there are many jobs open, just not the ones that people like. I have never been unemployed for more than 3 weeks unless I wanted more time off. but then again I am not too proud to cut grass or flip burgers. I think it is a copout to recieve welfare and food stamps while I am capable of working.

That's nice that you have never had to be unemployed for more than 3 weeks...do you want a cookie?

Here's the problem to your statement of not wanting to take certain 'prideless' jobs- even educated, experienced people aren't even getting those jobs because they do not have a background for that specific job.

I just graduated with my Master's degree in biology, and am in a similar niche as the OP. My experience is solely scientific research. I've been unemployed for four months even though I've probably applied to, I don't know, every single job opening in my area that aligns with my expertise. On top of that, I just moved to a new state where I have very few contacts. I've also applied to secretarial, clerical, government and administrative positions (read: minimum wage jobs), but get the same response- I don't have the secretarial, clerical, administrative experience to even be competitive.

So, even though one is willing to take a job that underemploys them, many times they won't even be considered.

Food for thought.

And for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant.
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I don't understand long term unemployment, there are many jobs open, just not the ones that people like. I have never been unemployed for more than 3 weeks unless I wanted more time off. but then again I am not too proud to cut grass or flip burgers. I think it is a copout to recieve welfare and food stamps while I am capable of working.

That's nice that you have never had to be unemployed for more than 3 weeks...do you want a cookie?

Here's the problem to your statement of not wanting to take certain 'prideless' jobs- even educated, experienced people aren't even getting those jobs because they do not have a background for that specific job.

I just graduated with my Master's degree in biology, and am in a similar niche as the OP. My experience is solely scientific research. I've been unemployed for four months even though I've probably applied to, I don't know, every single job opening in my area that aligns with my expertise. On top of that, I just moved to a new state where I have very few contacts. I've also applied to secretarial, clerical, government and administrative positions (read: minimum wage jobs), but get the same response- I don't have the secretarial, clerical, administrative experience to even be competitive.

So, even though one is willing to take a job that underemploys them, many times they won't even be considered.

Food for thought.

sorry but I don't feel sorry for someone that limits their opertunities. cut grass, wait tables, learn to pack at the dz. there are jobs, maybe ones you don't like but there are jobs.

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Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

If a little regulation is good, then more is better.
and if more is better, then extremely more is better - there are agencies that justify their existence this way

then if you back off just a little bit - the world will end and grampa will literally dissolve just by standing in open air without his full body condom.

do you want that?!!

HUH??!!

do you hate grampa THAT MUCH??? do you love corporate profits and hate grampa that much????!!!

I can't even look at you right now

what you are not understanding is that it is better to have less regulation and produce the products here than it is to have more regulations and not produce the products here. If you are really concerned about grandpa you need to understand that there are less emissions if you produce the product here just because you are not transporting it here much less the increase in emissions by producing it in china under china's regulations. The product will be produced no matter what you think or want, lets do it the best way possible by reducing our standards enough to make it profitable to produce it here thus causing a reduction in emissions on a global scale.

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That's nice that you have never had to be unemployed for more than 3 weeks...do you want a cookie?

marks2065 likely has generic skills that makes transferring to new jobs easier hence why he has never had problems finding work. We should not be criticizing marks2065 if this is the case. We need to just remember that "One size does not fit all".

I have little sympathy for the people who allow themselves to get into financial trouble because they are unwilling to take any sort of work when they need money to feed themselves and put a roof over their head. But I too am in a similar predicament that SpeedRacer is in, in that I am presently out of work looking to find work in my chosen profession and so far no luck. But I suspect I am in a much better financial position at this time than SpeedRacer. I still have money that I saved for my present rainy days and have some assets that I could sell if I find my savings drying up. I am more concerned about being blacklisted in the IT world right now than I am about money hence the reason why I have been actively looking for work. I also have had more luck than SpeedRacer in that I have actually had 4 interviews since September and 3 of these 4 interviews I thought went very well. But still no job offer and while 3 of the opportunities now appear to be closed, I am holding out hope that the 4th one will materialize as I was told on the phone today by the recruiter that they are trying to find a spot for me in the organization, but you know how these things go. Unless the company is desperate for workers (not the case these days) hiring is a very slow process. I also did a telephone pre-screen interview yesterday and it remains to be seen if that will result in a 5th interview. So my prospects are not as doom and gloomy as others. However the fall IT hiring season is more than half way over and if something does not materialize in the next few weeks I can kiss off any opportunities until 2012 and by then I will be well on my way to being tainted with the attitude of "If you are not working there is something seriously wrong with you" mindset in some hiring managers minds.

People like marks2065 need not worry, I am someone who has built everything I have in life by myself, nothing was ever handed to me on a silver platter and I will seek a new career (likely at a much lower pay scale due to my age) before I go to the government to collect welfare. But people like marks2065 do need to understand that some people have specialized training and if at all possible they do want to find work in their areas of expertise.

It is real nasty catch-22 scenario these days for the unemployed who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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that as companies go overseas that epa regulations are not being followed and the same products we used to produce here are being brought here while being made under little or no regulation overseas.?

If one has little regard for human life, one can reap enormous profits.

That said, I don't think the solution is to lower the standards in the US to those in third world countries.

Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

What you fail to recognize is the statement made by marks2065.

The one in response to YOUR statement that cutting back on regs would result in environmental disasters and boom the mortuary business? That one?

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If he's not talking about third world countries, what countries do you think he's talking about?

He mentions third world countries...he does NOT say that our environmental standards should match theirs.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Nobody is saying to lower the standards to those in third world countries, however much you want to frame the discussion in that way.

If a little regulation is good, then more is better.
and if more is better, then extremely more is better - there are agencies that justify their existence this way

then if you back off just a little bit - the world will end and grampa will literally dissolve just by standing in open air without his full body condom.

do you want that?!!

HUH??!!

do you hate grampa THAT MUCH??? do you love corporate profits and hate grampa that much????!!!

I can't even look at you right now

you might want to love corporate profits a little more because without them your job could be the next one that goes overseas or the one that gets tossed because nobody can afford to pay for the things that keep you employed. 9% unemployment for about 3 yearts can easily turn into 15% for many years if Obama and the epa are not stopped.

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I don't understand long term unemployment, there are many jobs open, just not the ones that people like. I have never been unemployed for more than 3 weeks unless I wanted more time off. but then again I am not too proud to cut grass or flip burgers. I think it is a copout to recieve welfare and food stamps while I am capable of working.

That's nice that you have never had to be unemployed for more than 3 weeks...do you want a cookie?

Here's the problem to your statement of not wanting to take certain 'prideless' jobs- even educated, experienced people aren't even getting those jobs because they do not have a background for that specific job.

I just graduated with my Master's degree in biology, and am in a similar niche as the OP. My experience is solely scientific research. I've been unemployed for four months even though I've probably applied to, I don't know, every single job opening in my area that aligns with my expertise. On top of that, I just moved to a new state where I have very few contacts. I've also applied to secretarial, clerical, government and administrative positions (read: minimum wage jobs), but get the same response- I don't have the secretarial, clerical, administrative experience to even be competitive.

So, even though one is willing to take a job that underemploys them, many times they won't even be considered.

Food for thought.

sorry but I don't feel sorry for someone that limits their opertunities. cut grass, wait tables, learn to pack at the dz. there are jobs, maybe ones you don't like but there are jobs.

I never asked for your pity, and I don't want it-I'm just stating the fact that it's easy for someone like you that has a job and armchair quarterbacks by saying it's the unemployed peoples' fault that they don't have jobs. And LIMITING my opportunities?? I, like many others, am going back to school in something completely different so I have a better chance at having a career.

And for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant.
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I don't understand long term unemployment, there are many jobs open, just not the ones that people like. I have never been unemployed for more than 3 weeks unless I wanted more time off. but then again I am not too proud to cut grass or flip burgers. I think it is a copout to recieve welfare and food stamps while I am capable of working.

That's nice that you have never had to be unemployed for more than 3 weeks...do you want a cookie?

Here's the problem to your statement of not wanting to take certain 'prideless' jobs- even educated, experienced people aren't even getting those jobs because they do not have a background for that specific job.

I just graduated with my Master's degree in biology, and am in a similar niche as the OP. My experience is solely scientific research. I've been unemployed for four months even though I've probably applied to, I don't know, every single job opening in my area that aligns with my expertise. On top of that, I just moved to a new state where I have very few contacts. I've also applied to secretarial, clerical, government and administrative positions (read: minimum wage jobs), but get the same response- I don't have the secretarial, clerical, administrative experience to even be competitive.

So, even though one is willing to take a job that underemploys them, many times they won't even be considered.

Food for thought.

sorry but I don't feel sorry for someone that limits their opertunities. cut grass, wait tables, learn to pack at the dz. there are jobs, maybe ones you don't like but there are jobs.

I never asked for your pity, and I don't want it-I'm just stating the fact that it's easy for someone like you that has a job and armchair quarterbacks by saying it's the unemployed peoples' fault that they don't have jobs. And LIMITING my opportunities?? I, like many others, am going back to school in something completely different so I have a better chance at having a career.

armchair quarterback? you don't think I haven't been out of work before? like when carter and reagan were president? it took me 1 week with no experience to find a job in 1980, 1982, & 1983. jobs are out there just take one. Only when you get picky do you spend a long time on the unemployment line. I have a friend in AZ that has been displaced by illegals and by outsourcing to india but he has found a 3rd job all in the last 4 years and AZ has about a 14% unemployment rate.