hwt 0 #1 October 1, 2011 Check this out and post your thoughts... http://goldsilver.com/video/smart-meters/ I will vote for Ron Paul Thanks...he will nip this in the bud... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #2 October 1, 2011 Does it contain nano-thermite?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 1, 2011 Next thing you know they're going to try to monitor our precious bodily fluids with a Smart Water Meter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABYquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 October 3, 2011 The poster has no clue what he is talking about. The meters are designed to be in a mesh design with a range of around 1/8-1/4 mile over airwaves and are a two way communication. This is allowing for a smarter consumer for power usage and for a better generation ability so that there is less wasted power being dumped into the grid when there is not a need for it. This allows for utilities to be broken out into different pricing points in a micro transaction basis. This allows the utilities to bill you one rate during peak demand hours and another rate for times when there is a tone of excess power on the gird and power is cheap. Further the appliance in the home will allow you as the consumer to know what your consumption is at any moment so that you can schedule things like AC units, furnaces, etc to run more during cheaper time than during peak times. This saves you money as well as allowing the utilities to shape the load on the grid for their current generation abilities. You also have the ability to do things like micro generation and actually make money on things like solar since you can pump power back in during the higher rate period. http://www.google.com/powermeter/about/ Google did a really nice demo of their vision of a SmartMeter box that I got to play with at a trade show and they were able to shape power usage with the people using the box since they knew what they were consuming and how they could adjust their power usage to spend less money. This is the free market at work. Educate users and get them to change their actions if they want to, if they don't change them then they know they will be be paying higher prices. Add in all the additional benefits like being reduce or even eliminate the meter readers and the utilities are now saving money too that can be passed back to the consumer to have even lower rates. This is the concepts behind the SmartGrid. Analog devices inside a home have no ability to connect back into the meter besides showing raw power being pulled. The data coming off of one of these devices is really generic and is a far cry from what the kook in that video is trying to say. Abnormal power usage (aka grow rooms) are still detected today by the old analog grid (and via helicopters with FLIR) and would be detected under the smart grid too, but the rest of the things like being able to track a lamp... not even close. Ron Paul is not going to stop this, he has in the past voted for issues that push the smart grid since it really is about the only way with out major overhauls of the entire power grid to allow for a higher level of reliability as we move into times of increasing demand with few new baseline plants coming on in the next few years. Things like Tres Amegos will help but that is still only a partial fix by tying all the major grids into each other to do more of a national grid interconnect but that is years out and does not improve the demand side and only moves the supply part a bit.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 October 3, 2011 Quote This allows for utilities to be broken out into different pricing points in a micro transaction basis. This allows the utilities to bill you one rate during peak demand hours and another rate for times when there is a tone of excess power on the gird and power is cheap. Further the appliance in the home will allow you as the consumer to know what your consumption is at any moment so that you can schedule things like AC units, furnaces, etc to run more during cheaper time than during peak times. This saves you money as well as allowing the utilities to shape the load on the grid for their current generation abilities. There's no doubt that smart meters will lead to zone pricing for those of us who currently have a flat rate. But I highly doubt that it will actually lead to any savings for us, rather than the implementation of even high rates for peak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #6 October 3, 2011 I expect that consumers will reduce usage while producers will increase profits ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
