kallend 2,146 #26 October 1, 2011 QuoteQuoteHmmm - Hank Paulsen, wasn't he a career banker and head of Goldman Sachs before being appointed by GEORGE W. BUSH? The same Goldman Sachs that donated over a million dollars to Obama's 2008 campaign? The same Goldman Sachs that has a former lobbyist as one of "Turbotax" Tim Geithner's top aides? Are you confirming that bloodsucking bankers are corrupting the nation? As mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. BTW, I think your figure is incorrect: www.followthemoney.org/database/topcontributor.phtml?u=1130&y=0. Looks likre the GOP got the bulk of G-S's contributions.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 October 1, 2011 QuoteAs mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. But enough about Wisconsin.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #28 October 1, 2011 Quote i'm happy with that - enough research for me over a historical quote That's just as well; I don't think you'd be very happy with what you'd find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #29 October 1, 2011 QuoteQuoteAs mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. But enough about Wisconsin. I suppose that stupid comment makes you feel better about misleading us about Goldman-Sachs contributions: 1999-2011 G-S contributions Democrat 52 $158,600 25.93% Republican 113 $378,500 61.89% G-S contributions 2011-12 cycle: Candidate Amount Romney, Mitt (R) $290,750 Obama, Barack (D) $44,750 Brown, Scott P (R-MA) $38,500 Rubio, Marco (R-FL) $38,000 Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) $34,000 Now explain how Wisconsin trashed the stock markets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #30 October 1, 2011 QuoteHmmm - Hank Paulsen, wasn't he a career banker and head of Goldman Sachs before being appointed by GEORGE W. BUSH? Why yes he was a career banker, former head of Goldman Sachs prior being nominated as Treasury Secretary by GWB. What is your point? What does this have to do with the banks asking for a bail out which you are claiming? Some of the banks were in trouble, others were not. For those who did NOT need the help, they were still forced to take the bail out. Please professor, stick to the facts. We know you are lying whenever you try to tell us that the bankers demanded a bail out. Indoctrination may work on young and impressionable minds, but your indoctrination techniques will not work on people who have been around the block a few times. You know I am not happy with what was allow to happen in the financial sector which lead to the melt down in 2008. I am not a banker, nor do I support bankers. But I don't go around internet forums spewing lies about what transpired. Obama campaigned on the idea that he was going to clean things up. But has he done anything to change what goes on at Wall Street? No he has not ... nada ... nothing. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 October 1, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAs mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. But enough about Wisconsin. I suppose that stupid comment makes you feel better about misleading us about Goldman-Sachs contributions: What part of "Obama's 2008 campaign" gave you the problems, John? link Goldman Sachs $1,013,091 QuoteNow explain how Wisconsin trashed the stock markets. Sure thing - once you explain how the banking executives forced those people to take worthless loans.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #32 October 1, 2011 Quote Quote i'm happy with that - enough research for me over a historical quote That's just as well; I don't think you'd be very happy with what you'd find. what i'd find is that jefferson was a man like any other... meanwhile the banking establishment (as he put it) has certainly funded a vast overlending and expansion of 'credit' with or without the federal reserve which we all have to pay for (as he seems to have warned off).stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #33 October 1, 2011 anarchy in motion... QuoteIn comparison to the elitist structure of the banks and companies it opposes, the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it. Brian Phillips, a 25-year-old Google consultant and field journalist from Washington state, arrived in New York only a few days ago and has already become the communications director for the protest. Like many others, he gave up his former civil life to participate in the movement. "I was a community director in my home state, managing a four million dollar complex," Phillips told IPS. "I quit my job, I… hitchhiked all the way over here and I am here to stay and help these guys." Communication, both internal and external, is one of the key elements of the protests. By using websites, webcasts, tweets and live streams, Occupy Wall Street stays in touch with other movements, both national and global. "It's very, very, very important that we are connected to the internet," Phillips explained. "We need the world to see what we are doing and… to know what we are doing." "Because we are broadcasting from Occupy Wall Street, which is (the) headquarters of the revolution, we have ten other cities around the United States starting to be occupied. We have Boston, Chicago, LA, Austin, Charlotte. We have a bunch of places starting up. It's going big – and it's increasing by size faster than we've expected." Occupy Wall Street is also garnering more attention from both local and global media, thanks to the growing outrage and support from well-known figures including MIT professor Noam Chomsky and rapper Immortal Technique. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/01stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites captain_stan 0 #34 October 1, 2011 Quote which we all have to pay for What, you're an American taxpayer now? FYI, the only reason "we" have to pay for the banks' failure is that "our" elected government so decreed. Instead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks and displaying public contempt for the financiers, we should be holding Congress and our Presidents accountable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites muff528 3 #35 October 1, 2011 Quoteanarchy in motion... QuoteIn comparison to the elitist structure of the banks and companies it opposes, the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it. Brian Phillips, a 25-year-old Google consultant and field journalist from Washington state, arrived in New York only a few days ago and has already become the communications director for the protest. Like many others, he gave up his former civil life to participate in the movement. "I was a community director in my home state, managing a four million dollar complex," Phillips told IPS. "I quit my job, I… hitchhiked all the way over here and I am here to stay and help these guys." Communication, both internal and external, is one of the key elements of the protests. By using websites, webcasts, tweets and live streams, Occupy Wall Street stays in touch with other movements, both national and global. "It's very, very, very important that we are connected to the internet," Phillips explained. "We need the world to see what we are doing and… to know what we are doing." "Because we are broadcasting from Occupy Wall Street, which is (the) headquarters of the revolution, we have ten other cities around the United States starting to be occupied. We have Boston, Chicago, LA, Austin, Charlotte. We have a bunch of places starting up. It's going big – and it's increasing by size faster than we've expected." Occupy Wall Street is also garnering more attention from both local and global media, thanks to the growing outrage and support from well-known figures including MIT professor Noam Chomsky and rapper Immortal Technique. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/01 "...movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it." This looks just like the Tea Party! Well, except for the job-quitting and participation by leftist fundamentalists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #36 October 2, 2011 QuoteInstead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks... depends upon how many are doing the protesting. now that the teabaggers are spent perhaps a real 'revolt' can begin...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #37 October 2, 2011 QuotePart 2 After this event there was contention for a long time between the upper classes and the populace. Not only was the constitution at this time oligarchical in every respect, but the poorer classes, men, women, and children, were the serfs of the rich. They were known as Pelatae and also as Hectemori, because they cultivated the lands of the rich at the rent thus indicated. The whole country was in the hands of a few persons, and if the tenants failed to pay their rent they were liable to be haled into slavery, and their children with them. All loans secured upon the debtor's person, a custom which prevailed until the time of Solon, who was the first to appear as the champion of the people. But the hardest and bitterest part of the constitution in the eyes of the masses was their state of serfdom. Not but what they were also discontented with every other feature of their lot; for, to speak generally, they had no part nor share in anything. http://cclce.org/files/ResourceCD/documents/documents_text_only/World_text_only/Aristotle%20The%20Athenian%20Constitution.txtstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #38 October 3, 2011 QuoteI'm just not sure what the Occupy Wall Street protest is supposed to accomplish. Looks like a lot of people just venting their outrage at their lot in life. Yes, this has been written about over the weekend: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/10/01/national/a094332D57.DTL "It all has the feel of a classic street protest with one exception: It's unclear exactly what the demonstrators want." Also counts the size of the protest at a whopping "dozens." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #39 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAs mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. But enough about Wisconsin. I suppose that stupid comment makes you feel better about misleading us about Goldman-Sachs contributions: What part of "Obama's 2008 campaign" gave you the problems, John? link Goldman Sachs $1,013,091 . From your own link: The organizations themselves did not donate I gave you the correct data for donations by G-S over the past decade. Overwhelmingly to the GOP.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #40 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteHmmm - Hank Paulsen, wasn't he a career banker and head of Goldman Sachs before being appointed by GEORGE W. BUSH? Why yes he was a career banker, former head of Goldman Sachs prior being nominated as Treasury Secretary by GWB. What is your point? What does this have to do with the banks asking for a bail out which you are claiming? Some of the banks were in trouble, others were not. For those who did NOT need the help, they were still forced to take the bail out. Blah blah... You know I am not happy with what was allow to happen in the financial sector which lead to the melt down in 2008. I am not a banker, nor do I support bankers. But I don't go around internet forums spewing lies about what transpired. Obama campaigned on the idea that he was going to clean things up. But has he done anything to change what goes on at Wall Street? No he has not ... nada ... nothing. Ha ha very funny - a banker's friend and staunch GOP guy "forces" failing banks, AIG, etc. to accept money. I wonder how Obama is supposed to "clean things up" all the time the house GOP refuses to act on the financial reform bill.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #41 October 3, 2011 I may be a fiscal conservative who thinks Obama was never qualified to be president and only got the job because Hollywood and the mainstream media marketed him to be something that he is not. But don't go trying to paint me as something I am not. I am on record slamming both the Elephants as well as the Donkeys. The GOP has definitely had me saying WTF on more than one occasion over the years. But you can resume your "Democrats have never done anything wrong" partisan rhetoric if you want. I have no proof that you do indeed indoctrinate young and impressionable minds into your Leftist ideology because I have never set foot in your classroom. But there is no secret that your teaching peers do engage in this indoctrination and therefore you are guilty through association. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSg2oRU6Bs PS: the banks never asked for a bail out, at least not the ones who were not in trouble. For you to continue to claim that the banks asked for a bailout just shows the rest of us not to take anything you say here all that serious. Come back when you have shed your partisan ways. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #42 October 3, 2011 the banks demanded a bailout - or they would crash the rest of the system...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #43 October 3, 2011 Quotethe banks demanded a bailout Please show what banks and when they demanded a bailout. And not a link to CDIf you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,111 #44 October 3, 2011 >the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Agreed. And partially as a result, will be ignored. There was a recent video showing Wall Street types on a balcony overlooking the protests drinking champagne and pointing at the excellent entertainment. Have a couple more conflicts with police and they'll be able to start selling tickets. Want to make a difference? Stop using banks until they make the changes you want. But of course that would actually require people to give up something they want, so that will never happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #45 October 3, 2011 QuoteFrom your own link: Also from my own link: Obama's 2008 campaign QuoteI gave you the correct data for donations by G-S over the past decade. Unattributed numbers, yes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites captain_stan 0 #46 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteInstead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks... perhaps a real 'revolt' can begin... ...he said from the safety of a far-away land. Although the OWSies are indeed revolting, they are far from being revolutionaries. Your protestors are too well-dressed and too well-fed for that. Real revolutionaries carry guns, not signs. These pseudo revolutionaries have no apparent plan other than to publicly whine. They have no political influence, no concrete plan for change, and no teeth. Did you not hear them squeal in submission when they were pepper-sprayed? Did you not see them go along helplessly when arrested? Quote now that the teabaggers are spent More name-calling? Unlike your OWSies, the TEA party has the organization to influence elections and the discipline to do so without massive public disruption and mass arrests. Of course they are criticized bitterly for participating in democracy so effectively. Remind me to bump this thread in 6 month and we'll see how your Occupy-Wall-Street "revolt" is coming along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #47 October 3, 2011 > I am having a tough time too right now, trying to find a job/& running out of money, but I just keep trying. I don't see how marching around and shaking my fist at "the System" is going to get anything done. WOW, sounds like a Conservative position Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #48 October 3, 2011 QuoteSince you're suddenly such a fan of Jefferson, here's a few more of his quotes: "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " Awesome quotes: I shall put those two to memory least I bump into some young skull of mush who has nothing better to do than spout non-sence. 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dreamdancer 0 #32 October 1, 2011 Quote Quote i'm happy with that - enough research for me over a historical quote That's just as well; I don't think you'd be very happy with what you'd find. what i'd find is that jefferson was a man like any other... meanwhile the banking establishment (as he put it) has certainly funded a vast overlending and expansion of 'credit' with or without the federal reserve which we all have to pay for (as he seems to have warned off).stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #33 October 1, 2011 anarchy in motion... QuoteIn comparison to the elitist structure of the banks and companies it opposes, the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it. Brian Phillips, a 25-year-old Google consultant and field journalist from Washington state, arrived in New York only a few days ago and has already become the communications director for the protest. Like many others, he gave up his former civil life to participate in the movement. "I was a community director in my home state, managing a four million dollar complex," Phillips told IPS. "I quit my job, I… hitchhiked all the way over here and I am here to stay and help these guys." Communication, both internal and external, is one of the key elements of the protests. By using websites, webcasts, tweets and live streams, Occupy Wall Street stays in touch with other movements, both national and global. "It's very, very, very important that we are connected to the internet," Phillips explained. "We need the world to see what we are doing and… to know what we are doing." "Because we are broadcasting from Occupy Wall Street, which is (the) headquarters of the revolution, we have ten other cities around the United States starting to be occupied. We have Boston, Chicago, LA, Austin, Charlotte. We have a bunch of places starting up. It's going big – and it's increasing by size faster than we've expected." Occupy Wall Street is also garnering more attention from both local and global media, thanks to the growing outrage and support from well-known figures including MIT professor Noam Chomsky and rapper Immortal Technique. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/01stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #34 October 1, 2011 Quote which we all have to pay for What, you're an American taxpayer now? FYI, the only reason "we" have to pay for the banks' failure is that "our" elected government so decreed. Instead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks and displaying public contempt for the financiers, we should be holding Congress and our Presidents accountable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #35 October 1, 2011 Quoteanarchy in motion... QuoteIn comparison to the elitist structure of the banks and companies it opposes, the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it. Brian Phillips, a 25-year-old Google consultant and field journalist from Washington state, arrived in New York only a few days ago and has already become the communications director for the protest. Like many others, he gave up his former civil life to participate in the movement. "I was a community director in my home state, managing a four million dollar complex," Phillips told IPS. "I quit my job, I… hitchhiked all the way over here and I am here to stay and help these guys." Communication, both internal and external, is one of the key elements of the protests. By using websites, webcasts, tweets and live streams, Occupy Wall Street stays in touch with other movements, both national and global. "It's very, very, very important that we are connected to the internet," Phillips explained. "We need the world to see what we are doing and… to know what we are doing." "Because we are broadcasting from Occupy Wall Street, which is (the) headquarters of the revolution, we have ten other cities around the United States starting to be occupied. We have Boston, Chicago, LA, Austin, Charlotte. We have a bunch of places starting up. It's going big – and it's increasing by size faster than we've expected." Occupy Wall Street is also garnering more attention from both local and global media, thanks to the growing outrage and support from well-known figures including MIT professor Noam Chomsky and rapper Immortal Technique. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/01 "...movement does not have a hierarchy. Everyone can speak up or participate in discussions, and so everyone can take responsibility – or refuse it." This looks just like the Tea Party! Well, except for the job-quitting and participation by leftist fundamentalists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #36 October 2, 2011 QuoteInstead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks... depends upon how many are doing the protesting. now that the teabaggers are spent perhaps a real 'revolt' can begin...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #37 October 2, 2011 QuotePart 2 After this event there was contention for a long time between the upper classes and the populace. Not only was the constitution at this time oligarchical in every respect, but the poorer classes, men, women, and children, were the serfs of the rich. They were known as Pelatae and also as Hectemori, because they cultivated the lands of the rich at the rent thus indicated. The whole country was in the hands of a few persons, and if the tenants failed to pay their rent they were liable to be haled into slavery, and their children with them. All loans secured upon the debtor's person, a custom which prevailed until the time of Solon, who was the first to appear as the champion of the people. But the hardest and bitterest part of the constitution in the eyes of the masses was their state of serfdom. Not but what they were also discontented with every other feature of their lot; for, to speak generally, they had no part nor share in anything. http://cclce.org/files/ResourceCD/documents/documents_text_only/World_text_only/Aristotle%20The%20Athenian%20Constitution.txtstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #38 October 3, 2011 QuoteI'm just not sure what the Occupy Wall Street protest is supposed to accomplish. Looks like a lot of people just venting their outrage at their lot in life. Yes, this has been written about over the weekend: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/10/01/national/a094332D57.DTL "It all has the feel of a classic street protest with one exception: It's unclear exactly what the demonstrators want." Also counts the size of the protest at a whopping "dozens." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #39 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAs mentioned previously, it wasn't teachers and other public sector employees who trashed the economy. And many of those that did trash it came away with big bonuses. But enough about Wisconsin. I suppose that stupid comment makes you feel better about misleading us about Goldman-Sachs contributions: What part of "Obama's 2008 campaign" gave you the problems, John? link Goldman Sachs $1,013,091 . From your own link: The organizations themselves did not donate I gave you the correct data for donations by G-S over the past decade. Overwhelmingly to the GOP.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #40 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteHmmm - Hank Paulsen, wasn't he a career banker and head of Goldman Sachs before being appointed by GEORGE W. BUSH? Why yes he was a career banker, former head of Goldman Sachs prior being nominated as Treasury Secretary by GWB. What is your point? What does this have to do with the banks asking for a bail out which you are claiming? Some of the banks were in trouble, others were not. For those who did NOT need the help, they were still forced to take the bail out. Blah blah... You know I am not happy with what was allow to happen in the financial sector which lead to the melt down in 2008. I am not a banker, nor do I support bankers. But I don't go around internet forums spewing lies about what transpired. Obama campaigned on the idea that he was going to clean things up. But has he done anything to change what goes on at Wall Street? No he has not ... nada ... nothing. Ha ha very funny - a banker's friend and staunch GOP guy "forces" failing banks, AIG, etc. to accept money. I wonder how Obama is supposed to "clean things up" all the time the house GOP refuses to act on the financial reform bill.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #41 October 3, 2011 I may be a fiscal conservative who thinks Obama was never qualified to be president and only got the job because Hollywood and the mainstream media marketed him to be something that he is not. But don't go trying to paint me as something I am not. I am on record slamming both the Elephants as well as the Donkeys. The GOP has definitely had me saying WTF on more than one occasion over the years. But you can resume your "Democrats have never done anything wrong" partisan rhetoric if you want. I have no proof that you do indeed indoctrinate young and impressionable minds into your Leftist ideology because I have never set foot in your classroom. But there is no secret that your teaching peers do engage in this indoctrination and therefore you are guilty through association. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSg2oRU6Bs PS: the banks never asked for a bail out, at least not the ones who were not in trouble. For you to continue to claim that the banks asked for a bailout just shows the rest of us not to take anything you say here all that serious. Come back when you have shed your partisan ways. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #42 October 3, 2011 the banks demanded a bailout - or they would crash the rest of the system...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #43 October 3, 2011 Quotethe banks demanded a bailout Please show what banks and when they demanded a bailout. And not a link to CDIf you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,111 #44 October 3, 2011 >the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Agreed. And partially as a result, will be ignored. There was a recent video showing Wall Street types on a balcony overlooking the protests drinking champagne and pointing at the excellent entertainment. Have a couple more conflicts with police and they'll be able to start selling tickets. Want to make a difference? Stop using banks until they make the changes you want. But of course that would actually require people to give up something they want, so that will never happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #45 October 3, 2011 QuoteFrom your own link: Also from my own link: Obama's 2008 campaign QuoteI gave you the correct data for donations by G-S over the past decade. Unattributed numbers, yes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites captain_stan 0 #46 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteInstead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks... perhaps a real 'revolt' can begin... ...he said from the safety of a far-away land. Although the OWSies are indeed revolting, they are far from being revolutionaries. Your protestors are too well-dressed and too well-fed for that. Real revolutionaries carry guns, not signs. These pseudo revolutionaries have no apparent plan other than to publicly whine. They have no political influence, no concrete plan for change, and no teeth. Did you not hear them squeal in submission when they were pepper-sprayed? Did you not see them go along helplessly when arrested? Quote now that the teabaggers are spent More name-calling? Unlike your OWSies, the TEA party has the organization to influence elections and the discipline to do so without massive public disruption and mass arrests. Of course they are criticized bitterly for participating in democracy so effectively. Remind me to bump this thread in 6 month and we'll see how your Occupy-Wall-Street "revolt" is coming along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #47 October 3, 2011 > I am having a tough time too right now, trying to find a job/& running out of money, but I just keep trying. I don't see how marching around and shaking my fist at "the System" is going to get anything done. WOW, sounds like a Conservative position Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #48 October 3, 2011 QuoteSince you're suddenly such a fan of Jefferson, here's a few more of his quotes: "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " Awesome quotes: I shall put those two to memory least I bump into some young skull of mush who has nothing better to do than spout non-sence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #49 October 3, 2011 they were probably wondering why the protesters couldn't just eat cake...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,111 #50 October 3, 2011 >WOW, sounds like a Conservative position The conservative position would be to give up, get on the Internet and blame Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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kallend 2,146 #40 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteHmmm - Hank Paulsen, wasn't he a career banker and head of Goldman Sachs before being appointed by GEORGE W. BUSH? Why yes he was a career banker, former head of Goldman Sachs prior being nominated as Treasury Secretary by GWB. What is your point? What does this have to do with the banks asking for a bail out which you are claiming? Some of the banks were in trouble, others were not. For those who did NOT need the help, they were still forced to take the bail out. Blah blah... You know I am not happy with what was allow to happen in the financial sector which lead to the melt down in 2008. I am not a banker, nor do I support bankers. But I don't go around internet forums spewing lies about what transpired. Obama campaigned on the idea that he was going to clean things up. But has he done anything to change what goes on at Wall Street? No he has not ... nada ... nothing. Ha ha very funny - a banker's friend and staunch GOP guy "forces" failing banks, AIG, etc. to accept money. I wonder how Obama is supposed to "clean things up" all the time the house GOP refuses to act on the financial reform bill.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #41 October 3, 2011 I may be a fiscal conservative who thinks Obama was never qualified to be president and only got the job because Hollywood and the mainstream media marketed him to be something that he is not. But don't go trying to paint me as something I am not. I am on record slamming both the Elephants as well as the Donkeys. The GOP has definitely had me saying WTF on more than one occasion over the years. But you can resume your "Democrats have never done anything wrong" partisan rhetoric if you want. I have no proof that you do indeed indoctrinate young and impressionable minds into your Leftist ideology because I have never set foot in your classroom. But there is no secret that your teaching peers do engage in this indoctrination and therefore you are guilty through association. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSg2oRU6Bs PS: the banks never asked for a bail out, at least not the ones who were not in trouble. For you to continue to claim that the banks asked for a bailout just shows the rest of us not to take anything you say here all that serious. Come back when you have shed your partisan ways. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #42 October 3, 2011 the banks demanded a bailout - or they would crash the rest of the system...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #43 October 3, 2011 Quotethe banks demanded a bailout Please show what banks and when they demanded a bailout. And not a link to CDIf you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #44 October 3, 2011 >the "Occupy Wall Street" movement does not have a hierarchy. Agreed. And partially as a result, will be ignored. There was a recent video showing Wall Street types on a balcony overlooking the protests drinking champagne and pointing at the excellent entertainment. Have a couple more conflicts with police and they'll be able to start selling tickets. Want to make a difference? Stop using banks until they make the changes you want. But of course that would actually require people to give up something they want, so that will never happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #45 October 3, 2011 QuoteFrom your own link: Also from my own link: Obama's 2008 campaign QuoteI gave you the correct data for donations by G-S over the past decade. Unattributed numbers, yes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #46 October 3, 2011 QuoteQuoteInstead of raising a pointless clamor in the streets outside of banks... perhaps a real 'revolt' can begin... ...he said from the safety of a far-away land. Although the OWSies are indeed revolting, they are far from being revolutionaries. Your protestors are too well-dressed and too well-fed for that. Real revolutionaries carry guns, not signs. These pseudo revolutionaries have no apparent plan other than to publicly whine. They have no political influence, no concrete plan for change, and no teeth. Did you not hear them squeal in submission when they were pepper-sprayed? Did you not see them go along helplessly when arrested? Quote now that the teabaggers are spent More name-calling? Unlike your OWSies, the TEA party has the organization to influence elections and the discipline to do so without massive public disruption and mass arrests. Of course they are criticized bitterly for participating in democracy so effectively. Remind me to bump this thread in 6 month and we'll see how your Occupy-Wall-Street "revolt" is coming along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #47 October 3, 2011 > I am having a tough time too right now, trying to find a job/& running out of money, but I just keep trying. I don't see how marching around and shaking my fist at "the System" is going to get anything done. WOW, sounds like a Conservative position Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #48 October 3, 2011 QuoteSince you're suddenly such a fan of Jefferson, here's a few more of his quotes: "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " Awesome quotes: I shall put those two to memory least I bump into some young skull of mush who has nothing better to do than spout non-sence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #49 October 3, 2011 they were probably wondering why the protesters couldn't just eat cake...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #50 October 3, 2011 >WOW, sounds like a Conservative position The conservative position would be to give up, get on the Internet and blame Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
